Adam was formed on the 3rd Day

[juvenissun]

Yes the eighth day took place 6,000 years ago. The age or era we live in began 7,000 years before that. When the glaciers melted and we see a time of extinction when 90% of the species went extinct. Of course explosions or radiations always follow extinctions.

The hunter gather use to collect seeds. They would throw the seeds in the mud in the spring. Esp in the delta areas where there was flooding. But real farming began 6,000 years ago. Some of the towns were built on what had been camping sites. The layers are usually distinct though.

So Adam is not a single person, but is a group of people. Right?
And the story of the forbidden tree is only allegorical.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Really??----somebody forgot to tell Cain and Abel--not to mention Adam and Eve who were vegetarian--at least until after the fall. They used the lambs Abel tended for sacrifice and probably ate some--but Cain was a farmer. Adam and Eve had quit a talented bunch of children and grandchildren.

(Gen 4:2) And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
(Gen 4:20) And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle.
(Gen 4:22) And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.
(Gen 4:21) And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.

Adam and Eve lived 6,000 years ago. There were clearly people around before Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.

 

[joshua 1 9]

So Adam is not a single person, but is a group of people. Right?
And the story of the forbidden tree is only allegorical.

Adam was a single person. We have his genealogy, Jesus was a descendant of Adam. Mostly they trace the genealogy today from Abraham. All the Hebrew people and all the Muslim people are said to be children of Abraham. The gentiles are adopted into the family and are not natural descendants as the people in the middle east are natural descendants of Abraham. The Children of Sarah are the natural children, the children of Hagar are the children of the flesh. That is why they fight as the spirit battles with the flesh.

I do not know what the forbidden tree was. They say it was an apple tree. The apple tree was produced when they grafted the branches of one tree into another tree. Apples are not product of natural selection as much as the product of artificial selection.

 

[juvenissun]

Adam and Eve lived 6,000 years ago. There were clearly people around before Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.

Your recognition is getting even stranger.
Were they a sort of ape-man?

 

[-57]

Yes the eighth day took place 6,000 years ago. The age or era we live in began 7,000 years before that. When the glaciers melted and we see a time of extinction when 90% of the species went extinct. Of course explosions or radiations always follow extinctions.

The hunter gather use to collect seeds. They would throw the seeds in the mud in the spring. Esp in the delta areas where there was flooding. But real farming began 6,000 years ago. Some of the towns were built on what had been camping sites. The layers are usually distinct though.

Problem being with your theory...it's all pre-flood. The world wide flood of Genesis 7 would have destroyed all the evidense you speak of.

 

[Aman777]

Yes, we have a lot of archaeology to show that man went from a hunter gather to a food producer. The dogs went from hunting dogs to shepherds. A lot of study has gone into what we call the neolithic revolution. Where farming began and how it spread to the world. It was a lot easier to catch an animal to eat for dinner when they were penned in.

Human Farming began SUDDENLY thus refuting the False Theory of Evolution which requires long gradual periods of time and magical positive mutations which can NEVER be repeated. You have confused hunter gatherers (prehistoric people) with Humans (descendants of Adam) who arrived on Planet Earth SUDDENLY, exactly where Human civilization began. Coincidence? Please explain. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

According to Max Planck: "Both Religion and science require a belief in God. For believers, God is in the beginning, and for physicists He is at the end of all considerations… To the former He is the foundation, to the latter, the crown of the edifice of every generalized world view".

The Bible goes to great length to talk about four rivers in Eden, so that would be further north.

Max Planck was a man but you seem to agree with him while rejecting God's Truth in Scripture. ALSO, the four rivers of Eden were NOT on Planet Earth since they would have to originate on top of mount Everest, split into four rivers, and water the whole face of the earth, which is ridiculous.

The ONLY river among the four coming out of the Garden, is the Euphrates, which is easily explained since Noah could have named the river on our Earth after the Euphrates river on Adam's Earth. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

Moses makes a distinction between the: "days of old" and the: "generations of long past". Genesis ch 2 talks about: "generations of the heavens and of the earth". This is about Eden around 6,000 years ago.

"Remember the days of old; consider the generations long past. Ask your fathers and he will tell you, your elders, and they will explain to you."Deu 32:7

When Moses says to ask your father and elders he is talking about the oral tradition that was not recorded.

