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A Third Temple Is A Slap Across Christ's Face.....

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Hentenza, you said:
Originally Posted by Hentenza
Unfortunately you are jumping the gun here. Jesus restores all things at the beginning of the millennium and then reigns for 1000 years. The restoration referred to is accomplished during the tribulation and effected at the time of Jesus return when He judges the nations (Matt. 25).

Then I said:
I've heard this theory before, but I see nothing in scripture to support it.

Then you pointed me towards Isaiah 11:1-10, as if to prove your point that Jesus restores all things at the beginning of the millennium.

That's a nice passage and all, the only problem is, it says nothing about the millennium and therefore it does nothing to support your point.

It talks about Jesus slaying the wicked and then it talks about the sheep lying down with the lion and the child not getting bit by a cobra.

Did you ever think that maybe this refers to the time after the millennium? Where is the evidence that this speaks of the millennium period? Or do we have to use our imagination here?
 
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Brother, words have meaning. Rev. 7 begins with the words "After this" which naturally means that it is after the vision of the sixth seal. Revelation does not follow a strict chronology but there is a general order observed.

He says "After this I saw". Meaning he saw one thing, and then another. In no way does that mean the second thing he saw was not part of the sixth seal.

And in any case, it really doesn't matter whether you include it in the sixth seal or the 20th seal or no seal at all. The fact remains that at some point after we see the souls under the altar, we see a joyous multitude.

So my point still stands. It makes sense that this multitude is the same group we saw under the altar, but now resurrected.

And yet, no prophet of old ever prophesied a New Heavens and a new earth consequently it is beyond the context of Acts 3.

On the contrary. There are prophecies of Satan's demise in Ezekiel. Satan's demise takes place after the millennium.

Ezekiel 28:18-19
18 By your many sins and dishonest trade
you have desecrated your sanctuaries.
So I made a fire come out from you,
and it consumed you,
and I reduced you to ashes on the ground
in the sight of all who were watching.
19 All the nations who knew you
are appalled at you;
you have come to a horrible end
and will be no more
.’”


So if, as you say, Acts 3:21 refers only to the things that were prophesied about, then Satan's death has to be included in that. Which means Jesus will not leave heaven until after Satan has been destroyed.

Furthermore, 1 Peter 3:22 proves that Jesus is currently reigning in heaven. So when Revelation 20 says that the martyrs will join him in his reign for 1000 years, why should we think that this reign will at that point be transferred to earth?

His reign continues until death is destroyed.

1 Corinthians 15
25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

When death is destroyed, Jesus accomplishes this from his throne in heaven after the millennium. Why should we think that Jesus who is now reigning in heaven, will come down to earth for a thousand years, and then go back up to heaven to finish up some loose ends?

It makes much more sense that Jesus will stay where he is until all his enemies under are under his feet. Including death.

I don't brother. The crown is a reward given at judgment ("At that day" Matt. 25).

8 Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day—and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing.

Don't you see that this verse ties the time of his appearing to that time of judging?
 
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Did you know that Jews tried to rebuild the Temple back in 363AD, and even secular accounts say that fire came out of the ground and swallowed them up? Look it up: Roman Emperor Julian.

Wow. That's very interesting. I never knew this before. Thanks for mentioning it. I looked it up and found many descriptions of this event, both Christian and secular.

When they had removed the ruins of the former building, they dug up the ground and cleared away its foundation; it is said that on the following day when they were about to lay the first foundation, a great earthquake occurred, and by the violent agitation of the earth, stones were thrown up from the depths, by which those of the Jews who were engaged in the work were wounded, as likewise those who were merely looking on. The houses and public porticos, near the site of the Temple, in which they had diverted themselves, were suddenly thrown down; many were caught thereby, some perished immediately, others were found half dead and mutilated of hands or legs, others were injured in other parts of the body.

When God caused the earthquake to cease, the workmen who survived again returned to their task, partly because such was the edict of the emperor, and partly because they were themselves interested in the undertaking. Men often, in endeavoring to gratify their own passions, seek what is injurious to them, reject what would be truly advantageous, and are deluded by the idea that nothing is really useful except what is agreeable to them. When once led astray by this error, they are no longer able to act in a manner conducive to their own interests, or to take warning by the calamities which are visited upon them. [The Church Father here records his belief that the Temple could not be rebuilt.]

