A Republican who cannot vote Mormon

[MachZer0]

Uh huh, and how do Mormon values diverge from yours, apart from theological variances between Mormonism and Protestantism?

How many times are you going to move these goal posts. It seems odd to me that you want to insist that Romney's values are the same as mine. that seems a decision for me to make

 

[SmellsLikeCurlyFries]

Anyone who would vote for or against a candidate based purely on that candidate's religion is a moron, period.

Furthermore, the Constitution states that we are prohibited from instituting a religious test for public office. Not voting for someone for no other reason than they don't follow your religion? Religious test for public office.

 

[JustMeSee]

I'm willing to have many different minority groups in this country since my people aren't native to this land either, as long as my group gets to keep its own culture, heritage, faith, etc. and for each culture to not try to dictate to others what to do or how to do things. Right now, the government is going AGAINST the white Christians that have built this country since it's founding.

I hear this frequently said, but have yet to see it. Reminded that the majority of elected officials in government ARE Caucasian Christians.

 

[JustMeSee]

...funny, I thought your president was black?
Whether or not he's a Christian is very much a matter of debate, but the fact that his skin color isn't exactly "white" is indisputable?

Our government is not really run by one person. That is a myth.

 

[tulc]

Ross Perot is 81 years old... You reckon we can get him to run? I need to cast a protest vote!

Could always vote for President Obama, he's a Christian.
tulc(seems like an easy choice)

 

[Maren]

Again, I wont vote for him because he doesn't represent my values, and it's bigotry. You won't vote for him because he doesn't represent your values, and it's just the right thing to do.

I actually may vote for Romney. I don't think I've ever found a perfect candidate that fully represented my values.

 

[SnowCal]

Hmmm so wanting a nation of common heritage, history, faith, and values as it has been for thousands of years until recently makes you a bigot? You're living in fantasy land!

Huh?

In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue.

 

[Belk]

Huh?

In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue.

Maybe he is hoping for a return to American Indian values?

 

[UnamSanctam]

Our government is not really run by one person. That is a myth.

Well, as Obama is not a dictator (NO, conspiracy theorists - he ISN'T!) that is true. However, the POTUS is the most powerful person in the government, and has final say in many matters (can veto Congress, for instance) is that not so?

 

[BleedingHeart]

I will give you just one example. Because of the immigration policies set by our government starting in the 1960s, whites will soon lose majority status in the United States. That is forfeiting the political and cultural power in the United States. But then again, the cultural power is pretty much already lost.

That's not being anti-white. This country isn't JUST for you.

 

[Rion]

Sorry folks, but trying to play deliberately obtuse isn't going to work here.

I'm not, you are deliberately lying. You apparently hate republicans so much, you project all sorts of falsehoods upon them. If one can be a bigot over religion, one can be a bigot over politics, and you, by your own definition, would be considered a bigot.

Could always vote for President Obama, he's a Christian.
tulc(seems like an easy choice)

He's as "Christian" as Romney. Unless you are saying that a faith that denies Christ as the only way to heaven is Christian.

 

[MachZer0]

I'm not, you are deliberately lying. You apparently hate republicans so much, you project all sorts of falsehoods upon them. If one can be a bigot over religion, one can be a bigot over politics, and you, good sir, are thus a bigot.



He's as "Christian" as Romney. Unless you are saying that a faith that denies Christ as the only way to heaven is Christian.

The irony of the situation is that yes there are some of us who as Christians cannot vote for Romney with a clear conscience. For that, we are called bigots. Yet, they turn around and tell us what we should believe and what we should do. In other words, if we don't believe as they do, we are in the wrong. And yet we are the bigots.

 

[Desk trauma]

Furthermore, the Constitution states that we are prohibited from instituting a religious test for public office. Not voting for someone for no other reason than they don't follow your religion? Religious test for public office.

The prohibition of religious test for offices of the public trust is a restriction on the government not the people. You and I are free to apply our own religious test in the voting booth but the state cannot apply one to stop people from getting on the ballot.

 

[Maren]

The irony of the situation is that yes there are some of us who as Christians cannot vote for Romney with a clear conscience. For that, we are called bigots. Yet, they turn around and tell us what we should believe and what we should do. In other words, if we don't believe as they do, we are in the wrong. And yet we are the bigots.

Only because it fits the definition of bigot, you aren't refusing to vote for Romney for any other reason other than his religion -- at least when specifically asked you haven't brought up any other reason. I'm not going to claim "leftists" are not bigots but that isn't the issue here. Instead, you merely seem to be the little kid that, when caught doing something wrong wants to whine "but Bobby did it first"!

Though it is easy to point out that one of the top Democrats is a Mormon, yet it is rare that you hear about that (at least from the left), it doesn't seem to be an issue. And Romney was voted in as Governor (a Republican Governor, no less) in one of the most liberal states in the US. So there is some evidence to suggest that these "leftists" are not being bigots (as a group, at least) as they seem to care more about the political beliefs of a candidate than their religion.

 

[MachZer0]

Only because it fits the definition of bigot, you aren't refusing to vote for Romney for any other reason other than his religion -- at least when specifically asked you haven't brought up any other reason. I'm not going to claim "leftists" are not bigots but that isn't the issue here. Instead, you merely seem to be the little kid that, when caught doing something wrong wants to whine "but Bobby did it first"!

Though it is easy to point out that one of the top Democrats is a Mormon, yet it is rare that you hear about that (at least from the left), it doesn't seem to be an issue. And Romney was voted in as Governor (a Republican Governor, no less) in one of the most liberal states in the US. So there is some evidence to suggest that these "leftists" are not being bigots (as a group, at least) as they seem to care more about the political beliefs of a candidate than their religion.

I told you that because of his religion, he doen't represent my values. So here you are, telling me how I should think, yet insinuating that I'm a bigot.

 

[Maren]

I told you that because of his religion, he doen't represent my values. So here you are, telling me how I should think, yet insinuating that I'm a bigot.

I didn't tell you how to think, I merely pointed out the truth. From your comments here, you fit the definition of a bigot -- that is a simple factual statement. I don't believe I ever definitively said you are a bigot, I've tried to be careful to qualify it based on the comments you have made and the questions you have not responded to -- as I'm trying not to make assumptions about what you actually believe. Not being able to vote for a person simply because they are Mormon (as the OP states), or Christian, or Muslim, or Black, makes that person a bigot -- that is the definition.

I think that you find my comments to be "telling me how I should think" says more about you then anything I could say.

 

[Creech]

That's not being anti-white. This country isn't JUST for you.

Up until the 1960s, we have been a White Christian country. Now it is changing. The mass media is pushing cultural Marxism on our people and mass immigration is greatly influencing our traditional American society. Excuse me if I would like to live in the same America my father grew up, and his father, and his father, and so on.

 

[Creech]

Maybe he is hoping for a return to American Indian values?

I'm talking about human civilization as a whole. But Native Americans obviously want to preserve their own cultural heritage in their reservations, which I support.

 

[tulc]

Up until the 1960s, we have been a White Christian country. Now it is changing. The mass media is pushing cultural Marxism on our people and mass immigration is greatly influencing our traditional American society. Excuse me if I would like to live in the same America my father grew up, and his father, and his father, and so on.

Which I guess would be nice for you. Unless your father was a minority. Or you were born a woman. Because then it would sort of stink to be you.
tulc(would like to point out: this has NEVER been a Christian country no matter how people wish/claim it was )

 

[Rion]

I'm talking about human civilization as a whole. But Native Americans obviously want to preserve their own cultural heritage in their reservations, which I support.

Ah, the Indian Plantations... *shudders*