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Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by LittleLambofJesus, Aug 30, 2011.

  1. LittleLambofJesus

    LittleLambofJesus Idealist Preterist and Amill since 2003 Supporter

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    Simply beautiful!
    I like the way this Bible version puts it:

    Bible Gateway passage: Colossians 2:2-4 - The Message

    Colossians 2:
    2-4 I want you woven into a tapestry of love, in touch with everything there is to know of God. Then you will have minds confident and at rest, focused on Christ, God’s great mystery.
     
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  2. razeontherock

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    Ok, so what does this have to do with the book of RevelatioN? (Singular: it is ONE revelation people! That OF Jesus Christ, to St John, the Disciple that Jesus loved, and also known as the theologian.) And how many other books promise a blessing to those who read it?
     
  3. LittleLambofJesus

    LittleLambofJesus Idealist Preterist and Amill since 2003 Supporter

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    Good post raze

    Revelation 1:3
    Happy/blessed the one reading/ana-ginwskwn <314> (5723) and the ones hearing the words of the Prophecy and keepings in it having been written,
    for the time nigh

    [Revelation 22:10]
     
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  4. razeontherock

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    Yup and it's big too!
     
  5. LittleLambofJesus

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    Yepper!
     
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  6. LittleLambofJesus

    LittleLambofJesus Idealist Preterist and Amill since 2003 Supporter

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    Jericho is also mentioned a few times in the NT, including the book of Hebrews, along with Messengers and trumpets.

    Joshua 6:4
    and seven priests do bear seven trumpets of the jubilee before the ark, and on the seventh day ye compass the City seven times,
    and the priests blow with the trumpets,

    Matt 24:31/Hebrews 11:30/Revelation 8:6]

    Hebrews 11:30
    by faith the walls of Jericho did fall, having been surrounded for seven days;

    Matthew 24:
    31 and He shall be sending His Messengers with a great trumpet sound........
    [Revelation 8:6]

    Revelation 8:6
    And the seven Messengers having the seven trumpets make ready themselves, that they should be trumpeting
    [Joshua 6:4/Matt 24:31]

    The Sound Of The Trumpet

    For if the Trumpet makes an uncertain sound, who will prepare for battle?
    (1 Corinthians 14:8).

    The Apostle Paul used the Roman military trumpet as a metaphor for spiritual battle. First-century historian Josephus wrote that the Roman army did nothing, except by trumpet signals. He listed three specific trumpet sounds, all of which can be devotionally applied.

    The first trumpet was a signal to prepare to depart. "Now when they are to go out of their camp, the trumpet gives a sound."(1) The Bible believer should be ready to depart swiftly for any field of conflict as ordered, always ready to fight the good fight of faith (1 Tim. 6:12; 2 Tim. 4:7).

    The second trumpet was a signal to form up: "Then do the trumpets sound again, to order them to get ready for the march."(1) At this stage, a believer should have on the whole armor of God. The Lord wants skilled warriors, lined up with others, who will do battle against the wiles of the Devil (Eph. 6:11).

    The third trumpet sound was the order to march: "Then do the trumpets give a sound a third time, that they are to go out."(1) Some have suggested that this is the equivalent of "the last trumpet" that Paul referred to in 1 Corinthians 15:52 concerning the Rapture of the church: Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed--in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed (1 Cor. 15:51-52).

    This trumpet may also point to the personal resolve of a believer to march out to serve Christ, to stand against all challenges to God's kingdom, and to be willing to endure hardships like a good soldier (2 Tim. 2:3).

    Josephus also noted that before the army marched out, the soldiers raised their right hands high and shouted in martial fury, "We are ready!" Are you?

    Miscellaneous:
    Read about the trumpet (shofar) and its use in The Holiday Of Rosh Hashanah.

    The shofar - trumpet - is usually made from a rams horn.

    Revelation 8 Commentary- Plagued by Trumpets

    The Roman Assault on Israel Began around the Feast of Trumpets Hence the Seven Trumpets of Revelation—Thus Began the Jewish War.

    In A.D. 66 while Judea was aflame in bloodshed, riot and revolt, Rome responded by sending the 12th legion in addition to thousands of auxiliaries from neighboring kingdoms. These troops, as if orchestrated by God, arrived in Jerusalem in the Jewish month of Tishri, a month that begins with the Feast of Trumpets. Called the Day of Judgment, it is on this day that trumpets sound the somber days of atonement and final judgment (Leviticus 23:24, Numbers 29:1). Thus began the Jewish War.3
    The A.D. 70 Doctrine View, Interpretation, Exposition and Commentary of Revelation 8: In Every Event that Fulfills the Seven Trumpets of Revelation an Audible Trumpet Sound Was Heard.

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  7. LittleLambofJesus

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    Double post.........
     
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  8. ForceofTime

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    Ok Little Lamb :wave:

    Three cheers for Nebuchadrezzar?

    Ezekiel 26:7 KJV For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will bring upon Tyrus Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, a king of kings, from the north, with horses, and with chariots, and with horsemen, and companies, and much people.
     
  9. LittleLambofJesus

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    Nice one....
     
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  10. razeontherock

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    Did you know that the operating mechanism of a trumpet, why it works, is still unknown? IOW, it's power and beauty reveals the Glory of God! (Gotta go practice)
     
  11. Thekla

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    :) reminds me of:

    And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 8:11
     
  12. LittleLambofJesus

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    In my condition, I would be lucky to make it even toot :sorry:

    "Now which end do I blow into?"

    [​IMG]
     
  13. ForceofTime

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    However, Nebuchadnezzar seems to have a different fate:

    Ezekiel 29:18-20 KJV
    (18) Son of man, Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon caused his army to serve a great service against Tyrus: every head was made bald, and every shoulder was peeled: yet had he no wages, nor his army, for Tyrus, for the service that he had served against it:
    (19) Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will give the land of Egypt unto Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon; and he shall take her multitude, and take her spoil, and take her prey; and it shall be the wages for his army.
    (20) I have given him the land of Egypt for his labour wherewith he served against it, because they wrought for me, saith the Lord GOD.
     
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    :).
     
  15. Sieben

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    The messages to the seven churches could be misunderstood if you don't understand some things though.
     
  16. LittleLambofJesus

    LittleLambofJesus Idealist Preterist and Amill since 2003 Supporter

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    A reference is also made to Egypt in Reve 11:8, which unlike Sodom/Gomorrah, was a country, not a city

    Matthew 2:15
    and He was there till the death of Herod, that it might be fulfilled that was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying, `Out of Egypt I did call My Son.'
    [Reve 11:8]

    Revelation 11:8
    and their dead-bodies upon the broadplace of the great City, which is being called spiritually Sodom and Egypt,
    where even/also the Lord of them was crucified.
     
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  17. LittleLambofJesus

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    What things have you understood from those messages to the 7 churches?
     
  18. tzadik

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    You mean this book of life?
     
  19. yeshuasavedme

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    I just noticed this thread and started reading. I am sure that you have already been corrected in that the Book of Life is in the OT and is referenced in the OT from the Book of Enoch, which is the first eschatology book written, and that was written before the flood, by Enoch the prophet, the seventh from Adam; and Revelation is the Revealing of the Son of Man whom Enoch saw in secret, hidden, with God, and who was God, and wrote of Him as to come and in whose name the elect would be saved/redeemed -those who choose to live the elect life, says Enoch.
    Enoch writes of the Book of Deeds, first, also:
    Judas' name was blotted out of the Book of Life, for Peter references Judas in Acts 1, and applies OT passages to him, which state that his name will be blotted out of the Book of Life and another appointed to fill his office.
     
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