Adam by Creation or by Evolution?

[Anthony]

Elsewhere in CF the discussion of Adam is that he was the first man to recieve a soul. But He was not necessarily the only man to show up on the earth, that other men came during the evolutionary process.

Was Adam created as an orginal or from evolution?

If Adam was the product of evolution, and the first to recieve a "soul", what happen to the non-soul men and women that evoluted outside of Adam and Eve?

 

[PastorSherm]

Anthony, this is a good question..I just think it might be answered better on the theology board

 

[Anthony]

Adam, this is a good question..I just think it might be answered better on the theology board

I was wonder that the average Joe Christian thinks, looking what people believe, not so much a debate.

 

[PastorSherm]

I see...well I believe Adam was created then.

 

[Anthony]

I see...well I believe Adam was created then.

what do you believe about other men? did they come from Adam's seed or from other evoluted men?

 

[PastorSherm]

I believe they came from Adam's seed...that was one of the reasons for the very,very,very,very,very,very long life spans.

 

[abednego]

Pastorsherm is right about that, there werent any other men that just evoled- God created Adam!

 

[Vigil]

God Created all livings things according to their kinds. As this Adam then would be the first “Human” kind, resulting in the fact that he was a Created being with no parent before him.



God Bless

Vigil.

 

[Fatality]

Remember, that before that "breathe of life", Adams body was lifeless and dead. It was after Adams body recieved a spirit that he came to life.

 

[Anthony]

Problem: There are many Christians and Jews? who feel otherwise

 

[abednego]

Problem: There are many Christians and Jews? who feel otherwise

You mean who feel that there were others who just evoluted? What true christian would think that? is that what your saying?

 

[Lynn73]

I see...well I believe Adam was created then.

As do I, just as the Bible says. However, I have heard the theory of there being a pre-Adamic race but I don't know much about that. I do believe that anything or anyone that was ever here was created by God. For what reasons, I don't know and whether they had souls, I don't know. It's way beyond my knowledge, especially since I wasn't here.

 

[PastorSherm]

As do I, just as the Bible says. However, I have heard the theory of there being a pre-Adamic race but I don't know much about that. I do believe that anything or anyone that was ever here was created by God. For what reasons, I don't know and whether they had souls, I don't know. It's way beyond my knowledge, especially since I wasn't here.

Lynn, could you point out where in Genesis I could find the verse about the pre Adamic race? I'm not seeing it anywhere.

 

[gtsecc]

I have always believed in evolution.
I would imagine a huge percentage of Christians do also.
I have never found conflict in science or Christianity.

 

[Anthony]

Lynn, could you point out where in Genesis I could find the verse about the pre Adamic race? I'm not seeing it anywhere.

IF there were pre-adam men, did they have souls? Probably not, since Adam is the first man, per God's word. So what happen to all they guys walking around without a soul? Also how long did these guys stick around?

Where there soul-men and non soul-men?

 

[Anthony]

You mean who feel that there were others who just evoluted? What true christian would think that? is that what your saying?

Yes; there are lots of Christians who attempt to reconcile all the extra people that comes with the evolution price tag, with the one-man one-vote that comes with the Bible.

 

[PastorSherm]

I have always believed in evolution.
I would imagine a huge percentage of Christians do also.
I have never found conflict in science or Christianity.

I don't think a huge percentage of Christians do think that. Polls taken on the subject show otherwise. I am somewhat familiar with thiestic evolution. Thiestic Evolution tends to portray God as being very limited. It makes him seem to only be able to create life through a process that took hundreds of millions of years. Our God is the all powerful creator of the universe and everything in it. He could of just created everything in a second with only a thought. It seems to me people who believe in thiestic evolution, believe in a very limited not all powerful God..just my opinion.
What matters to me is a person's relationship with Jesus Christ...however to those who question the book of Genesis and believe it to be just a story..that can become very very dangerous. If you question that...then you could very well start questioning other things in the Bible. I believe in Creation in the Biblical sense, not creation through evolution. Is the six days a literal six days or not? That is not important to me. We humans are pesky little creations..we need to know the answers to everything. Me personally I don't need to know the hows of God's creation...I'm just happy being still and knowing that he is God.

 

[gtsecc]

Theistic Evolution does not limit God.
For example, he could make you levitate off of your chair right now.
Did you levitate?
Does that mean God cannot make you levitate?
No, he chooses not to do that.

 

[julian the apostate]

pastor sherm<<I don't think a huge percentage of Christians do think that. Polls taken on the subject show otherwise. I am somewhat familiar with thiestic evolution

most christians are quite comfortable with evolution


it is not a test of faith either way however, to make it so is a heresy

 

[Singing Bush]

What matters to me is a person's relationship with Jesus Christ...

And rightfully so, in my opinion, brother. Hopefully neither of us loose sight of this.

however to those who question the book of Genesis and believe it to be just a story..that can become very very dangerous. If you question that...then you could very well start questioning other things in the Bible.

Here I must disagree some. I imagine most TEs, myself included, theoretically interpret scripture in many of the same ways you theoretically do. We don't question the veracity of the Bible, just what kind of truth it is supposed to be providing us w/. Not all truths must be factual scientifically or historically to be truths spiritually.