Abortion

[rulabelle]

Me and my friend were talking about our views on abortion and even though both of us were against it my friend said if she became pregnant in her situation now (student) she would have an abortion. I argued with her as i just don't get if you are so against something why would you do it. I mean I'm not judging anyone who has has an abortion but for me I just couldn't, I know many people have their different reason for having an abortion.

I just wondered what people thought about my friend's attitude of being against it but she would still have one surely they conflict with each other?

 

[Apollo Celestio]

Hypocrite. Sorry, but that just rings hypocrite. Kind of the opposite of my sister, pro-choice, but would never get one herself.

 

[alfrodull]

Hypocrite. Sorry, but that just rings hypocrite. Kind of the opposite of my sister, pro-choice, but would never get one herself.

I agree that the situation in the OP is hypocritical. But I don't think your sister is, at least if she feels that way because of separation of church and state.

 

[SonicBOOM]

Me and my friend were talking about our views on abortion and even though both of us were against it my friend said if she became pregnant in her situation now (student) she would have an abortion. I argued with her as i just don't get if you are so against something why would you do it. I mean I'm not judging anyone who has has an abortion but for me I just couldn't, I know many people have their different reason for having an abortion.

I just wondered what people thought about my friend's attitude of being against it but she would still have one surely they conflict with each other?

abortion is complex in the sense that the act is almost always varied when it comes to the reasons. The motives of WHY we have an abortion I think define wether it's right or wrong.

Lets say you go out and have a one night stand, your partner [or you] ends up pregnent the next month:

scene 1: you fluff up your shoulders, get an abortion and move onto to your next sex partner [this is WRONG]

scene 2: you are in deep guilt and regret! you feel horrable that you are bringing another life into the world who you can not support because of your selfish acts. You would take care of the child but you have no money, you would put the child up for adoption.... but how long would it take for the child to get adopted? How horrable and abondaned will she/he feel without any real parents who love them? So you decide on the 3rd act. get an abortion. This will prevent the baby from suffering a life of poverity and abandonment because of something you did wrong. So you abort the baby and take a vow to never carelessly have sex again. [I beleive this is right]

I fear I went off on a tangent though. I think your freind is being hypocritically highly. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. Well unless they think that theyare above and beyond their own convictions of what other people should do.

 

[Qyöt27]

Hypocrite. Sorry, but that just rings hypocrite. Kind of the opposite of my sister, pro-choice, but would never get one herself.

That second part isn't hypocritical. Just because you support the option doesn't mean you desire or would take that route. I support the second amendment but I'd never think of owning a firearm. It's not like everything someone supports is something they have a personal stake in. Particularly something like abortion - it involves more issues than just 'woman A wants to terminate her pregnancy'. The boundaries of doctor/patient privacy rights and many other issues not immediately related to the act itself are to be considered, and people can very well base their opinions on those parts than on the actual procedure and its ramifications. This applies to many things, not just the abortion debate.

 

[Tragic Paradox]

Me and my friend were talking about our views on abortion and even though both of us were against it my friend said if she became pregnant in her situation now (student) she would have an abortion. I argued with her as i just don't get if you are so against something why would you do it. I mean I'm not judging anyone who has has an abortion but for me I just couldn't, I know many people have their different reason for having an abortion.

I just wondered what people thought about my friend's attitude of being against it but she would still have one surely they conflict with each other?

I think your friend is trying play both sides of the field. She should make up her mind. You're either for it or against it. If you're against abortion but you would have one yourself....well....that doesn't make any sense at all.

 

[Sketcher]

I just wondered what people thought about my friend's attitude of being against it but she would still have one surely they conflict with each other?

Hypocritical.

 

[Apollo Celestio]

I didn't actually say my sister was a hypocrite. But why wouldn't they.. hmm

 

[progressivegal]

I guess she was just being honest. It does seem kind of hypocritical that she's against it for everyone except for herself. It sounds like she hasn't really thought it through that much, maybe she hasn't tried to put herself in anyone else's shoes? As a pro-choice person I find her conclusion kind of frustrating too. Abortion is a difficult issue and if that's the place she's in right now concerning it then that's the place she's in. I don't understand it, but I don't really have to I guess.

 

[Weasel7711]

abortion is complex in the sense that the act is almost always varied when it comes to the reasons. The motives of WHY we have an abortion I think define wether it's right or wrong.

