Adam was formed on the 3rd Day

[Jason Sanders]

UnScriptural, as the following verses show:

4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

Adam's Earth was made the 3rd Day according to Gen 1:10

5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

The plants, herbs and trees GREW on the 3rd Day. Gen 1:12

7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

See? Man was made the 3rd Day. In order to be sure, read the next verses.

8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there He put the man whom He had formed. 9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every TREE that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Gen 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, (plants) and herb yielding seed after His kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after His kind: and God saw that it was good. Gen 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Amen?

If I may...

The second portion of your Scriptures comes from an entirely different chapter of Genesis than the first, and is also highly misleading. Yes, God created all the plants and trees and all things that are green on the third day, but that does not mean He created the Garden on the third day. The text you quote specifically says that God planted the Garden- a task which is rather difficult to do without plants to, you know. Plant. Admittedly this is God were talking about so He could have easily done it somehow, but your entire premise is based around this confusing interpretation of what amounts to an easy to understand verse.

 

[-57]

UnScriptural, as the following verses show:

4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

Adam's Earth was made the 3rd Day according to Gen 1:10

5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

The plants, herbs and trees GREW on the 3rd Day. Gen 1:12

7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

See? Man was made the 3rd Day. In order to be sure, read the next verses.

8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there He put the man whom He had formed. 9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every TREE that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Gen 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, (plants) and herb yielding seed after His kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after His kind: and God saw that it was good. Gen 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Amen?

There is a distinction between the "wild" plants and the plants to be cultivated in the garden. The plant argument fails.

 

[Aman777]

If I may...

The second portion of your Scriptures comes from an entirely different chapter of Genesis than the first, and is also highly misleading. Yes, God created all the plants and trees and all things that are green on the third day, but that does not mean He created the Garden on the third day.

UnScriptural, since Gen 2:8-9 show that the Garden was also made the 3rd Day as a place to put the man whom He had formed BEFORE the plants, herbs and Trees which also GREW on the 3rd Day. Gen 1:12

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Gen 2:8 ¶ And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there He put the man whom He had formed.

*** The text you quote specifically says that God planted the Garden- a task which is rather difficult to do without plants to, you know. Plant. Admittedly this is God were talking about so He could have easily done it somehow, but your entire premise is based around this confusing interpretation of what amounts to an easy to understand verse.

My view is confusing because you are following the Theology of ancient man who could NOT have known what Genesis was teaching. God hid His Truth in Genesis in order that ancient men could come to God ONLY by Faith. God's Truth can be understood literally ONLY by the people of the last days of this Earth. God told Daniel HOW He hid His Truth from ancient men:

Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Reading God's Truth in Genesis by a "plain reading" CANNOT reveal what God hid until the last days as the following clearly shows:

1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth NOT the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Reading Genesis 1 and 2 with a "plain reading" shows enormous contradictions as Godless men of all kinds have proclaimed. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

There is a distinction between the "wild" plants and the plants to be cultivated in the garden. The plant argument fails.

Since the plants in the Garden are NOT listed, one MUST "add to" what is actually written, in order to come to the conclusion you posted. Amen?

 

[-57]

Since the plants in the Garden are NOT listed, one MUST "add to" what is actually written, in order to come to the conclusion you posted. Amen?

I fail to understand your point. There is two trees named in the garden.....along with the fig tree.

 

[Aman777]

I fail to understand your point. There is two trees named in the garden.....along with the fig tree.

False, unless you can show us the Tree of Life and Tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Also, there is NO fig tree in Gen 2. You must be confused by an altered or paraphrased version of Scripture. That's WHY I use the KJV. Amen?

 

[-57]

False, unless you can show us the Tree of Life and Tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Also, there is NO fig tree in Gen 2. You must be confused by an altered or paraphrased version of Scripture. That's WHY I use the KJV. Amen?

Gen 3:7 mentions the fig leaves. Then again you should have know what i was talking about.

 

[Aman777]

Gen 3:7 mentions the fig leaves. Then again you should have know what i was talking about.