There was NO 8th Day since God has but only 6 Creative Days/Ages and One festival Day, the 7th Day, which has NO evening, and NO end, since it's Eternity. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

Adam and Eve lived 6,000 years ago. There were clearly people around before Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.

Since Adam was made long before ANY other living creature on the 3rd Day Gen 2:4-7, there were NO people before him. Every other living creature that moveth was made on the 5th Day. Gen 1:21 Try again?

 

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parts snipped... ALSO, the four rivers of Eden were NOT on Planet Earth since they would have to originate on top of mount Everest, split into four rivers, and water the whole face of the earth, which is ridiculous.

You can't be serious?

 

[Aman777]

You can't be serious?

Serious as a heart attack. Amen?

 

[mmksparbud]

Adam and Eve lived 6,000 years ago. There were clearly people around before Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.

If you say so---so must it be.

 

[mmksparbud]

Since Adam was made long before ANY other living creature on the 3rd Day Gen 2:4-7, there were NO people before him. Every other living creature that moveth was made on the 5th Day. Gen 1:21 Try again?

You were asked on another thread to reconcile your statement that we are now in day 6 of creation week with the fact that Adam and Eve fell after the 7th day---which means we are not fallen yet and Jesus didn't have to die. So we must still be in the garden of Eden. Can you reconcile the 2 statements on either this thread of on the "Is God a liar thread?"

 

[joshua 1 9]

If you say so---so must it be.

Bishop Usher did a lot of research on the subject back in the early 1600's. There were a lot more books and resources that were available to him that are no longer available to us now. Although I have read the Bible at least five times and I have done a lot of the math myself. Enough to believe that I think Bishop Ussher's book is dependable. It really all comes down to the fact that he has very little to say about anything that happened before Adam & Eve, before 6,000 years ago. Because back in the early 1600's very little was know about anything on earth before that point in time. Even a lot of what we know about ancient Mesopotamia we have only learned in the last 100 years. At the time of Darwin we did not know nearly as much about the world we live in as we do not.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Since Adam was made long before ANY other living creature on the 3rd Day Gen 2:4-7, there were NO people before him. Every other living creature that moveth was made on the 5th Day. Gen 1:21 Try again?

I am NOT talking about the Adam in Chapter one. I am talking about the Adam in Chapter two of Genesis. The Adam that lived in the Garden of Eden with Eve and they had two sons together: Cain and Able. The Adam your talking about represents mankind. Although Science tells us that there was a common ancestor.

 

[joshua 1 9]

There was NO 8th Day since God has but only 6 Creative Days/Ages and One festival Day, the 7th Day, which has NO evening, and NO end, since it's Eternity. Amen?

So we are still living on the 7 th day? God is resting and not doing anything in the world? Are you a Diest?

 

[mmksparbud]

I don't base my theology on what man thinks he knows--I accept the bible version and wait for man to catch up with their science.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Problem being with your theory...it's all pre-flood. The world wide flood of Genesis 7 would have destroyed all the evidence you speak of.

Only Adam's world or his bio diverse ecology was destroyed. There is overwhelming evidence that there was NOT a world wide flood at the time of Moses. There was a world wide flood that began around 12,000 years ago and the water level is a lot higher. Even today the glaciers are still melting and the water level is rising and cites are flooding. This is different from the story we read about Noah though.

The thing about Noah's flood is that Noah's world was destroyed. God did not leave any evidence of it for us to examine today. Only what was on the Ark was preserved.

 

[joshua 1 9]

I don't base my theology on what man thinks he knows--I accept the bible version and wait for man to catch up with their science.

I accept the Bible just as I accept the natural evidence that God gives us in the natural world. He gives us the written word of God and we are able to see a lot of the work God has done when He created this universe that we live in. The Bible explains to us the fallen condition of Creation and the need this world has for restoration and redemption. That would be difficult to figure out without the Bible to explain it all to us.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Max Planck was a man but you seem to agree with him while rejecting God's Truth in Scripture.

Be careful what you accuse people of, you may very well be guilty of what you accuse others of. The Bible clearly teaches us not to judge others. Matthew 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. I have no way to know anything about you other then what you tell me. Only God can examine the heart of man.