The Jews, I believe, were just in this state; for, instead of regarding this unexpected earthquake as a manifest indication that God was opposed to the reerection of their Temple, they proceeded to recommence the work. But all parties relate that they had scarcely returned to the undertaking, when fire burst suddenly from the foundations of the Temple, and consumed several of the workmen. [J. M. Campbell in the Scottish Review, 1900, believed that an explosion of oil put an end to the work. This sounds fanciful.]

This fact is fearlessly stated, and believed by all; the only discrepancy in the narrative is that some maintain that flame burst from the interior of the Temple, as the workmen were striving to force an entrance, while others say that the fire proceeded - directly from the earth. In whichever way the phenomenon might have occurred, it is equally wonderful.

A more tangible and still more extraordinary miracle ensued; suddenly the sign of the cross appeared spontaneously on the garments of the persons engaged in the undertaking. These crosses looked like stars, and appeared the work of art. Many were hence led to confess that Christ is God, and that the rebuilding of the Temple was not pleasing to Him; others presented themselves in the church, were initiated, and besought Christ, with hymns and supplications, to pardon their transgression. If any one does not feel disposed to believe my narrative, let him go and be convinced by those who heard the facts I have related from the eyewitnesses of them, for they are still alive. Let him inquire, also, of the Jews and pagans who left the work in an incomplete state, or who, to speak more accurately, were unable to commence it.
 
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Another minor point:

11 Then David gave his son Solomon the plans for the portico of the temple, its buildings, its storerooms, its upper parts, its inner rooms and the place of atonement. 12 He gave him the plans of all that the Spirit had put in his mind for the courts of the temple of the LORD and all the surrounding rooms, for the treasuries of the temple of God and for the treasuries for the dedicated things. 13 He gave him instructions for the divisions of the priests and Levites, and for all the work of serving in the temple of the LORD, as well as for all the articles to be used in its service. 14 He designated the weight of gold for all the gold articles to be used in various kinds of service, and the weight of silver for all the silver articles to be used in various kinds of service: 15 the weight of gold for the gold lampstands and their lamps, with the weight for each lampstand and its lamps; and the weight of silver for each silver lampstand and its lamps, according to the use of each lampstand; 16 the weight of gold for each table for consecrated bread; the weight of silver for the silver tables; 17 the weight of pure gold for the forks, sprinkling bowls and pitchers; the weight of gold for each gold dish; the weight of silver for each silver dish; 18 and the weight of the refined gold for the altar of incense. He also gave him the plan for the chariot, that is, the cherubim of gold that spread their wings and overshadow the ark of the covenant of the LORD.

19 “All this,” David said, “I have in writing as a result of the LORD’s hand on me, and he enabled me to understand all the details
 
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"From my reading of the last page or so, it sounds like everyone is in agreement that these things are going to happen at some FUTURE point in time. Yet the OP title says "The Third Temple *IS* a slap in Christ's face". As if it's a foregone concluson and Satan has already won."

Try thinking subjectively instead of objectively, Brak.......
 
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I was puzzled about evangelical? zionist? christians enthusiasm for the third temple as well.

I believe the Jews, who are blind to the gospel, truly desire to build the temple. The temple has nothing to do with Christians, I'm not sure if we should be supporting it with money but then again, I can see why some would- salvation does come from the Jews first. If it is pleasing to God, he will allow it, and as it is clearly detailed in the Bible, I believe it will be built. But I do read in Daniel that the sacrifices WILL cease. The sacrifices are made for the collective sins of the Jewish nation, not the sins of Christians. And it says specifically 70 weeks are needed for the sacrificises to make restritution. I don't think they will go on forever.

