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Yes.
Stay ignorant (not knowlegable in a certain field)
Any excuse will do.
You can't trust those who were taught by the Apostles,
but you could trust some guy from 400 years ago that came up with
a brand new idea.
Where is it stated in the verse from Revelation that these people were ever a believer.You see Taylor,
I can't trust you.
I have to go by what Jesus said and Paul and the other writers.
I have a whole book here written by persons that were taught BY THE APOSTLES.
They also believed in loss of salvation.
Faith only churches are not telling the truth.
Most person are God-loving, probably as yourself, and so your incorrect doctrine will have no effect on your salvation...
but what if some member decides that they're going to just do whatever they want to because this is what their church taught them?
How does that square with Revelation 21:27?
I'll write more tomorrow if you care to continue...
but it's past midnight here...
'night.
I do believe this is an important topic...
There's only one type of free will in the bible.I don't suppose you have noticed then, that @Clare73 believes in free will? Just not the usual self-contradictory notion of it
It's not MY VIEW taylor.So in your view God is not able to eternally save a person, He (God) needs your help. Does not seem like a very powerful God you believe in, that this God needs the help of sinful humans to eternally save them.
You're living in a dream my friend.Where is it stated in the verse from Revelation that these people were ever a believer.
Do you understand that when a person trust in The Messiah for Eternal Life, God's Spirit takes up permanent residence in this person. God can never look to the sinful spirit of a human and see anything righteous.
So even though a person who has fallen away and may appear sinful by outside actions they are doing. God still only sees His perfect Spirit residing in this person. This Spirit is said to never leave a person, a person may quench The Spirit, but they can never remove The Spirit.
Who said man could be sinless?That would contradict Php 1:6, 1Th 5:24, 1Co 1:8, 1Pe 1:5, 9, Heb 10:39, Jn 10:28, 1 Jn 3:9.
The NT presents limited free will: man is able to make some moral choices, but not all moral choices. . .he cannot choose to be always sinless in thought, word and deed.
Could you make a list of who wrote what book in the NT?The content of my faith is not based on those who were taught by the Apostles, but on what the Apostles and disciples themselves teach in the God-breathed Scriptures (2Ti 3:16).
Revelation states that NOTHING UNCLEAN WILL ENTER HEAVEN.Where is it stated in the verse from Revelation that these people were ever a believer.
Do you understand that when a person trust in The Messiah for Eternal Life, God's Spirit takes up permanent residence in this person. God can never look to the sinful spirit of a human and see anything righteous.
So even though a person who has fallen away and may appear sinful by outside actions they are doing. God still only sees His perfect Spirit residing in this person. This Spirit is said to never leave a person, a person may quench The Spirit, but they can never remove The Spirit.
According to you, are a will's decisions:There's only one type of free will in the bible.
A will that is free to choose moral options.
Revelation states that NOTHING UNCLEAN WILL ENTER HEAVEN.
Do you believe an UNCLEAN believer can enter heaven?
Is John split in his belief system?
The Holy Spirit cannot dwell in an unclean temple.
Here's what Jesus said:
John 15:1-6
1“I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser.
2“Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit.
3“You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you.
4“Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in Me.
5“I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing.
6“If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned.
May I suggest that you do not pay too much attention to your mentor and start paying attention to what Jesus taught?
No further comment on free will.According to you, are a will's decisions:
1) caused in any way by causes external to the person choosing, or
2) caused in part by causes external to the person choosing, or
3) completely free of external causes?
Nothing further to add.Well my final observation on your comments is that you are trusting in your obedience and how well you can live your life and are hoping your obedience will be approved by God. So you will be judged at the end worthy of receiving eternal life.
But not the philosopher's "free will" of the power to choose all moral options. . .for man cannot choose to be always sinless in thought, word and deed. The Bible presents a limited free will.There's only one type of free will in the bible.
A will that is free to choose moral options.
Could you make a list of who wrote what book in the NT?
My faith is not based on the apostles. The content of my faith is the Scriptures, no more and no less.Probably not since even Paul's letters were not all written by him.
The Apostles wrote very little in the NT.
But I agree that you should base your faith on the Apostles...
you just haven't given the right reason.
I dont know about philosophical free will.But not the philosopher's "free will" of the power to choose all moral options. . .for man cannot choose to be always sinless in thought, word and deed. The Bible presents a limited free will.
I suspect Calvin was addressing the philosophical notion, not the Biblical notion.
You mean the bible is your God?The Holy Spirit bears witness to my spirit that the NT is the word of God in every detail, the very truth of God backed by the power and authority of God, its testimony having final authority. For me, there is no appeal against Scripture (2 Ti 3:16), and that case is forever closed, never subject to review for me.
My faith is not based on the apostles. The content of my faith is the Scriptures, no more and no less.
John 1:13 (not born of human decision, but of God)I dont know about philosophical free will.
Only biblical.
Post some scripture that states our free will is limited...
You mean the bible is your God?
However, my faith is not based on reason.Question:
WHY do you think your faith is reasonable?
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