Abortion Poll

[Kroger99]

Murder is always wrong.

I agree

 

[Prince Lucianus]

Well, when will this thread fade away, immediately followed by another which will appear as the previous one, only with a different title.

Lucy

 

[Archivist]

I didn't say that women still don't die in childbirth, I said there is no scenario where killing the baby would save the mother...

That might have been what you intended to say, but that is not what you said in your post. Your exact words were "and as far as the mother's life being at stake...there is almost no scenerio where that is even a possibility in this day and age."

 

[larose]

The morning after pill works before the egg has properly implanted in the womb, so there is only a collection of cells, I have no problem with removing them.

Not true - it can kill once the embryo has implanted,
thus it's acting as an abortafacient. This collection
of cells is a human being!


chris

 

[larose]

...the idea that the instant a sperm wiggles it's way into
an egg a being with full human rights is created is just insane IMO.

At the moment of conception (egg+sperm), there is human
life with a mortal soul loved by God always.


chris

 

[larose]

Well, when will this thread fade away, immediately followed by another which will appear as the previous one, only with a different title. Lucy

As long as the Culture of Death is promoted, followers of
Christ will defend the Sanctity of Life. Your country pushes
Death as if it were more precious than Life.


chris

 

[larose]

You cant use the word murder when talking about abortion as...Murder:The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice... abortion is perfectly legal in most of the civilized world.

It is murder according to God's laws.


chris

 

[larose]

I would never presume to impose my own beliefs on others, they can not make that choice for themselves.

What about God's commandments? Or doesn't
He count?

I also do not think men should have an opinion on what a woman does with her body!

The baby is not her body.
Isn't the baby as much his as hers?


chris

 

[Archivist]

It is murder according to God's laws.

Actually, murder is a Common Law crime that is now largely governed by statute. It has no exact equal in the Bible.

 

[Archivist]

What about God's commandments? Or doesn't He count?

But this is not a Christian nation. We don't have the right to impose our views on others.

The baby is not her body. Isn't the baby as much his as hers?

The fetus is in her body, not his. She is the one who will have to go through weight gain, morning sickness, stretch marks, a possible c-section and the pain of childbirth, not him. She is the one who could die in childbirth, not him.

 

[CCGirl]

As long as the Culture of Death is promoted, followers of
Christ will defend the Sanctity of Life. Your country pushes
Death as if it were more precious than Life.


chris

Really? This coming from a country that executes the retarded and youth and ranks up there in human rights with Iran, Vietnam and China? Eek Good company for the biggest murderers! God Bless America

the US is THE biggest culture of death on the planet right now

 

[bumblebee62331]

This is always going to be a complicated one. I think my definite answer would have to depend totally on the circumstances. I am against abortion if the person is only having it because they are not ready for a baby, or to use abortion as a type of contraception.

However, if there was a huge risk that the mother would die if she attempted to carry the baby to term, or if there was a risk the baby would die, I would have to say that I would consider abortion. I have been talking with my boyfriend about this - if he had to choose between an unborn baby or me, what would he choose? - and he said me. It would be a difficult decision, because when I myself answered that same question, I said I would choose the baby.

I guess I will never be able to know just exactly how I feel about abortion until - God forbid - I am in a situation where it is needed. I just pray that never happens.

 

[Diane_Windsor]

Other-abortion is between the woman and God Almighty.

Diane

 

[Niemand3D]

This miracle of life is just taken for granted far too much. The majority of abortions are of convienence today (at least in the U.S.). The life that is ended is a crime to our humanity. I know there's no one steadfast absolute that works for every situation, but the conveinence of ending a child's life is horrible, imho. From what I've read 1.5 million abortions occur each year in the U.S. How this compares to inhumane acts of society far exceeds the worse. So many lives ended prematurely voluntarily. By all means, save the mother; by all means the choice ends at the mother; by all means, let's not promote this choice by reserving our choice to allow the unborn children to die.

Miracles happen everyday and they've gone unnoticed. God's mercy is indeed abundant.

Psalm 139:13-16: For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb. I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well. My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them."

 

[humblemuslim]

What is murder? (I know for certain the people collectively here don't agree on a single notion)
Is morality dependent upon geography or dependence upon another?
Why even mention option 5? It is a repeat of the Ex-Utero option....


I chose other -
Abortion is morally permissible only if the mother’s life is in danger, the baby will not be able to live a purposeful life, or a pregnancy is induced by rape.

 

[jamesMarion]

Until it takes it first breath out side the womb, it is not a human being. God creates life and gives it life in it's first breath. Abortion is not murder. The idea that a man and a woman can create life (in my humble opinion) is the HEIGHT of human arrogance. Thank you for asking.

 

[loriersea]

I said other. I think abortion should be legal, but that there should be restrictions at some point between the end of the first trimester and viability. By the end of the first trimester, the fetus ceases to be an undifferentiated mass of cells and has all of the major human parts present in some form, no matter how primitive. At that point, I think we can say that it would be acceptable to limit abortion unless there were extenuating circumstances (the life of the mother in danger, likely-to-be fatal fetal abnormalities, or other circumstances of that nature).

 

[loriersea]

I have been talking with my boyfriend about this - if he had to choose between an unborn baby or me, what would he choose? - and he said me. It would be a difficult decision, because when I myself answered that same question, I said I would choose the baby.

When I was pregnant with my son, who is my first child, I felt the same way as you. However, now that I have him, if I had to make that choice, I'd choose me. I could not leave my son without a mother in order to save what I can only consider a potential person.

 

[WaterGoddess]

I wish I had read the poll a little better, since I would have chosen "other" if I had seen it.

I'm pro-choice for two reasons. First and most importantly, a person's medical care is their own business. I might disagree with what they want to do, but it's none of my business. Unless it's my abortion or the abortion of my minor child, it's none of my business. The second reason I'm pro-choice is because I've never heard a valid or logical argument to support the anti-abortion position. And I've heard them all. I can respect the degree of conviction people have in their arguments against abortion, but not the argument itself.

 

[betterthenyou]

[font=&quot]One thing an object must have to be called "living" is the ability to survive independently. Meaning if you take the unborn baby out of the dependency of its mother will it grow? The answer is no. Thus it’s not alive and as such can not be murdered.[/font]