We have know the person who sacrificed his life for US, the Jews do not. We also read there will be a battle, and an earthquake..around the time of Jesus return. When he returns there will be no need for this part of the temple and these rituals, as we read in Revelation about the Holy city Jerusalem, and the tree of life and the living waters flowing from inside.. But the walls outside may stay, and the rooms may still stay as a house of prayer. The temple as described has a large courtyard, surrounding it, the 'temple' part of it where God says he will dwell is actually very small..I think the gates and territories have more significance. Personally I do not know how this 1000 year reign (millenium) fits in with the temple described in ezekiel. Ezekiel describes an earthly kingdom with people being born..if we have eternal life from the moment of resurrection/rapture and are in the Kingdom (of Heaven)and Christ is reigning how is it people are giving birth..(?). Does that mean those born in this time period already have eternal life without being 'born again'? Also I don't know if the Prince mentioned in Ezekiel actually means Jesus.
 
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I was puzzled about evangelical? zionist? christians enthusiasm for the third temple as well.

I believe the Jews, who are blind to the gospel, truly desire to build the temple. The temple has nothing to do with Christians, I'm not sure if we should be supporting it with money but then again, I can see why some would- salvation does come from the Jews first. If it is pleasing to God, he will allow it, and as it is clearly detailed in the Bible, I believe it will be built. But I do read in Daniel that the sacrifices WILL cease. The sacrifices are made for the collective sins of the Jewish nation, not the sins of Christians. And it says specifically 70 weeks are needed for the sacrificises to make restritution. I don't think they will go on forever.

We have know the person who sacrificed his life for US, the Jews do not.

The thing is, Jesus sacrificed his life for everybody, not just the Gentiles. Many Jews have accepted Christ, in fact the very first Christians were Jews. The gospel only came to the gentiles later.

Anybody who rejects the message is condemned. Whether Jew or gentile. Therefore, how can a new temple possibly be pleasing to God?

In God's eyes there is no difference between Jew and gentile. He treats us all the same, and His acceptance of us is based on faith, not works. There are no special rules or allowances for the Jews. They were given the same opportunity to accept Jesus as everybody else, and anybody who accepts Christ is a child of Abraham. Those who do not accept Christ are not part of the family.

Paul said that those who try to uphold the law are condemned because they have rejected Jesus. We need to stop holding onto this idea that the Jews don't have to live by faith simply because they're Jews.

Daniel 9:27 says that Jesus put a stop to sacrifice and offering. He's not going to support resumption of it, and neither should we.
 
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I said:



Then you said:



Here is the passage in question

1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered. 2 Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.

My reasoning is simple. Here the angel is speaking of the same time of great distress that Jesus warns about in Matthew 24, agreed?

Then he says that "at that time"
1. Everyone whose name is found in the book will be delivered (time of judgment).
2. Multitudes who sleep in the dust will awake (second resurrection).

These two points are part of the same event obviously because at the second resurrection, the books are opened which determine who will be delivered and who will not. (The books are not opened prior to the millennium, so this is your first clue)

The other reason that proves he is speaking of the second resurrection is the fact that he says this resurrection includes both righteous and wicked people. He says "some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt".

Which of the two resurrections includes both righteous and wicked? Only the second resurrection. The first resurrection is only for the martyrs.

So putting two and two together we can see that the time of great distress happens at the time of the second resurrection. Which we know happens after the millennium.

Simple.

i've been reading your posts, both to me and to Hentenza.

i think you'll understand the prophecies better if you understand the resurrection better.

there's order to the resurrections:


1 Corinthians 15:20-27 ( NKJV ) 20But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. 24Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted.

notice how the bible emphasized that point of order:

Revelation 20:4-6 ( NKJV ) 4And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

paul had shown in 1cor 15 that Christ was the firstfruits from the dead, and that "afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming".

those at his coming are described in rev 20:4, this is their resurrection. this resurrection includes the patriarchs of old, daniel, moses, and the like. it also includes those martyred throughout to the time of the end, and of course those who are in His Church (mark 13:24-27).

so, if there's a first resurrection, then there must be a second. and if there's a second resurrection, then when is it?

it is interesting that the bible points out that :


Revelation 5:5 ( NKJV ) 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished....

so it will be after the 1000 years that the second resurrection takes place, the resurrection that we commonly know as "the White Throne Judgement" or "Judgement Day" (rev 20:11-12).

