Abortion is MURDER!!!!!

[Phinehas2]

Lux et Lex,

Does this excite you? Because it sure seems like it does.

I suspect there are things that you passionately see as total injustice as well.

 

[lux et lex]

Lux et Lex,
I suspect there are things that you passionately see as total injustice as well.

I wasn't referring to you or abortion with that quote.

 

[Joeygum]

then what were you referring to?

 

[lux et lex]

The MILLIONS of murders of the unborn is one of the reasons God is soon going to pour out His wrath on this evil world. Count on it!

This seeming like some sort of excited blood lust with regard to the wrath of God.

 

[Joeygum]

no its anger and frusteration at how evil people are

How someone could kill an innocent baby and call it abortion? Don't you see how evil this is

and we who know Christ are angry for we see this evil world, and were here trying to bring faith back to the world, and here other people are killing children

btw a pro choice christian is not a christian at all

For how can you support murder and be a man of God

Away with you false prophet, for God will certainly remember you if you do not repent

 

[lux et lex]

no its anger and frusteration at how evil people are

How someone could kill an innocent baby and call it abortion? Don't you see how evil this is

and we who know Christ are angry for we see this evil world, and were here trying to bring faith back to the world, and here other people are killing children

btw a pro choice christian is not a christian at all

For how can you support murder and be a man of God

Away with you false prophet, for God will certainly remember you if you do not repent

haha. By no means do I represent myself as a prophet, but thanks for the extra street cred. Also, not a man of God, but a woman of God. And I can be pro choice and Christian. Life is about choices. If it weren't God would give us no choices and we'd be predestined to live out our lives as drones. I don't support murder, I support safe, legal abortion as an option to women who may be in need of it.

 

[LyraJean]

no its anger and frusteration at how evil people are

How someone could kill an innocent baby and call it abortion? Don't you see how evil this is

and we who know Christ are angry for we see this evil world, and were here trying to bring faith back to the world, and here other people are killing children

btw a pro choice christian is not a christian at all

For how can you support murder and be a man of God

Away with you false prophet, for God will certainly remember you if you do not repent

I'm pro-choice anti-abortion. Are you saying I am not a Christian because I am. I do not think you can say I am not a Christian when I say I am.

I do not support murder. I support women who have to make difficult choices. So away with yourself mister all high and mighty. Go grow up a bit before you start preaching to others.

 

[Joeygum]

Life is about choices and making mistakes but murdering children is not just a mistake its a lot bigger than that

safe legal abortion? hmm I wonder how the child being killed feels about that, yes mommy its perfectly safe if you kill me

Define what you mean by women who are in need of it? I have already stated abortion is only ok if the mothers life is in danger

Otherwise what do you mean they need to kill their children? I can get you countless stories of heroic women who have decided not to kill their children, and instead they either gave it to someone who could take care of it, or if they could raised the child

I am saying you are not a Christian if you willingly kill children, which is abortion

However if a murderer goes and slaughters my family, and I say it's ok because my family didn't have enough money to live anyway, am I a Christian? Of course not

Same here, how can you have the spirit of Christ, yet support the massive killing of innocent babies

 

[Duckybill]

This seeming like some sort of excited blood lust with regard to the wrath of God.

Call it what you like. It's Biblical.

 

[lux et lex]

Go grow up a bit before you start preaching to others.

QFT

 

[Phinehas2]

Lux et Lex,

This seeming like some sort of excited blood lust with regard to the wrath of God.

Well then it would be like abortion in that respect, but God is God, believe His word and purposes or not its up to you.

 

[Phinehas2]

LyraJean,

I'm pro-choice anti-abortion. Are you saying I am not a Christian because I am. I do not think you can say I am not a Christian when I say I am.

The question to you was how can you support God and murder life in the womb. The crusaders called themselves Christian, if you are saying just because you claim something as a Christian it must therefore be a Christian view then Joeygum might equally ask you why with his opposite view you are implying he isn’t a Christian.

No, the issue is, if abortion is murder then pro-choice is supporting murder, if it isn’t then pro-choice may be ok, but as its an act that is a choice, I wouldn’t take the risk.

