Abortion is MURDER!!!!!

[brightmorningstar]

kiwimac,
Thats exactly what one can do. Jeremiah was a person, God formed him in the womb and knew him unborn. God knew the psalmist and Job and others. If God knew all these people in the womb one can use that as a scriptural reason.
So where does it say in scripture one can abort the unborn through choice?

 

[kiwimac]

As it is you and others asserting abortion to be murder the onus is on you to prove it such. It is not. Thankfully I live in a country that deals with abortion in a civilised manner believing it to be between the family and their medical practitioner.

 

[arj1981]

As it is you and others asserting abortion to be murder the onus is on you to prove it such. It is not. Thankfully I live in a country that deals with abortion in a civilised manner believing it to be between the family and their medical practitioner.

Yea, if it were deemed murder it would be a punishable crime. Women would go to jail and whatnot. Second that. If we used this argument then war, killing bugs, slaughtering animals, executions, pulling the plug, etc would all be punishable offenses as well and we know that's not the case. So we can't just brand one kind of killing "murder" purely for sentimental value without any legal claim or representation. That's making this out be a law which in fact doesn't exist at all.

 

[brightmorningstar]

kiwimac,

As it is you and others asserting abortion to be murder the onus is on you to prove it such. It is not. Thankfully I live in a country that deals with abortion in a civilised manner believing it to be between the family and their medical practitioner.

If you don’t want to debate, don’t bother posting. If you are interested in debate my point again was. The point I am making shows your abortion laws do not reflect a civilised country but a barbaric one.
Thats exactly what one can do. Jeremiah was a person, God formed him in the womb and knew him unborn. God knew the psalmist and Job and others. If God knew all these people in the womb one can use that as a scriptural reason.
So where does it say in scripture one can abort the unborn through choice?

 

[kiwimac]

Nope, I'm afraid yours is the barbaric one. The system in use in NZ is a balanced one but one which respects the decision which is made rather than yours were everyone in creation feels free to attack, disparage or simply legislate out of existence the rights of women.

 

[brightmorningstar]

kiwimac,

Nope, I'm afraid yours is the barbaric one.

No yours is the barbaric one. But dont be afriad, perfect love casts out fear.
Jeremiah was a person, God formed him in the womb and knew him unborn. God knew the psalmist and Job and others. If God knew all these people in the womb one can use that as a scriptural reason.
So where does it say in scripture one can abort the unborn through choice?

 

[zairsmith]

Nope, I'm afraid yours is the barbaric one. The system in use in NZ is a balanced one but one which respects the decision which is made rather than yours were everyone in creation feels free to attack, disparage or simply legislate out of existence the rights of women.

Let's say your right, that God desires man to use this method of population control...All will be ok with God that believe in Christ Jesus. Also, those who are not ok with God will not be accountable for this action.

On the contrary, let's say God is furious at this concept and does not accept it...people who partake in it will have to answer for it as it would be in opposition to God....
As, Christians we will be held more accountable for this than non Christians because everything we do is supposed to be done for Christ or with Christ in mind.

Now put aside all the opinions of rights of the baby, right of the woman, forget who we may believe to be wrong....

Based on the two choices above which would you choose: to live a life hoping God is an advocate for abortion or to live life acknowledging that you are not sure how God feels about this matter and in reverence of God refrain from participating in this concept?

 

[Ave Maria]

Yes, abortion is murder. There is no getting around that. And it does not matter what the circumstances are either, abortion is always murder. It does not matter if the abortion was done to save a mother's life, it is still murder. The ends do not justify the means.

 

[Incariol]

Yes, abortion is murder. There is no getting around that. And it does not matter what the circumstances are either, abortion is always murder. It does not matter if the abortion was done to save a mother's life, it is still murder. The ends do not justify the means.

Actually, yes there is getting around it. The legal code says you are wrong.

 

[brightmorningstar]

Actually, yes there is getting around it. The legal code says you are wrong.

The legal codes I am thinking of, both God's and human, both say she is right.

Is it a case of my legal codes are bigger than your legal codes?

 

[Incariol]

The legal codes I am thinking of, both God's and human, both say she is right.

Is it a case of my legal codes are bigger than your legal codes?

I couldn't care less, I was speaking from the viewpoint of the United States.

 

[cordellia]

The legal code says you are wrong

The laws are always changing, but God's Word stands forever.

 

[Aeneas]

The laws are always changing, but God's Word stands forever.

Um, you realize you just resurrected a thread that was dead for about four months, right?

 

[brightmorningstar]

I couldn't care less, I was speaking from the viewpoint of the United States.

And as can be seen I wasn't.

 

[FreeinChrist]

MOD HAT


This thread as had a small clean up. If your post is missing, it is because it was either a rule violation or responding to a thread that was.

Stay on topic, no flaming.

 

[SayaOtonashi]

mi beten from the womb. Life starts from the womb. eshamah hayyah means Breath of life. It means you take a breath.

Also would anyone want someone to die? In brazil I 8 year old was rape and was 4 months pregnancy with twins. you was only 80 pounds. her bones wouldn't mature. would you let the girl die?

 

[SayaOtonashi]

Spontaneous Abortions: Depending upon which data you believe, fifty to seventy-five percent of all pregnancies spontaneously abort. Most impregnated eggs never attach to the uterine wall. They flow out of the woman's body with her menstrual flow.


Then miscarriages are a sin because this is called a Spontaneous Abortion. It's the truth. Then all abortions including miscarriages are a sin. 75 percent of pregnancy are miscarriages. That means we are already sinning.