A question about our words

[Takesha]

As a born again Christian...I believe that by the Stripes of Jesus I have been healed (past tense, already done). However, I have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia and Chronic fatigue syndrome and I don't have the manifestation of that healing yet.

Part of the symptoms that this illness has is cognitive dysfunction and so somtimes my words and thoughts get a little confused.

I don't like saying I am sick....as the Word clearly states that by the stripes of Jesus I was healed.

How would you explain to someone why your so spacey and can't talk straight, or forgetful etc...without saying your sick?

The reason I am asking is because I answered a post the other day and my reply was not to the original poster but to someone else who had also replied. I wanted to apologize to the OP and started to say...doing stuff like this is part of my illness...but I really didn't want to confess that!

If you really believe that we have been healed already but it's not manifested how have you changed your words when you try to share with someone why you have certian physical problems but still believe your healed?

I would really like some feed back.

 

[Lilly of the Valley]

Faith isn't denying your true health condition. You can tell people that you have been diagnosed w/ this, yet say that you believe you are healed. Keep believing in your healing and speaking faith filled words.

 

[Bizzlebin Imperatoris]

Believing in Jesus is not about rewards or happiness here, but in heaven. If you want healing, just pray. But don't lie to yourself.

 

[Blessed2003]

I agree with Bizzlebin. It is that simple. I am not saying do not ask God for a healing in your physical body now, but even if He does not heal you physically, you are healed spiritually. I know that we do not like to believe that sickness and 'death' is a part of the Christian life, but none of us know what will happen in the future, one may be sick and one may not. That in no way implies that one is more of a sinner, or has less faith, sometimes we don't understand, we just are, and we should just accept life is not yet perfect. We are looking for a land with no sickness, no tears, and where justice rules, that is where we are going, it is not here and now.
God Bless

 

[Caelum]

What does salvation and physical health have to do with eachother? I got the flu last week and had no problem telling people I was sick, im not seeing the real problem here.

 

[AngelDancer]

Dear Takesha,

Maybe if I tell you a story about myself it may help (or Not), but here goes...........

8 years ago I was diagnosed with Graves Disease, before I knew I actually had something, I kept telling my christian friends something was wrong, I was having problems with my heart and they just kept telling me it was 'spiritual', blah, blah, blah. They did absolutely nothing constructive to help me. It wasn't until I was in a shopping line that I thought that I was going to have a heart attack. I knew that it wasn't 'spiritual' then! I raced home and rang the doctor who saw me straight away and in 24 hours I was diagnosed.

Point 1: I don't blame them BUT be careful about buying into a fake faith. We are spiritual beings but we still live in physical bodies and we live in a physical world. These kind of 'faith' statements come from the spiritually immature.

I was sick and knew I was sick, I told them I had been diagnosed with an illness and they didn't visit and they didn't even pray. So where was their faith?

Graves Disease is a hyper Thyroid disease, it can be fatal. I didn't know it because I had only seen the Oncologist once, maybe he told me and I was too sick to hear, but one week after being diagnosed I went into Thyroid Toxicosis (this is what kills you). I had no idea that if you didn't get to a hospital where they could overdose you with medication then you will NOT survive.

I was actually booked into a christian conference so I literally dragged myself there hoping for prayer. I never heard one word of the teaching, all night I was waiting for the prayer line. Finally the invitation was given, by the time someone came to pray for me I had slipped into some kind of realm where I couldn't even speak. God had sent a prayer warrior to pray for me (I found out later) when she prayed, electricity filled both of us and we both KNEW that God had done something.

I went home that night and it was the worst night of my life, BUT THAT WAS WHEN I STOOD IN MY FAITH! Because I knew that God had done something. I finally got to sleep and when I woke in the morning, ALL the symptoms were gone and 8 years later I have never had a symptom since. My Oncologist couldn't believe it.

Point 2: When we are sick we have to take it to God and partition Him for healing, sometimes with pleading and tears but not 'pretending that it's already healed, we exercise our 'faith' by believing that He is a faithful Father who will hear and answer. And when His healing comes then we stand in our 'faith' again believing that He has taken care of it.

It can be very scary to be very ill especially when confusion is part of the illness it's O.K. to be afraid. But hold tight, God will help and my husband and I will pray for you.

Angeldancer

 

[bliz]

Takesha -

I'm sorry, I'm having trouble understanding how you have alrady been healed, but now you are clearly suffering the symptoms of a disease. Can you explain this more fully?

I believe that all Christians will be healed, when we enter heaven. We will all have perfect bodies then. I believe that God is capable of healing everyone of anything. I believe that God does not always choose to heal us here on earth, in His infinate wisdom and love.

God's decision to heal or not heal is His decision. While he hears out prayers, and wants us to pray, He will do what He pleases to do. I know these decisions are not arbitrary and they are never unkind. God is not a puppet or a rented magician who must heal when ask Him to. A lack of healing is not a reflection on the quality of our prayers, the state of our spiritual lives or the number of people praying, it is simply God's answer to our question, for the time being. All prayers are answered: yes, no or wait.

But I am well aware that this is a topic of much debate and discussion!

 

[Rafael]

That's a tough question that I've had to deal with, as I had leukemia and a bone marrow transplant that didn't go exactly right. All things work together for good, to those that love God and are the called according to His pupose, and this includes affliction. I've learned more since I went through this than in all the other years of health put together. I have been forced to grow closer to the Lord in all things. Can that be bad? I don't value this life in the flesh as I did before, and a ton of vanity has been dumped from my life. My priorities have changed drastically from what they were before I suffered. So no matter what, all things will turn out for the better if you love God, and the worst disease there is, death, has been defeated. God can and will heal according to His will. We could be called home tomorrow, so trust Him in all things and situations.

Ro 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

 

[12volt_man]

As a born again Christian...I believe that by the Stripes of Jesus I have been healed (past tense, already done). However, I have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia and Chronic fatigue syndrome and I don't have the manifestation of that healing yet.

Part of the symptoms that this illness has is cognitive dysfunction and so somtimes my words and thoughts get a little confused.

I don't like saying I am sick....as the Word clearly states that by the stripes of Jesus I was healed.

Takesha, you are sick and you need to deal with that. The sooner you do learn to deal with that, the more completely you can give it to God and the quicker and more completely He can work in you.

Yes, Isaiah 53:5 does tell us that "by His stripes, we are healed", but you're only quoting half of that verse. If you go back and read the first half, it tells us that it's not talking about being healed of sickness, but of our iniquity and transgressions and for the "chastisement of our peace", that is, to be reconciled to God.

There's nothing wrong with admitting you're sick. Paul did. David did.

If God is made strong in us when we are weak, how do you expect Him to become strong in you if you deny your weaknesses?

Praying for you.

Mike

 

[TheMainException]

by being saved by Christ, that doesn't mean that you are also physically healed. It means that you will go to heaven and are saved from hell. You are healed from your sins, but you can still be sick.

 

[TheMainException]

Just keep praying though no matter what, it does work.

 

[TheMainException]

Continue to pray, it does work.