Alcoholics and Addicts Discussion/Support Thread

[EdtheJesusfreak]

I'm never ever ever ever ever ever gonna try any drugs bigger or better than pot, no inhalants, X, any Coke products, or heroin.....and I know pot is a drug....but it doesn't kill and it works slower than those...

Eh? That's what I said. Like I said, you've probably heard everything there is to be said. Since we're inerantly attracted to evil (or sin), drugs and alchohol always look better than maybe thumbing through a Bible, ( however have you ever strayed off on a good rabbit trail?). I would bet the fruit on the tree of knowledge probably looked more tasty than the tree of life.

 

[TheMainException]

There are times when I want to scream vulgarities....some times no one gets it...other times...people do.....no matter how much I spit out words....the true torment is never released....I shall never say "woe is me" because to pity onesself is worthlessness....but I do say that harsh are those around me....who care not to withstand me......but I understand.....it is tough on me...to be tough on me...when I'm failing again and again...and LIKE what should be hated.....oh tis a fool you hear speaking surely

 

[greenonion]

There are times when I want to scream vulgarities....some times no one gets it...other times...people do.....no matter how much I spit out words....the true torment is never released....I shall never say "woe is me" because to pity onesself is worthlessness....but I do say that harsh are those around me....who care not to withstand me......but I understand.....it is tough on me...to be tough on me...when I'm failing again and again...and LIKE what should be hated.....oh tis a fool you hear speaking surely

I'm not sure if this is supposed to be a poem or just a collection of thoughts pieced together with odd punctuation.

Whatever it is, I hope you take to heart some of the things written in this thread. It should be obvious that we care about your spiritual and emotional well being, and some of us have been in similar places in our lives. I'm not sure if you posted here hoping for someone to justify your desire to smoke pot, or for support and encouragement to remain sober. Either way, thanks for sharing your story.

I hope you find the peace you need. It may sound trite, but you can find release from your inner turmoil, your love for evil (your words) and teenage angst in Jesus Christ. You just need to choose Him. God bless you.

 

[TheMainException]

I've chosen him all my life...I've been a good little girl all along....but where did it get me? Depression, anxiety, parents who fought because my dad drinks, a brother who tells me to go kill myself........great....great life......that's all past....and now....nothing....silence.....but not peace either........no...it wasn't meant to be a poem...but it could have been...I've always claimed that my thoughts were like a man with a hammer beating random things instead of a steady flowing stream like everyone else......I'm not like you....I feel cursed......are you cursed like me? You speak about choosing God like it's so easy...like it'll take away all my struggle....he never makes things easier, he never makes me joyous.....instead...I'm plagued with answers without questions, doubts and I know he loves me......but at this point....it doesn't mean the world......

 

[greenonion]

Actually, I may be like you. I have obsessive compulsive disorder and have for the past 17 years. My thoughts pound like a hammer too. I think things that I shouldn't, and have thoughts that plague me. I'd stay up at night convinced I was dying of some random disease and spend all day searching my skin for sores that weren't there.

So yeah, I know what it's like to be cursed. God isn't the cause of my curse and he's not the cause of yours either. Perhaps your inner turmoil is OCD too, or something psychological. Or it could be spiritual. Or just plain old teenage angst.

LAWise, perhaps we could understand you a little better if you share with us what you think it means to be a Christian. Tell us about your relationship with Christ. Because, contrary to what you wrote, He can bring you the peace you need.

I want to help you, sister. Or at least lend an ear because I've been there.

 

[TheMainException]

I can spout out the right answers...but I just don't get it.....Christian means "Christ like" or "little christ".....*sigh*....maybe I'm' just being a fool and putting the blinders over my own eyes.....what the FREAK is wrong with me? I guess what I need is prayer....cause I don't want Christ around somedays....how can I not want a loving God to be around me? Please....pray that I do the right thing and find the love I so desperately need....let that be your prayers for me? Oh please....cause once the emotion fades away....all I'll have left is a scoffing laughter.........

 

[greenonion]

****Lord, help me communicate effectively.****


You're a writer, I can tell that from your posts. Tell me everything you know about Jesus. Tell me about when you, LAWise, accepted Him as Your Savior- not just someone up in heaven, who died 2000 years ago on a cross. LAWise, do you know the Risen Christ- Our Lord, Savior, Friend, who lives within all believers- the Christ who took your broken life and gave you HIS?

 

[Harlan Norris]

Praise God, I have also been granted 7 mos of freedom by Gods grace. I want to go on record as saying that it would not have been possible without Gods help. I could slow down and even abstain for a while. But I would always drink,drug again. God has taken away my desire for it. Praise God!

 

[EdtheJesusfreak]

...I'm not like you....I feel cursed......are you cursed like me? You speak about choosing God like it's so easy...like it'll take away all my struggle....he never makes things easier, he never makes me joyous.....instead...I'm plagued with answers without questions, doubts and I know he loves me......but at this point....it doesn't mean the world......

Sometimes chossing God isn't easy. Sometimes life just happens and God lets it either for you to build faith in Him or to prepare you for future ministry. There's gonna be day, when you've percivered through this tumoil, and you're going to come up on the other end a stronger beliver .Then it will be easier to choose God. Believe me, it took 12 years, but it has become much easier. There were times before when I would yell at God "why do you let these things happen?" I found phrases for Him that couldn't be used in an R rated film. And I'd been a believer for several years. Perhaps, God simply wants you to believe in Him because YOU believe in Him rather than becuase people around you beleive in Him.