You're right since Genesis 2:9 says:

Gen 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree

EVERY tree includes the Olive Tree. Aman is sometimes wrong but Scripture is never wrong. Thanks for the correction. God Bless you

 

[ewq1938]

Not according to Genesis. A good example is the following verse:

Gen 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after His kind, (Jesus kind
Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God (YHWH/Jesus) formed every beast of the field,

That has nothing to do with "Jesus kind" but beasts being made after their own kind.

and cattle after Their kind,

(Trinity kind which were "created" from the Water on Day 5, Gen 1:21)

There is no such thing as Jesus kind and Trinity kind in scripture.

Jesus made the beasts of the field Gen 2:19
Jesus made the fowl or birds.. Gen 2:19
Jesus made the creeping thing..Gen 2:19
The Trinity (Trinity) made the cattle Gen 1:21

Nope. Jesus made everything, period.

With YOUR understanding please tell us WHY these verses agree with my view and NOT with your view.

You have only showed how unscriptural your theories are on this because you offered zero evidence other than your preconceived beliefs that you think supports it.

 

[Aman777]

That has nothing to do with "Jesus kind" but beasts being made after their own kind.

There is no such thing as Jesus kind and Trinity kind in scripture.

Nope. Jesus made everything, period.

You have only showed how unscriptural your theories are on this because you offered zero evidence other than your preconceived beliefs that you think supports it.

Sorry, but Jesus didn't make "every living creature that moveth" from the water with His own Hands as He did the beasts of the field and birds. Gen 2:19 God (Elohim-the Judges) created the living creatures that moveth.

Gen 1:21 And God (Elohim) created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after Their kind, and every winged fowl after His (Jesus/Lord God) kind: and God saw that it was good.

As part of the Trinity, Jesus the Son, helped to "create" every living creature, but not the same as the temporary creatures, which Jesus made with His own Hands. ONLY God (Trinity) creates and everything God creates is an Eternal Creation.

The best example of this is that Jesus (Lord God) made temporal man physically Gen 2:4-7 BUT man was NOT "created" in God's Image until AFTER Cain killed Abel. Gen 5:1-2

Gen 5:1 ¶ This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God (Elohim) created man, in the likeness of God made He him; Gen 5:2 Male and female created He them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

The above is when Adam and Eve were born again Spiritually. Below is when they were "formed" temporarily by Jesus (Lord God).

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God (YHWH/Jesus) formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.(being)

Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God (YHWH/Jesus) had taken from man, made He a woman, and brought her unto the man.

Another example is the difference between what God (Elohim) told Noah and what Jesus told him.

God (Trinity) told Noah:>>Gen 6:20 Of fowls after Their kind, and of cattle after Their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after His kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.

Jesus (Lord) told Noah:>>Gen 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.

Many men saw Lord God (Jesus) in the Old Testament BUT NO man has ever seen God (Elohim).

Jhn 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, He hath declared Him.

Amen?

 

[ewq1938]

This is all nonsense but I can tell it's a waste of time going through each point.

Sorry, but Jesus didn't make "every living creature that moveth" from the water with His own Hands as He did the beasts of the field and birds. Gen 2:19 God (Elohim-the Judges) created the living creatures that moveth.

Gen 1:21 And God (Elohim) created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after Their kind, and every winged fowl after His (Jesus/Lord God) kind: and God saw that it was good.

As part of the Trinity, Jesus the Son, helped to "create" every living creature, but not the same as the temporary creatures, which Jesus made with His own Hands. ONLY God (Trinity) creates and everything God creates is an Eternal Creation.

The best example of this is that Jesus (Lord God) made temporal man physically Gen 2:4-7 BUT man was NOT "created" in God's Image until AFTER Cain killed Abel. Gen 5:1-2

Gen 5:1 ¶ This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God (Elohim) created man, in the likeness of God made He him; Gen 5:2 Male and female created He them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

The above is when Adam and Eve were born again Spiritually. Below is when they were "formed" temporarily by Jesus (Lord God).

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God (YHWH/Jesus) formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.(being)

Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God (YHWH/Jesus) had taken from man, made He a woman, and brought her unto the man.

Another example is the difference between what God (Elohim) told Noah and what Jesus told him.

God (Trinity) told Noah:>>Gen 6:20 Of fowls after Their kind, and of cattle after Their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after His kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.