The Pentachuch law addresses abortion already following a transgression, the heart of God is found in His gift of creation for man and woman to multiply (Gen 2, Matt 19, Mark 10, Eph 5) and that He knows people in the womb and even before they are conceived (Jermiah & Psalm 139) There is no Biblical testimony to perform an abortion.
So personally I would say looking at the evidence its clear, pro-choice abortion is murder by ignoring and rejecting God’s word.
But I would also question why its legal in the UK up to 24 weeks when its illegal in most other European counties after 12 weeks. Are the European pro-choice people ignorant or is the UK murdering life?


Just one other thing.

I support women who have to make difficult choices.

So do I, and the first and most important one is, are they prepared to take responsibility for the sex lives?

 

[Duckybill]

So do I, and the first and most important one is, are they prepared to take responsibility for the sex lives?

They don't have to be prepared. The abortion mills will take care of them and their unborn. They don't have to be responsible or merciful.

 

[Phinehas2]

Yeas I know Duckbill but the comment was the women have difficult choices, they dont in that respect but in accepting the consequences without the abortion mills.

 

[kiwimac]

And you know this because you are a woman?

 

[Phinehas2]

kiwimac,

And you know this because you are a woman?

God knows the hearts and minds of all people, and the purposes, Of course that means men and women, unlike you and I.

 

[LyraJean]

Life is about choices and making mistakes but murdering children is not just a mistake its a lot bigger than that

safe legal abortion? hmm I wonder how the child being killed feels about that, yes mommy its perfectly safe if you kill me

Define what you mean by women who are in need of it? I have already stated abortion is only ok if the mothers life is in danger

Otherwise what do you mean they need to kill their children? I can get you countless stories of heroic women who have decided not to kill their children, and instead they either gave it to someone who could take care of it, or if they could raised the child

I am saying you are not a Christian if you willingly kill children, which is abortion

However if a murderer goes and slaughters my family, and I say it's ok because my family didn't have enough money to live anyway, am I a Christian? Of course not

Same here, how can you have the spirit of Christ, yet support the massive killing of innocent babies

And what if the abortion wasn't decided by the pregnant woman/teenager? I have a friend who had no choice in the matter it was decided for her.

 

[LyraJean]

LyraJean,
The question to you was how can you support God and murder life in the womb. The crusaders called themselves Christian, if you are saying just because you claim something as a Christian it must therefore be a Christian view then Joeygum might equally ask you why with his opposite view you are implying he isn’t a Christian.

No, the issue is, if abortion is murder then pro-choice is supporting murder, if it isn’t then pro-choice may be ok, but as its an act that is a choice, I wouldn’t take the risk.

The Pentachuch law addresses abortion already following a transgression, the heart of God is found in His gift of creation for man and woman to multiply (Gen 2, Matt 19, Mark 10, Eph 5) and that He knows people in the womb and even before they are conceived (Jermiah & Psalm 139) There is no Biblical testimony to perform an abortion.
So personally I would say looking at the evidence its clear, pro-choice abortion is murder by ignoring and rejecting God’s word.
But I would also question why its legal in the UK up to 24 weeks when its illegal in most other European counties after 12 weeks. Are the European pro-choice people ignorant or is the UK murdering life?


Just one other thing.
So do I, and the first and most important one is, are they prepared to take responsibility for the sex lives?

You are leaving out rape victims and those who do take birth control but their form of contraceptive either failed or just doesn't work.

My sister-in-law who is happily married was given birth control which doesn't even work. She was given it so that she could still have sex with her husband but not worry about getting pregnant. They didn't want to get pregnant again because they both carry Cystic Fibrosis so pretty much every child they have will have it. Well, she got pregnant again and yes she had the baby. But if she decided to not have it I would not hold it against her.

Both of her children have Cystic Fibrosis and are constantly in and out of the hospital.

 

[Phinehas2]

LyraJean,

You are leaving out rape victims and those who do take birth control but their form of contraceptive either failed or just doesn't work.

Not at all, the former is not a choice so not part of pro-choice, and the latter is part of the responsibility, if contraception fails, it fails and conception is the consequence. I think a life created is more important than someone’s sex life, if people aren’t prepared to take the risk don’t have sex.

Both of her children have Cystic Fibrosis and are constantly in and out of the hospital.

And God loves them. But nonetheless they are still lives, would aborting them have been right?

 

[Duckybill]

And what if the abortion wasn't decided by the pregnant woman/teenager?

By whom then? Do we kill the unborn who did nothing wrong?