By the way, I'm not saying you don't believe, I'm merely suggesting that YOU might be figuring out what you believe... If that makes sense?

 

[ArmouredSaint]

could use a boot in the backside myself here.plans to enter a rehab but I just don't see it happening,I just don't care enough to put myself in,get out and do it all over again.makes little sense

 

[TheMainException]

Ed...thank you....it does make sense.

 

[amyjs]

I'm a little concerned that people are coming into this thread with testimonies and struggles and receiving no support or response... (which I also take responsibility for and do apologize)

Harlan Norris - Praise the Lord, you are truly a miracle. 7 mos sober is a huge accomplishment, and I love to hear people give God the thanks and credit.

ArmouredSaint - I have seen through your other posts that you are experiencing a tremoundous loss and pain in your life that most people cannot even begin to imagine or understand. And I can see how difficult it must be to think of taking care of and focusing on yourself right now. But there's got to be something inside of you that wants help, and in my experience I had to hold onto that, no matter how small it was, and let God worry about the rest. You don't need to think about what will happen when you get out, or the obstacles you will be facing in the future, because focusing on those things kept me sick for a lot longer than was necessary. Just take the first step, just think about walking through the door to where you decide to go and let God handle what happens from there. I know it's much easier said than done, and I will be praying for you to have the courage and faith to make that first step.

With Love,
Amy

 

[SOTK]

I'm a little concerned that people are coming into this thread with testimonies and struggles and receiving no support or response... (which I also take responsibility for and do apologize)

I agree, Amy. I apologize to all for not being around much the last few days. I was out of town on business.

 

[SOTK]

Praise God, I have also been granted 7 mos of freedom by Gods grace. I want to go on record as saying that it would not have been possible without Gods help. I could slow down and even abstain for a while. But I would always drink,drug again. God has taken away my desire for it. Praise God!

That's great, my friend!

Would you mind sharing with us how exactly God took away the desire (addiction)?

In Christ,

SOTK

 

[SOTK]

could use a boot in the backside myself here.plans to enter a rehab but I just don't see it happening,I just don't care enough to put myself in,get out and do it all over again.makes little sense

A rehab will only work if you want it to work. Quitting alcohol/drugs only occurs when you truly accept your identity in Christ and recognize the fact that you are already free from any sin or problem you may have.

Forgive me for being blunt, but you seem to be taking on a failure/sin identity. If you have this kind of identity, you will continue to keep a foot in the world. Keeping a foot in the world means failure, sin, continued drinking/drugging, etc. You are a Child of God, ArmouredSaint! You are a Saint! Believing in this truth can set you free!

 

[SOTK]

I can spout out the right answers...but I just don't get it.....Christian means "Christ like" or "little christ".....*sigh*....maybe I'm' just being a fool and putting the blinders over my own eyes.....what the FREAK is wrong with me? I guess what I need is prayer....cause I don't want Christ around somedays....how can I not want a loving God to be around me? Please....pray that I do the right thing and find the love I so desperately need....let that be your prayers for me? Oh please....cause once the emotion fades away....all I'll have left is a scoffing laughter.........

LAWise520,

In my opinion, what you need is to recognize and truly believe the truth that you are a Child of God! Many Christians do not believe this nor really recognize this Biblical truth.

Before becoming saved, we are all "Children of Wrath". That is to say that we are all born into sin from the womb and are totally depraved. We are dead spiritually and are drawn to darkness (Satan).

As fully regenerated Blood Bought Children of the King, we are spiritually alive and in Christ! Our "old sin nature" was crucified along with Christ on the Cross. When Christ crucified our "our old sin nature" and we accepted His most gracious and wonderful atoning blood, we became new creatures. We became Children of God! We became Saints!

See, most Christians hear stuff like this but do not fully take this in. For centuries and decades, Christians have been taught that we are sinners. This really isn't the case. We are Children of God and Saints who sin. This is a positional truth. Taking on a "I'm a sinner" identity or a "I am a piece of garbage alcoholic" idenity is not Biblical nor is it the Truth.

Can Children of God stumble? Yes. Is it possible for Children of God to sin? Yes. Are we sinners? No. If you were take a hard look at how Christians are referred to in the Bible, you would see that we are never referred to as sinners. That term is almost exclusively reserved for the lost.

Taking on a failure identity and sin identity as a Christian is wrong. It's no wonder that most Christians have such low opinions of themselves. They are not placing their identity in Christ!

Well, I hope what I have said makes sense to you. I can not emphasize enough to you the importance of your idenity in Christ. If you continue to identify with a fallen sin nature, you are not only wrong in doing so but will continue to fall. Not only that, but you keep crucifying Christ over and over and over again. Christ died once for you! You were reborn and became a Child of God once!

Place your identity in Him!

In Christ,

SOTK

 

[TheMainException]

thank you SOTK....means a lot to me....really does

 

[greenonion]

That was so awesome SOTK!!!

 

[greenonion]

AmouredSaint, I'm sorry to hear you are struggling. I agree with SOTK. You are not a substance abuser- you are a child of God who struggles with substance abuse!

Here is a book that I read that really deals well with identity in Christ- "Classic Christianity" by Bob George. It has really opened my eyes on what it truly means to have Christ within.

 

[SOTK]

thank you SOTK....means a lot to me....really does

You're welcome! I'm happy to help in anyway I can.