Jesus (Lord) told Noah:>>Gen 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.

Many men saw Lord God (Jesus) in the Old Testament BUT NO man has ever seen God (Elohim).

Jhn 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, He hath declared Him.

Amen?

 

[mmksparbud]

(Eph 3:9) And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
(Col 1:15) Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
(Col 1:16) For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
(Col 1:17) And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

 

[SkyWriting]

UnScriptural since darkness/death was upon the face of the deep in Gen 1:2. The verse you posted shows that death spread to ALL men when Adam sinned since man was the only creature made like Jesus in a eternal body. The reason death spread to all men was that Adam (mankind) was given a Free Choice to obey God or to disobey Him, and ALL have sinned. The LAW was not given unto ALL creatures but ONLY to creatures (man and angels) with the ability to Freely Choose to obey or not. Amen?

I don't see what your arguing against.
I said "BILLIONS of years" was not in scripture.
It's not.

 

[SkyWriting]

What does that have to do with time beginning when Adam sinned?
Just for the record there were 5 days of time prior to the formation of Adam from the dust on day 6.

On the record, you are correct. But science has a problem with 24 hour days or 1000 year "days".
also scripture does not usually restrict God's creation to "day" events because God has no use for 24 hour days.
That's a human thing. And there were no humans around to experience the sun passing overhead.
Also, the sun was not around for some of those creation "days."

All these problems are solved, because time and "days" as we know them now, did not begin until Adam sinned.

The only purpose of time is to delay our judgment. We deserved to be annihilated the moment Adam sinned.
But God interjected "time" so that our death would be delayed. Time is God's grace given to us despite our sins.

 

[-57]

On the record, you are correct. But science has a problem with 24 hour days or 1000 year "days".
also scripture does not usually restrict God's creation to "day" events because God has no use for 24 hour days.
That's a human thing. And there were no humans around to experience the sun passing overhead.
Also, the sun was not around for some of those creation "days."

All these problems are solved, because time and "days" as we know them now, did not begin until Adam sinned.

The only purpose of time is to delay our judgment. We deserved to be annihilated the moment Adam sinned.
But God interjected "time" so that our death would be delayed. Time is God's grace given to us despite our sins.

What you're saying will never preach. Days are mentioned in the bible...bracketed with morning and evening and assigned a number....BEFORE Adam and Eve were even created. There is no way you will convince a single person that there was no "day's" prior to Adams sinning.

 

[SkyWriting]

What you're saying will never preach. Days are mentioned in the bible...bracketed with morning and evening and assigned a number....BEFORE Adam and Eve were even created. There is no way you will convince a single person that there was no "day's" prior to Adams sinning.

Good. I would never preach that there were no days prior to Adams's Sin.

But the sun and the moon were created on "Day 4" so my point is that
your modern of reference may be at faulty if you are thinking Creation
week was just like the week you are used to in your current Sin condition.

(Oh, and plants were formed back on Day 3, so I'm not advocating for
millions of years where plants grew without sunlight either.)

 

[Aman777]

This is all nonsense but I can tell it's a waste of time going through each point.

Especially since you cannot show Scripture which supports your view. I'm sorry that Scripture goes against your religion. God Bless you

 

[Aman777]

(Eph 3:9) And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
(Col 1:15) Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
(Col 1:16) For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
(Col 1:17) And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

Amen. Jesus the only begotten Son, as part of the Trinity, created ALL things and He also created mankind AND the beasts of the field, birds, and creeping things with His Own Hands. Jesus IS Lord. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

I don't see what your arguing against.
I said "BILLIONS of years" was not in scripture.
It's not.

Amen and neither is the word Rapture. Scripture CANNOT be understood by a plain reading as the following verse shows:

1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth NOT the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

God tell us HOW to understand Scripture:

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

 

[-57]

Good. I would never preach that there were no days prior to Adams's Sin.

But the sun and the moon were created on "Day 4" so my point is that
your modern of reference may be at faulty if you are thinking Creation
week was just like the week you are used to in your current Sin condition.

(Oh, and plants were formed back on Day 3, so I'm not advocating for
millions of years where plants grew without sunlight either.)

Creation week? Right now I'm a fan of Russ Humphreys Starlight and time.