Abortion

[Mallory Knox]

Originally posted by LouisBooth
"Even the nine-year-old girl who was raped by her grandfather? Yeah what a selfish woman."
So you think 2 wrongs make a right or being young is an excuse for murder?

I think that that nine year old girl is more important than the fetus living inside her. I don't think that fetus is a baby and I don't think killing it is murder. I think this is a case where exceptions can be made. And frankly if you really want to know what I think, I think you are messed up in the head to deny that girl an abortion. I think you're an anti-abortion freak who stopped really thinking about abortion a long time ago when he decided abortion-is-murder and now he can't see past that black and white assesment.

What if it was your daughter? Your baby? Who your father RAPED? You would force her to carry that baby as long as she could? I think not. Do you have children?

 

[LouisBooth]

"I don't think that fetus is a baby and I don't think killing it is murder. "

By this answer I assume you're not a christian and hence your morals are different then mine.

"I think you're an anti-abortion freak who stopped really thinking about abortion a long time ago when he decided abortion-is-murder and now he can't see past that black and white assesment. "

Well in terms of black and white you're right, there is only right and wrong. See your bible for more info.

"You would force her to carry that baby as long as she could? I think not"

I'd cross that bridge when I come to it thanks

 

[Mallory Knox]

Originally posted by LouisBooth

I'd cross that bridge when I come to it thanks

So without hesitation you declare that girl should not be allowed an abortion, but if it were your own daughter, well, you'll cross that bridge when you come to it?

 

[LouisBooth]

"So without hesitation you declare that girl should not be allowed an abortion, but if it were your own daughter, well, you'll cross that bridge when you come to it?"

Did I say that? I haven't had to directly deal with the issue. For now, yes, I'd say that abortion is not an option. There might be other medical procedures that can be done. Again, you aren't a christian so your morals will not line up with mine.

 

[Godsgurl4ever2006]

IT IS WRONG UNDER ALL CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE PEOPLE SHOULDN'T GET THEMSELVES INTO THAT POSITION WITHOUT BEING WILLING TO PAY THE CONSIQENCES. IN A PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION THE DOCTOR BRINGS THE BABY OUT ASIDE FROM THE HEAD AND THE CUTS THE HEAD OFF. IN A REGULAR ONE THE DOCTOR REACHES IN WITH A CLAMP AND GRABS A PART OF THE BABY AND RIPS IT OFF AND DOES THIS UNTIL ALL OF THE BABY HAS BEEN RIPPED OUT ASIDE FROM THE HEAD THEN HE REACHES IN AGAIN AND GRABS A HOLD OF THE HEAD AND SMASHES IT. HOW COULD THIS BE FAIR? WHEN A WOMAN IS PREGNANT AND WANTS THE BABY SHE CALLS THE BABY A BABY NOT A FETUS BUT IF SHE DOESN'T WANT IT, THE BABY IS JUST A FETUS. WHATS THE DIFFERENCE?????

 

[Valerie412]

Originally posted by Godsgurl4ever2006
IN A PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION THE DOCTOR BRINGS THE BABY OUT ASIDE FROM THE HEAD AND THE CUTS THE HEAD OFF.

Actually, scissors are pushed into the head, open so as to open the orifice and the brains sucked out!!!

No ACLU, tree-hugging, animal rights person would ever stand for such to occur to a rat, but it's okay if it happens to a baby.

 

[Mallory Knox]

Originally posted by Godsgurl4ever2006
IT IS WRONG UNDER ALL CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE PEOPLE SHOULDN'T GET THEMSELVES INTO THAT POSITION WITHOUT BEING WILLING TO PAY THE CONSIQENCES. IN A PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION THE DOCTOR BRINGS THE BABY OUT ASIDE FROM THE HEAD AND THE CUTS THE HEAD OFF. IN A REGULAR ONE THE DOCTOR REACHES IN WITH A CLAMP AND GRABS A PART OF THE BABY AND RIPS IT OFF AND DOES THIS UNTIL ALL OF THE BABY HAS BEEN RIPPED OUT ASIDE FROM THE HEAD THEN HE REACHES IN AGAIN AND GRABS A HOLD OF THE HEAD AND SMASHES IT. HOW COULD THIS BE FAIR? WHEN A WOMAN IS PREGNANT AND WANTS THE BABY SHE CALLS THE BABY A BABY NOT A FETUS BUT IF SHE DOESN'T WANT IT, THE BABY IS JUST A FETUS. WHATS THE DIFFERENCE?????

I know what abortion is.

Did you even bother to read anything anyone posted in this thread? No one's saying convenience abortion is okay!

If you were walking home one day and you got brutally raped and found out you were pregnant, you would not have an abortion?