at His first coming, Jesus came to die for our sins, so He came in a serving capacity to that end. at His second coming, we know that He is coming in power and glory and as King of kings (rev 19:16).

now tie this time frame from rev 19 to dan 2:


Daniel 2:44 ( NKJV ) 44And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever. and you will know when the second coming takes place

in the days that these kings are in charge will Jesus comes ( His second coming), and judges the nations with the help of the resurrected saints (rev 11:11-15, rev 2:26, rev 20:3, rev 19:15-16)!

so at His return or "second coming", Jesus is going to judge the nations,


Isaiah 2:4 ( NKJV ) 4 He shall judge between the nations,

And rebuke many people;

They shall beat their swords into plowshares,

And their spears into pruning hooks;

Nation shall not lift up sword against nation,

Neither shall they learn war anymore.

after that, the "Great White Throne Judgement", the "second resurrection" (rev 20:12).


now read daniel chapter 12 and fill in the time sequence.
 
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JohnRabbit, thanks for taking the time to explain your view and supporting it with scripture. However, you've failed to convince me that I'm reading it wrong.

You say that those described in Rev 20:4 are those resurrected at His coming. This is where we disagree. I believe it is the second resurrection that takes place at His coming, not the first.

Ironically, the scriptures you quote prove my point.

1 Corinthians 15:23-27 ( NKJV ) 23But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. 24Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted.


According to this passage, when Jesus comes we are resurrected. I think we agree on that part. But notice that then it says he delivers the kingdom to God the Father.

If he is delivering the Kingdom to God the Father then this signals the end of his reign, wouldn't you agree? And knowing that the martyrs reign with Christ during the millennium, we know that his reign does not end at the start of the millennium, but at the end.

So if his reign ends when Jesus comes back for us, how then can he come back for us at the start of the millennium?
 
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Most of the arguments in this thread are based on the formula in my title.

It has been alleged repeatedly in this thread that no scripture explicitly describes a millennium in this earth. This is complete and absolute error.

I have quite recently published a demonstration the scriptural proof that scripture indeed prophesies a future temporary earthly kingdom here in this sub-forum at the location linked below. As the proof includes a large number of explicitly stated scriptures with very little reasoning, I will simplylink to it here, rather than repeat it all. Here is the link:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7548942-5/

But aside from that, I fully agree that the rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem will be a slap in the face of Jesus. But that slap will pale into insignificance with their further sin of allowing the man of sin to sit in that very temple as God, showing himself that he is God.

Scripture describes this sin in detail, and describes the punishment God will then give this guilty nation in far greater detail. All the scriptures for this are traced in detail in the thread linked above.

But the scriptures also tell us that there will be a small remnant of that nation that will not share in this last sin, and will be persecuted for their faithfulness. They describe what will happen to this faithful remnant, and their eventual deliverance and restoration in the land. All these scriptures are also traced in the linked thread.

When this is all over, God will indeed set up a kingdom in this earth and bless the entire world through his earthly center in Jerusalem. Revelation 20 is the only place that explicitly says that this period will last a thousand years, but many, many other scriptures describe this period in great detail. Again, the linked thread traces through many of these scriptures. The only to deny that this earthly kingdom will indeed be set up is to deny the explicit statements of literally hundreds of Old Testament scriptures.

Now I realize that many participants in this forum are simply unaware that these scriptures exist. But they do indeed exist, and they are explicitly stated. Anyone who bothers to read the linked thread will know about them.
 
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"The temple has nothing to do with Christians..."

You obviously have never heard of John Hagee then......

(By the way, have you ever tried googling "Christian Support For The Third Temple"??).....
Isn't he a part of this Zionist movement :confused:

The Temple Mount Faithful: Working to Build the Third Temple in Jerusalem

The goal of the Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful Movement is the building of the Third Temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem in our lifetime in accordance with the Word of G-d and all the Hebrew prophets and the liberation of the Temple Mount from Arab (Islamic) occupation so that it may be consecrated to the Name of G-d.