Lets say you go out and have a one night stand, your partner [or you] ends up pregnent the next month:

scene 1: you fluff up your shoulders, get an abortion and move onto to your next sex partner [this is WRONG]

scene 2: you are in deep guilt and regret! you feel horrable that you are bringing another life into the world who you can not support because of your selfish acts. You would take care of the child but you have no money, you would put the child up for adoption.... but how long would it take for the child to get adopted? How horrable and abondaned will she/he feel without any real parents who love them? So you decide on the 3rd act. get an abortion. This will prevent the baby from suffering a life of poverity and abandonment because of something you did wrong. So you abort the baby and take a vow to never carelessly have sex again. [I beleive this is right]

I fear I went off on a tangent though. I think your freind is being hypocritically highly. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. Well unless they think that theyare above and beyond their own convictions of what other people should do.

so murder is fine as long as you don't put yourself in the same situation afterwards

and to the OP yes its hypocritical

 

[SonicBOOM]

so murder is fine as long as you don't put yourself in the same situation afterwards

your missing the point. If you don't have the resources it takes to take care of a child than it's a gift to the child to end it's life early. Ecc says that it's better to die stillborn than to live a life of misery. i know Solomon was cynical when he said this, but still he makes a good point. Now I understand Christains beleive in eternal souls and stuff like that, most of us also beleive that a baby gets into heaven if it dies before it's innecence is broken. How can you not see that it's a gift to the child to end it's life early if you lack the means to give the child a place to call home? In a sense your giving the child back to God.

 

[Gods4me]

I just want to say that abotion i think is something that you cant agree with or dissagree with untill you have been in it.
i think untill you are in the situation of being a pregnant student you have no idea of what will go through your head.
ive been it that situation and i have aways said i dissagree with abortion but when i got pregnant i will be honest and say that i thought about it.

i dont think any one can have an opinion untill they have been in the situation.

 

[SonicBOOM]

I just want to say that abotion i think is something that you cant agree with or dissagree with untill you have been in it.
i think untill you are in the situation of being a pregnant student you have no idea of what will go through your head.
ive been it that situation and i have aways said i dissagree with abortion but when i got pregnant i will be honest and say that i thought about it.

i dont think any one can have an opinion untill they have been in the situation.

see I agree... it's one of those deep and tragic situations that is much to sensitive for white and black thinking. Before we go telling someone that aborition is wrong, we should be wrapping our arms around them because it's horrable to be going through! [EDIT: I cut off the last sentance]

 

[rulabelle]

see I agree... it's one of those deep and tragic situations that is much to sensitive for white and black thinking. Before we go telling someone that aborition is wrong, we should be wrapping our arms around them because it's horrable to be going through! I beleive what I beleive because my sister got knocked-up twice! She decided to keep both the kids.... but I would've understood completely if she would've got an aborition.

I agree we should be supporting the person before we judge and say abortion is wrong. If that is what they choose then you can't push your view on them. And no matter whether or not you agree with what they want to do you need to support them through it.

 

[Medz]

I am pro life

 

[cakes&buttercream]

Me and my friend were talking about our views on abortion and even though both of us were against it my friend said if she became pregnant in her situation now (student) she would have an abortion. I argued with her as i just don't get if you are so against something why would you do it. I mean I'm not judging anyone who has has an abortion but for me I just couldn't, I know many people have their different reason for having an abortion.

I just wondered what people thought about my friend's attitude of being against it but she would still have one surely they conflict with each other?

Ok, it may be a little hypocritical.
But think about this:

I am against abortion. However, if I was raped, I would have an abortion-due to the situation that the child was conceived. I would never have a criminals child, that would remind me constantly day from day of the crime that was committed against me.
So does that make me a hypocrite? NO. I don't think it does. Maybe your friend has the same type of thinking?

 

[Trashionista]

I agree that the situation in the OP is hypocritical. But I don't think your sister is, at least if she feels that way because of separation of church and state.

I agree completely.

 

[Sketcher]

your missing the point. If you don't have the resources it takes to take care of a child than it's a gift to the child to end it's life early. Ecc says that it's better to die stillborn than to live a life of misery. i know Solomon was cynical when he said this, but still he makes a good point. Now I understand Christains beleive in eternal souls and stuff like that, most of us also beleive that a baby gets into heaven if it dies before it's innecence is broken. How can you not see that it's a gift to the child to end it's life early if you lack the means to give the child a place to call home? In a sense your giving the child back to God.

Since when is the child guaranteed to be miserable? There are many happy people out there who are adopted children. There are many loving Christian couples that are willing to adopt. Furthermore, if God wants that child back early, He will take him or her back. It's called a miscarriage, and that happens quite often.

 

[underthesouthercross]

i really dont agree with it...but when your 13 years old and you have a baby now thats a real problem....but i guess you shouldnt get yourself in the position..in the first place anyway

 

[SonicBOOM]

Furthermore, if God wants that child back early, He will take him or her back. It's called a miscarriage, and that happens quite often.

you know thats a really good point. I haven't considered that. Now that I think about it, my neice and newfew weren't conceived from an all-american family. Yet... I wouldn't trade my neice and newfew for the world. I know I said I wouldn't blame my sister for getting an aborition... but to be honest I highly respect her for sticking it out and raising these kids. She is a very strong woman because of it... and I love my neice and newfew to no end... and so does she.

I know I made the impression that I support it.... but to be honest I just have a hard time finding a conclusion because of the sensitivity of the sucject in general.