 

[Godsgurl4ever2006]

no i would not i would pray that God would save the soul of the wicked man who committed that horrible crime

 

[Mallory Knox]

Originally posted by Godsgurl4ever2006
no i would not i would pray that God would save the soul of the wicked man who committed that horrible crime

And you would not have an abortion? What if they told you you would never survive childbirth?

 

[Godsgurl4ever2006]

I would pray and have the knowlege that i would soon be meeting the one person who has never left my side.

 

[Mallory Knox]

Originally posted by Godsgurl4ever2006
I would pray and have the knowlege that i would soon be meeting the one person who has never left my side.

Alright, good for you.

 

[eldermike]

Values have no meaning when they are not used for anything, What use are convictions if they can be changed by circumstances?.

Christian values: Others before self; willing to lay down my life for others; servant is the highest position in life.

Abortion values: me first; my life; my choice; me, me, me.

There is no common ground on this issue. This is a values clash of the highest level.

 

[GTX]

Originally posted by GTX
You bet Mallory! That is why we need God. It won't always be like this.

Originally posted by a girl who like Vin Diesel[i/]
I wish I could think like you do.

[hunky Vin Diesel voice] You could if you let me study with you, it wouldn't change your free thought pattern at all, just prompt you to consider the possibility. There is such a thing as a reformed Atheist turned liberal Christian that can live a very happy and fulfilling life!

Would some one who resembles Vin Diesel steer you wrong?
[/hunky Vin Diesel voice]

 

[Mallory Knox]

Originally posted by GTX




[hunky Vin Diesel voice] You could if you let me study with you, it wouldn't change your free thought pattern at all, just prompt you to consider the possibility. There is such a thing as a reformed Atheist turned liberal Christian that can live a very happy and fulfilling life!

Would some one who resembles Vin Diesel steer you wrong?
[/hunky Vin Diesel voice]

*drool*

Okay you just converted me. I'll do whatever you say.

 

[MyJhongFist]

Originally posted by GTX


I was with the never crowd until this popped up, Mallory, in this case I would not deny abortion, the girl is just a child herself. In extreme cases abortion could be justified.

But it also goes to show the gross immorality present in the world.

Speaking as a human being that was born out of the rape of a 13 year old girl:

I am very glad that my mother and the people who supported her used logic to clearly see that there is a HUGE difference between the beast that committed the crime and the baby that was consequently produced (me). I was placed up for adoption as soon as I was born.

I grew up with fantastic adoptive parents. Much more than would have happened if I had been considered nothing more than a bad dream to be eliminated. Thankfully my birth mother (she and i are on good terms now) was more concerned with the life of another than her own.

 

[Mallory Knox]

Originally posted by MyJhongFist


Speaking as a human being that was born out of the rape of a 13 year old girl:

I am very glad that my mother and the people who supported her used logic to clearly see that there is a HUGE difference between the beast that committed the crime and the baby that was consequently produced (me). I was placed up for adoption as soon as I was born.

I grew up with fantastic adoptive parents. Much more than would have happened if I had been considered nothing more than a bad dream to be eliminated. Thankfully my birth mother (she and i are on good terms now) was more concerned with the life of another than her own.

Whoa. I'm not arguing with you.

 

[stillsmallvoice]

Hi all!

Mallory, thank's for the compliment (on post #105).

Neither Exodus nor Deuteronomy says: "Thou Shalt Not Kill." That is a real groaner of a mistranslation. The original Hebrew is "Lo tirtzach" which means "Thou Shalt Not Murder." Big difference!

Be well!

ssv

 

[MyJhongFist]

Originally posted by Godsgurl4ever2006
IT IS WRONG UNDER ALL CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE PEOPLE SHOULDN'T GET THEMSELVES INTO THAT POSITION WITHOUT BEING WILLING TO PAY THE CONSIQENCES.

((playing devil's advocate, although I agreee on most of your points))

In the case of rape, women do not put themselves in that position. They have it cast upon them, unwillingly.

 

[Mallory Knox]

Originally posted by MyJhongFist


((playing devil's advocate, although I agreee on most of your points))

In the case of rape, women do not put themselves in that position. They have it cast upon them, unwillingly.

Don't mind her. She just read the title of the thread and came in and started screaming. She does that in all my threads. She's obsessed with me I think. I tried telling her I'm straight but she doesn't believe me. I'm getting a little scared.

 

[MyJhongFist]

Originally posted by Mallory Knox


Whoa. I'm not arguing with you.

You and me are cool. I was just choosing my time to jump into this discussion, and figured that everyone should know where I am coming from.

BTW, Mallory:

I love your quote. Pulp Fiction is one of my top five favorite movies ever.