Abortion Poll

[Ave Maria]

Abortion is murder, PERIOD! It doesn't matter if it is done within the first 8 weeks or the last 3, it is always murder!

 

[chipmunk]

I chose "only if the mothers life is in danger," but I should have chosen "other." I feel that there are extraneous circumstances involved at times and until we walk in another's shoes we shouldn't be making blanket laws that will effect the rest of their lives. As a general, but certainly not complete rule, I feel that abortions are understandable when saving the life of the mother, when removing a child that can't survive (i.e. anacephalic children), and in cases of rape and incest.

I do beleive that God had a purpose for this person too, but he chose to be a rapist instead. So now that he chose to be a rapist instead of fufilling God's purpose in his life.....I will have him exicuted for rape. My hypothetical policy will punish him in the fullest for what he has done to this hypothetical woman. my hypothetical policy will make sure that he never does this to anyone again. Not only that, but he will not ever harm or try to get custody of of this baby. (remember...This is America and stranger things have happened...lol)

Yes...when it comes to children, I am very Pro-Life. However, when it comes to criminal activity (Like rape and Murder), I lean towards a just punishment like exicution.

Execution is NOT a just punishment for rape. Rapists CAN be rehabilitated. No, not all of them, but enough that a blanket law like that is NOT "just punishment." And certainly the victim should have some say in the matter. Having been a rape victim I am glad you had no say in my rapist's fate. And I know a few other rape victims that feel the same. Some of us get to see our rapists change their lives and become wonderful people. They have as much right to repent of their wrongs as anyone else does. Now, incarceration for those that aren't rehabilitating is fine with me.

I also do not think men should have an opinion on what a woman does with her body!

I have always found this to be a most odd position to take. I think it comes from women wanting to have their cake and eat it too. Women hold ALL the cards where children are concerned. They get to choose whether the child will be born or aborted. They get to sign away their rights through adoption if they don't want it. They can keep the child and if the father isn't in the picture they often times recieve payments from fathers who didn't have a choice. Men can only sign away their rights if the woman agrees to it and most unwed mothers are NOT going to do that. If men want the child and the woman wants to abort --there is nothing they can do.

Now, I don't think men should have a say in what happens to the woman's body, but I would suggest that we make it easier for men to sign away their rights. If women can choose not to take responsibility of the childs life either through abortion or adoption the SAME choice should extend to the other parent. A man should be allowed to sign away his rights and not have to pay child support for a child he didn't want--However, that better mean he doesn't come sniffing around for visitations either.

 

[MaddiesDad]

Should a womans life be endangered then I could accept abortion.

 

[betterthenyou]

Abortion is murder, PERIOD! It doesn't matter if it is done within the first 8 weeks or the last 3, it is always murder!

What is wrong with you?!?!? IT CANT BE MURDER! if you break a rock in two is it murder? no because its NOT ALIVE. You cant "kill" an unbord child because its NOT ALIVE.

 

[lisah6395]

I voted for only if the mother would die.

 

[lisah6395]

What is wrong with you?!?!? IT CANT BE MURDER! if you break a rock in two is it murder? no because its NOT ALIVE. You cant "kill" an unbord child because its NOT ALIVE.

Have you ever felt life growing inside of you? No, I don't think so, cause you are a guy. At 6 weeks of pregancy I saw my childs heart beat on a sonagram screen, at 12 weeks I heard both my girls heart beats, at 17 weeks I could feel movement. That is life, that is being alive, separate from me. Sure there are dependency issues, but the baby is alive from conception.

 

[chipmunk]

What is wrong with you?!?!? IT CANT BE MURDER! if you break a rock in two is it murder? no because its NOT ALIVE. You cant "kill" an unbord child because its NOT ALIVE.

Actually, an unborn child IS alive. If you want to be VERY technical the sperm and eggs are alive even before conception. They are forms of haploid life. Haploid life being something that lives even with half the genetic coding of the species. They create waste, they move in response to stimuli, and they require nutrition, they multiply themselves (eggs stop doing this before sperm), they exhibit all qualities of life. When they come together they do not die, but rather form diploid life (which is what you and I, and everyone else is). Abortion kills this life. If the unborn child was NOT alive they are miscarried and there are various procedures such as a Dilation & Curettage (or D&C) which make sure the woman is fine by clearing away the remains of the unborn child/children.

 

[GothicGwen]

Woman’s body, woman’s choice. When viability becomes an issue then the state can step in and only allow abortions for the mother’s health, life, or to terminate a malformed fetus that has severe birth defects. So actually my view is what the abortion laws reflect now.

