Christ death and resurrection is the basis for the gospel and what constitutes the atonement. If Christ atonement is not supposed to save anyone then the gospel is false.
BTW- this is a typical misconception of arminians.
BTW, I'm neither ARM or CALV.
Yep. And God knows exactly who will have faith.
This isn't the debate. Of course He knows. And this response completely dodges my point, that Scripture's requirement for salvation, justification and adoption as sons is faith, not His death.
Of course, now you are going to attempt to explain to me what foreknowledge means.
Don't you know? I don't feel any urge to explain what I believe you do or should already know.
Then more study is in order.
Why would "more study" lead to being comfortable with a contradiction?
Is baptism required for salvation? Oops, now you are adding to faith which above you said it was the only requirement for salvation.
If one only reads the WHOLE verse, one realizes that faith is the issue for salvation, not faith and baptism.
Yep. Unfortunately these are not believers. Keep reading the parable of the seed and you will arrive to those whose seed landed in good soil which is those with saving faith.
The point of Luke 8:12 is that IF they had believed, they would be saved. Your blatant dodge of the clear meaning of the verse is telling.
Yes. And those who God knows will have faith will listen to His word and be saved. Perseverance of the saints.
Where do you get any of this from Acts 11:14???
Yes. And those who God knows will have faith will listen to His word and be saved. Perseverance of the saints.
Where do you get any of this from Acts 16:31 ???? The answer to the jailer's question of what he
MUST DO to be saved is to believe.
So now you believe in lordship salvation? Are you adding again to faith?
Your continuing to dodge the obvious meaning and words of Scripture is telling and explains a lot. I don't believe in LS and I haven't added to faith.
Who are those who will believe? Does God know who they are?
What relevance does either question have to Rom 1:16? None. The clear point is that one is saved by faith, not by Christ's death, which you're dodging.
Yep. Faith IS a gift of God. Faith is not a gift of man.
Nope. The gift refers back to being saved, which is affirmed in Rom 6:23. Your 2nd statement is totally irrelevant and meaningless.
Yep. Does everyone that read scripture get the wisdom to be saved?
The clear point of 2 Tim 3:15 is salvation through faith. And no, only those who accept that wisdom.
lol Protected by the power of God? Right? Soooooo...……
The point of 1 Pet 1:5 is "through faith for salvation", which you've repeatedly dodged.
That's right. 1 Pet 1:9 says the outcome of our faith is salvation. Glad you finally seem to accept the reality of faith being the requirement for salvation.
God has chosen? Am I reading this right? Does the verse say that God chose you or that you chose God?
The real question is HOW God chose the Thessalonians for salvation. Please read the WHOLE verse. "through belief in the truth". That's the requirement for salvation.
"For justification"….
Every single one of these verse do NOT make sense if Christ atonement is not sufficient for salvation. [/QUOTE]
Apparently you've completely misunderstood all 11 verses that base justification on faith, not on Christ's death.
I cut a few of the verses that you posted because of redundancy. Many of these verses teach exactly the opposite of what you are teaching.
Actually they teach exactly what they all SAY, which you've continued to dodge.
All the verses I posted SAY that salvation, justification and adoption as sons is by faith. Not by Christ's death.