The Other Gospel of John Hagee

THE OTHER GOSPEL
OF JOHN HAGEE
CHRISTIAN ZIONISM AND ETHNIC SALVATION

Hagee has become extremely popular since the 1987 dedication of his Cornerstone Church (an event that featured an appearance and a blessing from W.A. Criswell, then pastor of First Baptist Church of Dallas) and because of the daily programs from Global Evangelism Television of which he is president. His best-selling books have also made him a celebrity. He associates with the likes of Benny Hinn and appears with him from time to time at crusades and other Charismatic congresses.​
 
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I myself don't support the building of the temple. I am aware some christians do. And I can see their reasons, but I also don't see it is necessary. Let the Jews decide for themselves on what they see is honoring God.

I am just saying that it appears this rebuilding is the only way the Jews will ever come to be saved. God's ways are not our ways. Even when Jesus appeared to them IN PERSON, those many years ago, many still rejected him. Even when hearing the testimony of witnesses, Jews STILL rejected Him, and accused people of telling lies. The Talmud is an outright rejection of Jesus.
Scripture says the Jews are a stubborn and stiffnecked people. They search the scriptures but they never come to Jesus for the truth, even when the prophecies talk about him.
But salvation still depends on the Jews, God has not cast them away, even after the exiles and holocausts. there is still a remnant. Why hasn't Jesus returned yet? Because he is waiting specifically for the House of Israel to turn to him. And because God is longsuffering, and merciful, and because he KEEPS his promises, even when the Jews break their side of the covenant. Because God is THAT merciful.
God could at anytime have ended the world, raptured the christians. But he is waiting. Now the antichrist must appear before Jesus does. Of course we don't want the antifchrist to have his way, but that is the one of the ways God tests his people to see if they are for him or against him. The Jews endure much? Why? At anytime they could have ALL become christians. But they chose another way. The hard way.

If God had completely rejected people he made a covenant with through ignorance of Jesus, God would have broken his promise. Scripture says in many places that God blinds some people so others may be saved, or to demonstrate that HE is God, and in control of events. So that to me is the paradox of the Jews.

Even our own efforts to evangelise may have no effect on people who stubbronly resist and even while thinking they are obeying God's commands, by breaking one, break them all. Only God HIMSELF can change people's hearts. Think of Paul. Persecutor of christians, upright Jew/Pharisee, to the letter. He only believed when Jesus himself spoke to him.

The Israeli Jews have demonstrated they have many sins especially against the palestinians, and are willing to lie about them to puff themselves up with statehood, not realising even while boasting to thank God that they haven't been destoyed off the face of the earth for their crimes of oppressing strangers and not loving their neighbour. Will they look to Jesus? It isn't likely, because they are so entrenched in their religion/identity, and so bitter over what they perceive as past wrongs, that for many to accept Jesus and become Christians would be unthinkable. There is too much at stake, too much pride.
So God DOES have to deal with them in a special way. And when they come to realise this, and obey, recognise their Messiah, God will bless them, and through them we gentiles will ultimitately be Blessed. Because Jesus is coming back to Jeraselem first.. He isn't going to come to, say America. That's what he means by saying the first shall be last, and the last shall be first. Jesus was Jewish, we cannot deny this, and all the things he taught have significance for the Jewish people who hold on to God's promises, conditional on their complete obedience. We gentiles in Christ provoke them to jealousy because we are Spirit led, but they do not have this. There is much tribulation in store for them. Unfortunately this tribulation will also affect us christians but we of genuine faith will have the strength to endure. One day they will ALL cry out to Him, and then we will see with our own eyes their change of heart.
 
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Most of the arguments in this thread are based on the formula in my title.

It has been alleged repeatedly in this thread that no scripture explicitly describes a millennium in this earth. This is complete and absolute error.

I have quite recently published a demonstration the scriptural proof that scripture indeed prophesies a future temporary earthly kingdom here in this sub-forum at the location linked below. As the proof includes a large number of explicitly stated scriptures with very little reasoning, I will simplylink to it here, rather than repeat it all. Here is the link:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7548942-5/

But aside from that, I fully agree that the rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem will be a slap in the face of Jesus. But that slap will pale into insignificance with their further sin of allowing the man of sin to sit in that very temple as God, showing himself that he is God.

