Abortion.

[GasTank]

http://www.godandscience.org/abortion/sld001.html

Check this slide out. Abortion is against God, and is a sin.

 

[TheBellman]

http://www.godandscience.org/abortion/sld001.html

Check this slide out. Abortion is against God, and is a sin.

Maybe. Impossible to evidence and irrelevant when talking about laws.

 

[nvxplorer]

http://www.godandscience.org/abortion/sld001.html

Check this slide out. Abortion is against God, and is a sin.

I've gone through 29 of the 49 slides, and I have yet to see anything related to God or sin. Perhaps you would direct us to the appropriate slide?

 

[GasTank]

Well these slides show that an abortion is killing a human. God did command thou shalt not kill. So it would seem abortion is against God and is a sin....................cause it is!

 

[GasTank]

How about finishing the last 20.

 

[TheBellman]

Well these slides show that an abortion is killing a human. God did command thou shalt not kill. So it would seem abortion is against God and is a sin....................cause it is!

Once again...maybe. But irrelevant to the laws of a nation that's not a theocracy.

 

[flicka]

I haven't looked at any of the slides because I've seen too many sensationalized photos to last a lifetime. But unless they show the little blob that came out of me at 8 weeks they don't relate to the majority of abortions anyway. If they show a late term abortion of a viable fetus (something you can't know from a slide show) then I wouldn't want to look anyway since I don't support that.

In any case, it has nothing to do at all with being a sin or what God wants since I believe in neither.

 

[.Mikha'el.]

http://www.godandscience.org/abortion/sld001.html

Check this slide out. Abortion is against God, and is a sin.

I think you might have been better off posting this in CP&E, not E&M. The problem with this forum is that you words will be meaningless to those who are not Christians.

 

[GasTank]

CP&M? Whats that?

 

[GasTank]

In any case, it has nothing to do at all with being a sin or what God wants since I believe in neither.

You don't believe in sin?

What if I murder some one in cold blood, for no reason at all? Is that sin? And if it is a sin, who am I sinning against? The person? perhaps. But who said I can't murder some one in cold blood for no reason at all? the person? perhaps. But who gave that person the right to make the law for my life? What if my law says it is ok to murder some one in cold blood for no reason.

See where I'm going?

There are things that are wrong in this world. Whether you want to see it or not.

Even if the government had no laws against murder, murder is still a sin. Why? Cause there is a Rule Maker (God) who said that murder is wrong.

If your the god of your own universe and I'm the god of my own universe, and every one else is there own god, then whose to say that the murderers and theifs and rapers are bad, when they to are following their own rules that they've made? See God made rules for this world, and man does not want to follow those rules. Sooooooo man now tries to make his own rules and shut God out, but he will find that God's rules are what he needs.

 

[TheBellman]

You don't believe in sin?

What if I murder some one in cold blood, for no reason at all? Is that sin? And if it is a sin, who am I sinning against? The person? perhaps. But who said I can't murder some one in cold blood for no reason at all? the person? perhaps. But who gave that person the right to make the law for my life? What if my law says it is ok to murder some one in cold blood for no reason.

See where I'm going?

There are things that are wrong in this world. Whether you want to see it or not.

Even if the government had no laws against murder, murder is still a sin. Why? Cause there is a Rule Maker (God) who said that murder is wrong.

If your the god of your own universe and I'm the god of my own universe, and every one else is there own god, then whose to say that the murderers and theifs and rapers are bad, when they to are following their own rules that they've made? See God made rules for this world, and man does not want to follow those rules. Sooooooo man now tries to make his own rules and shut God out, but he will find that God's rules are what he needs.

That's all very nice for someone who believes in a god...but many of us don't. We can get by quite nicely without any rules claimed to have been set by any god.

 

[GasTank]

Then those laws that we know we must keep even if the government doesn't say we have too, who made those?

Like murder? We know that is wrong whether the government says it is or not, murder is wrong. But a murderer doesn't think so. Whose to say he isn't right?

But he is.


So who made those rules that stand no matter what the government says?

 

[TheBellman]

Then those laws that we know we must keep even if the government doesn't say we have too, who made those?

Like murder? We know that is wrong whether the government says it is or not, murder is wrong. But a murderer doesn't think so. Whose to say he isn't right?

But he is.


So who made those rules that stand no matter what the government says?

I'm not interested in what the murderer thinks. I don't care if you think murder is wrong, or I think it's wrong, or whatever. It's illegal; that's all that matters.

In short, there are no rules that stand no matter what the government says. There aren't now, and there shouldn't be.

 

[GasTank]

I'm not interested in what the murderer thinks. I don't care if you think murder is wrong, or I think it's wrong, or whatever. It's illegal; that's all that matters.

In short, there are no rules that stand no matter what the government says. There aren't now, and there shouldn't be.

So if the law says it IS ok to murder, then you too would think it is ok?

 

[The Nihilist]

So if the law says it IS ok to murder, then you too would think it is ok?

I would totally murder if it were legal. But then, I think living in society would be pretty rough for everyone. Good thing we invented government and laws to prevent all that.
There, now you understand ethics.

 

[Asimov]

Well these slides show that an abortion is killing a human. God did command thou shalt not kill. So it would seem abortion is against God and is a sin....................cause it is!

So when God commands thou shalt not kill and then commands people to kill is he not contradicting himself?

 

[nvxplorer]

Well these slides show that an abortion is killing a human. God did command thou shalt not kill. So it would seem abortion is against God and is a sin....................cause it is!

God also commands that certain sins be punished by death. It appears "Thou shalt not kill" is ambiguous.

 

[nvxplorer]

You don't believe in sin?

What if I murder some one in cold blood, for no reason at all? Is that sin? And if it is a sin, who am I sinning against? The person? perhaps. But who said I can't murder some one in cold blood for no reason at all? the person? perhaps. But who gave that person the right to make the law for my life? What if my law says it is ok to murder some one in cold blood for no reason.

See where I'm going?

There are things that are wrong in this world. Whether you want to see it or not.

Even if the government had no laws against murder, murder is still a sin. Why? Cause there is a Rule Maker (God) who said that murder is wrong.

If your the god of your own universe and I'm the god of my own universe, and every one else is there own god, then whose to say that the murderers and theifs and rapers are bad, when they to are following their own rules that they've made? See God made rules for this world, and man does not want to follow those rules. Sooooooo man now tries to make his own rules and shut God out, but he will find that God's rules are what he needs.

The law doesn't make certain actions "good" and others "evil." The law makes no moral judgement. The law doesn't claim that murder is a sin. It doesn't state that murderers go to hell. It states simply and explicitly that, "if you are found guilty of murder, you will pay a penalty." That's it.

Laws are designed to protect rights and provide for an orderly society. They are not intended to pass moral judgement.

 

[Myah]

Abortion has (IMHO) become more of a political issue than an religious one. The majority of people are looking at it more as a women's right to make decisions about her own body against allowing the government to make those decisions for her.

As for myself, I'm pro-choice. However, I don't approve of abortion as a method of birth control, I'd approve because of medical conditions, or rape or incest. I support adoption. But the matter of hell or sin has nothing to do with my considerations. It's a societal issue now, and not as much of a religious one.

 

[MJ421]

Well these slides show that an abortion is killing a human. God did command thou shalt not kill. So it would seem abortion is against God and is a sin....................cause it is!

Not much thinking to your arguement, huh.