 

[CCGirl]

What business does the state have in telling a woman what to do with their bodies?

 

[loriersea]

Abortion is murder, PERIOD! It doesn't matter if it is done within the first 8 weeks or the last 3, it is always murder!

Actually, abortion is never murder. Murder is not the crime of taking a life; it is the crime of killing a person with malice aforethought. Abortion fulfills neither part of that (and both parts are necessary). A fetus is indeed alive, but it is not a person, by any rational definition of personhood, until the development of the brain at the very earliest. Under the law, it is definitely not considered a person, and so abortion cannot be considered to be legally murder. And, women don't have abortions with malice aforethought. Women have abortions for many reasons, but I don't think malice towards the fetus is ever one of them.

 

[CCGirl]

Just wondering....


If a fetus is a person, why are they not counted in the census? *

Why, when people are pregnant, do they not say "we have 3 children", instead of "we have 2 children and 1 on the way?" *
George Carlin*

 

[Exhausted]

Actually, abortion is never murder. Murder is not the crime of taking a life; it is the crime of killing a person with malice aforethought. Abortion fulfills neither part of that (and both parts are necessary). A fetus is indeed alive, but it is not a person, by any rational definition of personhood, until the development of the brain at the very earliest. Under the law, it is definitely not considered a person, and so abortion cannot be considered to be legally murder. And, women don't have abortions with malice aforethought. Women have abortions for many reasons, but I don't think malice towards the fetus is ever one of them.

I just had an image of an angry pregnant woman punching herself in the gut shoot through my head.

 

[Spudgrandma]

You can parse the word murder anyway you want but abortion still takes anothers life.

 

[Exhausted]

You can parse the word murder anyway you want but abortion still takes anothers life.

Except for the part where you're totally wrong.

If the mother waits until the fetus is developed, then it's considered alive, and abortion will only occur in medical emergencies. However, a young, undeveloped fetus is nothing more than a lump of cells, like an arm, or kidney, and so is removable without consequence.

 

[Spudgrandma]

Except for the part where you're totally wrong.

If the mother waits until the fetus is developed, then it's considered alive, and abortion will only occur in medical emergencies. However, a young, undeveloped fetus is nothing more than a lump of cells, like an arm, or kidney, and so is removable without consequence.

Everything has consequences and I'm pretty sure if you have an arm or kidney removed you would see the consequences. Abortion to has consequences at any stage in the babies development.

 

[Exhausted]

Everything has consequences and I'm pretty sure if you have an arm or kidney removed you would see the consequences. Abortion to has consequences at any stage in the babies development.

Yeah, infection, etc, so?

 

[justcallmejamie]

Abortion should be mandatory and retro active.

funny.


i am against abortion always its never okay, if a mom get raped its not the childs fault and she needs to realize that.

 

[loriersea]

Just wondering....


If a fetus is a person, why are they not counted in the census? *

Why, when people are pregnant, do they not say "we have 3 children", instead of "we have 2 children and 1 on the way?" *
George Carlin*

And, if a fetus is indeed a person, why don't we give social security numbers out at conception? Why don't we have "conception certificates" instead of "birth certificates"? If a child is conceived in the United States by parents on vacation here, but born in the parents' home country, why don't we consider it a U.S. citizen?

If the death of a fetus is potentially a murder, why don't we investigate miscarriages for any potential criminal intent behind them? If a child dies, there is at least a cursory investigation, by either the doctor or the police, to determine the cause of death. Why don't we do the same for fetuses, if they are indeed persons?

 

[butterfoot]

Your poll is skewed. I voted abortion is murder but I also think that if every step has been taken to save the mothers life and nothing is working then the fetus should be taken out of the mother. However I do beleive that life saving measures should be performed on the baby to try and save its life as well. An emergency c section would probably be the best thing to try and save the mother and child.


-cw

 

[GothicGwen]

funny.


i am against abortion always its never okay, if a mom get raped its not the childs fault and she needs to realize that.

If a woman gets raped it’s not her fault either so what exactly is accomplished by torturing her to carry a pregnancy spawned by a monster who violated her basic rights? As far as I’m concerned, people who’d deny abortions to rape victims are telling a woman her basic rights still don’t matter as much as her rapist’s right to use her body for whatever he deems fit.



If I were to get pregnant after a rape, I’d get an abortion without question. If I couldn’t get an abortion, I’d take a flying leap off of a bridge and the fault for it would lie squarely on the shoulders of those people who told me I couldn’t get an abortion. They chose to end my life and the “life of the innocent baby”.