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Abbott asserts Texas's right to self-defense amid border surge

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I haven’t seen those reports. Can you link some?
Numerous articles and statements have been made by agents and officials in news reports and were quoted in the suits themselves.
 
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Doesn’t look like Texas is complying
 
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I don't believe that we will have a Civil War that would be similar to the war America had in the 1860s.

True. It would be more like the Civil War of 2020: lighting cities on fire like Minneapolis, attacking govt buildings, overthrowing the police, tearing down monuments, taking over portions of cities, like Seattle.



 
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Numerous articles and statements have been made by agents and officials in news reports and were quoted in the suits themselves.
Good. Shouldn’t be hard to post then
 
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Sensible? Sensible?
The poster was not posting nonsensical things, like blaming Biden simply because immigrants were increasingly crossing the border illegally during his stay in office.
See, this is a loaded question. It can't even be answered as posed because it requires accepting blank assertions. But if you read the article you link to, it actually answers why Biden's administrative actions made sense and why some even had to be done due to events such as the covid pandemic ending.
I don't know what you're talking about. Do you realize that under Trump, those seeking asylum were piling up in Mexico without their cases even being heard? Did you know that this caused an increase in those that tried to enter illegally? Did you even read the article you linked to?
And you sit, and tell us we are insensible devils????
No, I said a certain posters' posts were sensible. Just because I said someone said something smart doesn't mean I called everyone else dumb.
Who do you think are truly devils here????
I believe the devil uses semantics to deceive people which involves hearing accusation and slander about others, accepting that slander as true, and repeating the slander. I'm not saying I'm above such things. It's just that I would want someone to point it out to me if I were believing slander because once you believe a lie about someone it changes your spirit. I've already said it's not the Holy Spirit telling someone to kill their neighbors if they don't agree with Trump.
American citizens who are good Christians? Really?
We will grow complacent if we lose humility. Remember that Paul said this:

But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
My dear Hazelelponi, you worry too much. Most of what we wish wasn't happening is out of anyone's control, even for the President of our Nation. It's ultimately in God's hands. Grace is a positive prejudice and there's no proof the fabric of our nation will be changed for the worse.
 
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True. It would be more like the Civil War of 2020: lighting cities on fire like Minneapolis, attacking govt buildings, overthrowing the police, tearing down monuments, taking over portions of cities, like Seattle.



 
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Good. Shouldn’t be hard to post then
I would suggest if you’re that poorly informed on what’s going on that you haven’t read basic news articles, maybe do that before participating in the thread.
 
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I would suggest if you’re that poorly informed on what’s going on that you haven’t read basic news articles, maybe do that before participating in the thread.
Gee, I did a search and this interview with the border patrol chief came up. Maybe you should follow your own advice
 
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I would suggest if you’re that poorly informed on what’s going on that you haven’t read basic news articles, maybe do that before participating in the thread.
I did a Google search for “Border Patrol Agents speak about razor wire “ and I get nothing like you suggest. It’s all results about the stand off
 
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Gee, I did a search and this interview with the border patrol chief came up. Maybe you should follow your own advice
Weird, my version of that video has him asking for more agents and resources, not razor wire, nor did he express he favored that method.
 
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So?

They were ordered to comply, the Supreme Court upheld it. Just because other people in his party say they support his defiance doesn’t mean anything.

Or is the direction of the Supreme Court optional now? Abortion clinics can open back up, provide abortions, and as long as they get 25 politicians to say it’s fine with them, nothing can be done?

Doesn’t the right ever get tired of preying on people’s fear and prejudices in order to get support? Doesn’t the right just ever get tired of being told that they need to be afraid of everything, that every person crossing the border is a fentanyl-selling, terrorist in training coming to marry their daughters, steal their jobs, and dirty the blood of our nation?
 
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Weird, my version of that video has him asking for more agents and resources, not razor wire, nor did he express he favored that method.
Exactly. Just saying they’re overwhelmed and it’s unsustainable. I can’t find any of the numerous reports of CBP complaints about the razor wire that you’re alleging
 
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Biden can cancel student loan debt after the SCOTUS ruled that he couldn’t, you mean defying the SC like that?
 
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Exactly. Just saying they’re overwhelmed and it’s unsustainable. I can’t find any of the numerous reports of CBP complaints about the razor wire that you’re alleging.

Saying they’re overwhelmed and it’s unsustainable (after the wire was put up, by the way) is a far cry away from saying “we are fighting an invasion and need razor wire.”

And it’s in the lawsuits, listed as a primary factor behind removing the wire, along with the blatant human rights violations it creates. If you can’t read that, I can’t help you.
 
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You’re shifting here. Where can I find all these reports of the CBP complaining about the razor wire?
I found one story and it’s a Texas LEO not CBP
 
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Biden can cancel student loan debt after the SCOTUS ruled that he couldn’t, you mean defying the SC like that?
He didn’t defy it, actually, but used similar paths at loan and administrative restructuring and consolidation as well as interest recalculations that Trump used in 2019.

When Trump did it in 2019, the right was thrilled. I see no reason why, when Biden does it, they wouldn’t also be thrilled.
 
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