Abbott asserts Texas's right to self-defense amid border surge

[ralliann]

Please provide the evidence in the proposed bill which allows 5000 people a day to enter America AND stay. You keep posting this, so the evidence should not be difficult to post.

And this is why the bill is hidden.

 

[childeye 2]

Biden and senators on verge of striking immigration deal aimed at clamping down on illegal border crossings

After weeks of closed-door negotiations, the White House and a trio of senators could unveil an agreement as early as this week, sources said.

www.cbsnews.com

The power, which Mr. Biden referred to as an authority to "shut down the border" on Friday, would be mandated after average daily migrant crossings hit 5,000 over seven days, or 8,500 in a single day. It could also be activated on a discretionary basis after average daily crossings surpass 4,000 in a week.2

I can't even guess how many times I've seen someone trying to make a Trump supporter understand that Biden doesn't have the legal authority to stop processing asylum seekers crossing the border between ports of entry.

"The agreement is expected to give the executive branch a new legal authority to effectively suspend asylum in between official ports of entry when migrant crossings surpass certain thresholds."

Currently, Biden does not have the authority, and this is why blaming Biden for not halting illegal border crossings is political propaganda.

 

[ralliann]

I can't even guess how many times I've seen someone trying to make a Trump supporter understand that Biden doesn't have the legal authority to stop processing asylum seekers crossing the border between ports of entry.

"The agreement is expected to give the executive branch a new legal authority to effectively suspend asylum in between official ports of entry when migrant crossings surpass certain thresholds."

Currently, Biden does not have the authority, and this is why blaming Biden for not halting illegal border crossings is political propaganda.

He could reinstate The policies he did away with THAT CAUSED THIS. He does have the power to do that.

 

[BCP1928]

He could reinstate The policies he did away with THAT CAUSED THIS. He does have the power to do that.

What policies are those, specifically?

 

[ralliann]

What policies are those, specifically?

Remain in Mexico, for one.

 

[childeye 2]

He could reinstate The policies he did away with THAT CAUSED THIS. He does have the power to do that.

Respectfully, you're mistaken and I've shown this before. The Trump era "remain in Mexico policy" went into effect in January 2019 and it did not stop the flow of illegal border crossings; it caused an increase in illegal border crossings. Biden wasn't even able to end the program until July 2022.

From Wikipedia:
the Supreme Court of the United States ruled on June 30, 2022, in Biden vs Texas, that the administration had the authority to end the policy. In December 2022, however, a federal judge blocked the Biden administration from ending the program. Remain in Mexico has been widely criticized by human rights organizations for exposing migrants to attacks while they awaited processing.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Remain in Mexico, for one.

As I pointed out in post #180, Remain in Mexico (otherwise known as the Migrant Protection Protocols) did not have a significant effect on illegal immigration. If anything, the program actually made the problem worse - tell people that you're going to ramp up enforcement, and they'll scramble to get into the country before the new program goes into effect. That's readily apparent if you look at the 2019 Border Patrol encounter numbers.

Except it wasn't. It created an artificial surge, and sparked fears of future restrictions that drove immigration to increase after Biden took office.

The Migrant Protection Protocols were announced in December of 2018 and enacted in July of 2019. If you look at Border Patrol encounter data, encounters surged from February to June of 2019 (peaking at 132k in May), and remained higher than average until October - after the program was in place - when they dropped down to more or less the same level (~30-40k encounters/month) that they'd been for the past ten years, where they stayed all through COVID. Numbers started to spike again after Biden took office - likely because of a perception that his administration would be more friendly to migrants.

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2021-Aug/U.S.%20Border%20Patrol%20Monthly%20Encounters%20%28FY%202000%20-%20FY%202020%29%20%28508%29.pdf

Yes, the problem did get worse after Biden ended the program, but it was already getting worse before he did that, and several significant events that affected the number of migrants worldwide occurred between 2019 and 2021. Given the lack of effect that the MPPs had on illegal immigration numbers (2019 surge aside), it's unreasonable to expect that they would have done anything to improve the current situation.

 

[ralliann]

Respectfully, you're mistaken and I've shown this before. The Trump era "remain in Mexico policy" went into effect in January 2019 and it did not stop the flow of illegal border crossings; it caused an increase in illegal border crossings.

What???
This is useless.

