A thread on evolution

[createdtoworship]

No because in courts of law a "quote mine" would be called something more appropriate like a "lie". Or at best an "intentional misrepresentation".



You told us earlier you had worked at a newspaper. SURELY you know how quotes are treated, correct?

If someone preferentially takes portions of quotes out of context in the hopes of misleading someone it is a quote mine (or if you will, a "lie" or "intentional misrepresentation".) IF, however you cut out a portion of a quote and mark it with ELLIPSES and it does not change the intent or meaning of the quote you are OK.

Why is this such a hard concept?



-sigh- You know if you want people to take you seriously you need to respond in a serious and adult manner. This is absolutely bizarre.



Quote mining is a "common parlance" short hand for "selective quoting to decontextualize the original intent with the intention of misleading the reader into thinking it says something that the original quote did not intend".

In fact BOTH INDIVIDUAL WORDS "Quote" and "Mine" exist in dictionaries all over the world. Even the OED. And combined they make a PHRASE (it is not necessary for every single n-gram phrase to be in the dictionary for it to be a real thing. For instance: is the phrase "Grady is acting strangely" in ANY dictionary you can find? If not, does that mean that phrase has NO MEANING? Nope, because all the words exist in the dictionary and can be combined to form a perfectly rational sentence.



Are you being intentionally obtuse on this? Is this some new gambit?

so again you have no evidence that this occurs. Because I don't honor quote mining as a term. So you'll have to try harder if you wish to relay your information clearly.

 

[createdtoworship]

What is amazing is that I gave graydll an example of quote mining from the Bible. If one cares to be dishonest one can quote the Bible 12 different times saying "There is no God" or "there is no god". By graydll's standard the Bible clearly states that god does not exist.

I guess it is a good thing that most Christians do not go by those standards. They realize that taking a quote out of context to deceive people is a form of lying. They would see my attempt at quote mining, if I tried to do it, as a lie. Strangely graydll can't see that when people do that about evolution it is a lie as well.

not quote mining at all. I don't honor the presence of quote mining as an official term. Maybe a quotation out of context. But I can guarantee it has nothing to do with mining.

 

[createdtoworship]

Do you need someone to explain to you how language works?

Although at this point I refuse to believe you are being serious... you gotta be trolling...

is it possible to troll your own thread, (seriously, you must be reaching out for any old answer)

 

[createdtoworship]

sorry I posted that so many times, my multiquote was not working on this computer.

 

[Subduction Zone]

not quote mining at all. I don't honor the presence of quote mining as an official term. Maybe a quotation out of context. But I can guarantee it has nothing to do with mining.

And you may not "honor gravity as an official force". That does not make it not exist.

Sorry, you have shown that you are not interested in "the truth". An honest person, regardless of faith, will despise quote mining.

 

[Subduction Zone]

is it possible to troll your own thread, (seriously, you must be reaching out for any old answer)

Of course it is.

Just because it is your thread does not mean that you can ignore the rules of the site.

 

[createdtoworship]

Gobbledegook.

thats a very intelligent answer. I honor that. At least you are not pretending like some of the others.

 

[bhsmte]

And you may not "honor gravity as an official force". That does not make it not exist.

Sorry, you have shown that you are not interested in "the truth". An honest person, regardless of faith, will despise quote mining.

You are correct and this thread is evidence of numerous psychological defense mechanisms, in action.

 

[createdtoworship]

And you may not "honor gravity as an official force". That does not make it not exist.

Sorry, you have shown that you are not interested in "the truth". An honest person, regardless of faith, will despise quote mining.

you are equivocating the words official force. I was saying an official term, not an official force.

 

[Subduction Zone]

you are equivocating the word official

Nope, you don't know what logical fallacies are or how to use them. You should just try your best to be honest.

 

[createdtoworship]

Of course it is.

Just because it is your thread does not mean that you can ignore the rules of the site.

If I am breaking a rule, report it. Don't waste time talking to me about it. That too is against the rules.

 

[lesliedellow]

thats a very intelligent answer. I honor that. At least you are not pretending like some of the others.

It is at least a hundred IQ points higher than trying to play silly semantics.

 

[Subduction Zone]

By the way, I took the "good person test". The test failed. That was a rather idiotic test. Did Ray Comfort have anything to do with it? It has his hamfisted "morals" all over it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If I am breaking a rule, report it. Don't waste time talking to me about it. That too is against the rules.

I was merely trying to help you. But the next time you do so, I will follow your request.

 

[createdtoworship]

By the way, I took the "good person test". The test failed. That was a rather idiotic test. Did Ray Comfort have anything to do with it? It has his hamfisted "morals" all over it.

you mean the ten commandments, try God. He wrote the ten commandments with His own hand on mt sinai and gave it to moses. Ray comfort did not make up the ten commandments.

 

[createdtoworship]

I was merely trying to help you. But the next time you do so, I will follow your request.

I noticed this was against the rules too:

• Be considerate and do not make another member's experience on this site miserable. This includes making false accusations or persistently attacking them in the open forums.

 

[createdtoworship]

but I don't think I know how to use multiquote yet, part of the problem

 

[Subduction Zone]

you mean the ten commandments, try God. He wrote the ten commandments with His own hand on mt sinai and gave it to moses. Ray comfort did not make up the ten commandments.

No, not the Ten Commandments, and I am betting that you do not even know what the Ten Commandments written by God in his "own hand on mt sinai and gave it to moses" were.

That looks like Ray's incompetent work.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I noticed this was against the rules too:

• Be considerate and do not make another member's experience on this site miserable. This includes making false accusations or persistently attacking them in the open forums.

I have never made a false accusation against you. Nor have I attacked you.

So I guess I am safe, whew!

 

[pitabread]

is it possible to troll your own thread

Sure, I've done it. You get bored with the existing discussion, stir the pot a little bit.

(seriously, you must be reaching out for any old answer)

I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. I mean, you're either messing with us, or you've revealed you don't understand how language works or why dictionaries exist.