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then why are you still here. I mean seriously. You have atheists visiting a christian thread debating atheism and the fact that the universe came from nothing. Which is atheism.

I usually come here to kill time while doing 3D rendering (lots of waiting involved in that). Plus it gives me an excuse to read up on various topics of interest (e.g. biology).

You'll also notice I'm not an atheist nor do I ever directly advocate atheism in these discussions.
 
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uuum every movie is edited. As far as I am concerned. Red herring.

It's not a red herring; it's just a fact that you're only seeing what the editor wants you to see. I already explained that video editing can be used to create a particular narrative (i.e. Ray Comfort converts atheists! It's a miracle!). This is why videos, particularly chopped up interviews like the kind Ray does, aren't necessarily a good representation of whatever really happened when Ray set out to proselytize to a bunch of college kids.
 
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Look in the mirror.

Im very calm over here.

Just because I got you and showed how dishonest you are shouldnt get you worked up. Own up like a grown-up.

lol, keep telling yourself that man. When you want to debate with logic, and not splatter ad hominems everywhere like feces, let me know. I am all ears. (and I am calm by the way too, I think it's quite humorous)
 
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It's not a red herring; it's just a fact that you're only seeing what the editor wants you to see. I already explained that video editing can be used to create a particular narrative (i.e. Ray Comfort converts atheists! It's a miracle!). This is why videos, particularly chopped up interviews like the kind Ray does, aren't necessarily a good representation of whatever really happened when Ray set out to proselytize to a bunch of college kids.

say there were 100 conversations he had, and he only picked out 10 that got converted. Is that wrong. As long as he posts the entire conversation. It's not wrong at all. 10% got converted, thats pretty good odd's And I guarantee you it was not that many. Maybe double at most.
 
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Yes, it's simple and easy to do. All you need to do is show the evidence.



No, it isn't. Particularly when you have dozens of examples of him doing so, supported by accounts of people who he has interviewed. Along with other assorted bits of dishonesty:

The Raytractors - Ray Comfort's Detractors: Evidence of Ray's Dishonesty
DisComforting Ignorance: Epic Evidence of Ray's Dishonesty
American Atheists
Truth-Saves | Apologetics Exposed
Answers in Genesis BUSTED!: Ray Comfort - Dishonest as he can be
The Atheist Experience™: Ray Comfort, pathological liar
Episode 18 - Monkey Business with Craig Stanford
Ray Comfort is a fraud

And, its not just atheists. Other Evangelicals also consider him dishonest.
Ray Comfort’s ten tall tales about Noah and the Last Days

Oh, and Ray admits to selective editing himself:
Ray Comfort confesses

And when called out on it, he just doubles down on his original claims (no wonder you appear to be such a big fan)
The Comfort Zone: "Selectively editing" PZ Myers.

Seriously, the only thing Ray Comfort is good for is that showing the complete absence of any sort of intellectual integrity or actual thought that goes into his sort of apologetics approach. At this point, he's pretty much a punchline and a pest to be avoided - no one with any credibility wants to be seen with him.
fake news, like cnn.

sorry I don't buy it. The fact you guys are making a mountain out of a mole hill, means it's only amplified if it were posted to some extremists blog somewhere.
 
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I usually come here to kill time while doing 3D rendering (lots of waiting involved in that). Plus it gives me an excuse to read up on various topics of interest (e.g. biology).

You'll also notice I'm not an atheist nor do I ever directly advocate atheism in these discussions.

I am just curious why you would pick a christian forum over an agnostics forum? Not trying to be rude. I just don't see the logic, unless one is trying to recruit.
 
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That you deliberately re-define words to support your silly assertions?

Yes.

if you can find science that does not use observation to test a theory behind the science. Let us know. That sounds like faith to me.
 
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