 

[ralliann]

As I pointed out in post #180, Remain in Mexico (otherwise known as the Migrant Protection Protocols) did not have a significant effect on illegal immigration. If anything, the program actually made the problem worse - tell people that you're going to ramp up enforcement, and they'll scramble to get into the country before the new program goes into effect. That's readily apparent if you look at the 2019 Border Patrol encounter numbers.


Yes, the problem did get worse after Biden ended the program, but it was already getting worse before he did that, and several significant events that affected the number of migrants worldwide occurred between 2019 and 2021. Given the lack of effect that the MPPs had on illegal immigration numbers (2019 surge aside), it's unreasonable to expect that they would have done anything to improve the current situation.

Biden has invited them in, along with politicians in Sanctuary cities. Biden could have kept all the policies which kept things under control.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Biden has invited them in, along with politicians in Sanctuary cities.

That did not happen.

Biden could have kept all the policies which kept things under control.

As I pointed out in my post, they did not do anything.

 

[ralliann]

That did not happen.

As I pointed out in my post, they did not do anything.

Yes, they did. You are like myorkus

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Yes, they did.

Let's see some quotes.

You are like myorkus

There's no call for personal attacks.

 

[childeye 2]

What???
This is useless.

Biden has invited them in, along with politicians in Sanctuary cities. Biden could have kept all the policies which kept things under control.

The official Customs and Border Protection agency says you're wrong. The Remain in Mexico policy was implemented in January 2019. The numbers show the illegal border crossings increased in the year 2019. The Biden administration wasn't even able to end the policy until July 2022.

From Wikipedia:
the Supreme Court of the United States ruled on June 30, 2022, in Biden vs Texas, that the administration had the authority to end the policy. In December 2022, however, a federal judge blocked the Biden administration from ending the program. Remain in Mexico has been widely criticized by human rights organizations for exposing migrants to attacks while they awaited processing.

 

[BCP1928]

Biden has invited them in, along with politicians in Sanctuary cities. Biden could have kept all the policies which kept things under control.

Possibly. But there was some doubt about the constitutionality of continuing Title 42 after the emergency for which it was enacted was over. The issue seems to be about whether the right to make an asylum claim must be extended to those who have entered the country illegally--a policy to which we are bound by law and treaty. Abolishing that policy cannot be done by Executive Order; legislative action is required.

 

[ralliann]

Let's see some quotes.

There's no call for personal attacks.

Well, it is all over the news, it the number one concern right now so. Even dems are seeing it as problem.

 

[BPPLEE]

Well, it is all over the news, it the number one concern right now so. Even dems are seeing it as problem.

The benefits of being a sanctuary city

Cops allegedly beaten by rowdy migrant mob near Times Square — with suspects later freed without bail: horrifying video

Shocking video captured the moment a migrant mob pounded a pair of cops near Times Square over the weekend — but the busted cowardly suspects were still released back on the street without ba…

nypost.com

 

[BPPLEE]

Biden has invited them in, along with politicians in Sanctuary cities. Biden could have kept all the policies which kept things under control.

Do you think things like free sex change surgery for illegal trans migrants encourages people to come here illegally?

California paying for illegal migrants to gender transition sparks fury

About 700,000 additional illegal migrants in California are eligible for gender-affirming care from Medi-Cal beginning January 1.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Belk]

Do you think things like free sex changes for illegal trans migrants encourages people to come here illegally?

California paying for illegal migrants to gender transition sparks fury

About 700,000 additional illegal migrants in California are eligible for gender-affirming care from Medi-Cal beginning January 1.

www.newsweek.com

<Raises eyebrow>

No. No I don't think the vanishingly small population who wish to transition are walking thousands of miles for a free sex change. Kudos though, for linking in the other recent bogey man we are all supposed to be upset over.

 

[BPPLEE]

<Raises eyebrow>

No. No I don't think the vanishingly small population who wish to transition are walking thousands of miles for a free sex change. Kudos though, for linking in the other recent bogey man we are all supposed to be upset over.

There are other benefits. I was just sharing one of the perks. It’s hardly the only one

 

[Belk]

There are other benefits. I was just sharing one of the perks. It’s hardly the only one

Uh huh. Still don't think people are walking thousands of miles for "perks". Could it be, and I'm just spitballing here, could it be their home states are in turmoil and they are coming here for the American dream? To live a better life for them ans their families?