Scripture describes this sin in detail, and describes the punishment God will then give this guilty nation in far greater detail. All the scriptures for this are traced in detail in the thread linked above.

But the scriptures also tell us that there will be a small remnant of that nation that will not share in this last sin, and will be persecuted for their faithfulness. They describe what will happen to this faithful remnant, and their eventual deliverance and restoration in the land. All these scriptures are also traced in the linked thread.

When this is all over, God will indeed set up a kingdom in this earth and bless the entire world through his earthly center in Jerusalem. Revelation 20 is the only place that explicitly says that this period will last a thousand years, but many, many other scriptures describe this period in great detail. Again, the linked thread traces through many of these scriptures. The only to deny that this earthly kingdom will indeed be set up is to deny the explicit statements of literally hundreds of Old Testament scriptures.

Now I realize that many participants in this forum are simply unaware that these scriptures exist. But they do indeed exist, and they are explicitly stated. Anyone who bothers to read the linked thread will know about them.

You speak as though you have proof that Jesus will reign on earth during the millennium. I would ask you to post it here but there is no point in asking for something I know does not exist.

Revelation 20 is the only chapter that specifically talks about the millennium. Other chapters and other books speak about God's kingdom on earth. You clearly believe (as most Christians do) that the two events are one and the same. How frustrating it must be for you that you can't prove it.
 
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You speak as though you have proof that Jesus will reign on earth during the millennium. I would ask you to post it here but there is no point in asking for something I know does not exist.

Revelation 20 is the only chapter that specifically talks about the millennium. Other chapters and other books speak about God's kingdom on earth. You clearly believe (as most Christians do) that the two events are one and the same. How frustrating it must be for you that you can't prove it.
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You speak as though you have proof that Jesus will reign on earth during the millennium. I would ask you to post it here but there is no point in asking for something I know does not exist.

Revelation 20 is the only chapter that specifically talks about the millennium. Other chapters and other books speak about God's kingdom on earth. You clearly believe (as most Christians do) that the two events are one and the same. How frustrating it must be for you that you can't prove it.

Read the scriptures I posted at the Christian forums thread I linked, and then get back to me in that thread. To again post all of the scriptures posted there would be a wast of time. The truth is that the scriptures very explicitly describe a future temporary earthly kingdom centered in Jerusalem. And they describe it in great detail.
 
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Isn't he a part of this Zionist movement :confused:

The Temple Mount Faithful: Working to Build the Third Temple in Jerusalem

The goal of the Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful Movement is the building of the Third Temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem in our lifetime in accordance with the Word of G-d and all the Hebrew prophets and the liberation of the Temple Mount from Arab (Islamic) occupation so that it may be consecrated to the Name of G-d.

The Other Gospel of John Hagee

THE OTHER GOSPEL
OF JOHN HAGEE
CHRISTIAN ZIONISM AND ETHNIC SALVATION

Hagee has become extremely popular since the 1987 dedication of his Cornerstone Church (an event that featured an appearance and a blessing from W.A. Criswell, then pastor of First Baptist Church of Dallas) and because of the daily programs from Global Evangelism Television of which he is president. His best-selling books have also made him a celebrity. He associates with the likes of Benny Hinn and appears with him from time to time at crusades and other Charismatic congresses.​

yes, he is part of Christian Zionism... in fact, he is the leading spokesperson behind Christian Zionism here in San Antonio, some thing i dont follow, and will never follow
 
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But aside from that, I fully agree that the rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem will be a slap in the face of Jesus. But that slap will pale into insignificance with their further sin of allowing the man of sin to sit in that very temple as God, showing himself that he is God.
There is absolutely no significance to a man sitting in a building.

You words there closely resemble these:

2Thess.2:4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.



We ARE the temple of God where the Spirit of Christ dwells. It is within this temple, the temple of God which we are, that the man of sin sits and exalts himself. There are plenty of these sinful men around whose god is their own belly.
They sit on the throne of their self and place the Savior on the cross.
 
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