A Pondering of the Peculiar (3)

FredHoyle said:

Which is exactly what you and all the other creationists here do, all you ever do is talk,

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What do you want us to do here? tap dance or bleed?

AV1611VET said:

In other words, you lost the joy of your salvation?

And instead of praying ...

Psalm 51:12 Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.

... as David did, you sold out to science?

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On the contrary AV, I have more hope and wonder than I've ever had. A new lease on life, if you will allow me to be so cliche. I decided to apply reason and logic to my beliefs and really examine with a critical eye at the actual claims religion and the bible made, and they came up short.

genez said:

You never entered in the first place.

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Then neither did you.*







*shrugs

AV1611VET said:

Paul was certainly correct, ...
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So was mark Twain when he wrote, "faith is believing in something you know ain't true."

genez said:

You got em a dime a dozen. (you paid too much)

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You can't put a price of freedom fries.

FredHoyle said:

Which is exactly what you and all the other creationists here do, all you ever do is talk,

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I suppose all creationists believe the same thing?

you all say this or that is wrong with evolution but you never show why it's wrong, all you ever do is talk,

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Well, it obvious you can not hear *some of the valid points* given by the other side. Its as if your ears have not evolved. I do not agree with young earth creationists and think they have committed intellectual suicide on certain points. Yet, I still can not for the life of me understand how you think evolution was capable of producing all the life we find around us.

As wrong about certain issues I find young earth creationists are about dealing with aspects of the evidence we have around us and as found in the Bible, I still think that atheistic evolution is even more intellectually dishonest and deficient (though smarter with gathering data).

So, your problem is that you approach anyone who believes in creation as they are all of the same thinking. Its not the case. But, your thinking has not evolved enough to know that.

that's all creationists seem to be good for, talking, listening to professional creationists lies and repeating the lies.

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You are either very young and have not been around much... or your position stopped evolving long ago. Which is it?

If creationists were as smart as they think they are they would all be too embarrassed to be creationists.

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Here is something for you to ponder. For its your weakness in action...
You throw at Christians the very things keeps you afraid to open your mind. For, you fear the very kind of ridicule that you dump on those you seek to do likewise. Do you realize that you are herd bound to the secular mind set? That you will stubbornly follow what constitutes the current politically correct belief system? You do. That is not to excuse the herd bound fundies either. But, you both do the same thing.

You would fear and hate the very ostracism and mocking you feel free to send towards those who you perceive in your limited view of creationists. You would fear being seen as stupid by your peers. Its you who are the cowards and afraid to open your minds because you fear too much what will come your way, while needing to work out your position to be consistent. So, you blindly refuse to consider the valid points of those resisting you!

Now... The young earth creations suffer from the same kind of intellectual dishonesty. Both of you end up arguing like two dogs swirling in a perpetual circle, always chasing the other one's "tale." But, never seeing your own!

Do you even know the different positions taken on Creationism?

Not all positions are the same.

Get out more often. That box you sit in and protect your ego with is way too small. Life is to short not to grow.
You are both the same! Only different in the positions you take.

HitchSlap said:

Then neither did you.*
*shrugs

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I am going to answer you from now on with equal shallowness.

HitchSlap said:

On the contrary AV, I have more hope and wonder than I've ever had. A new lease on life..

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You were never saved if that is the case.


You approached Christianity out of curiosity, not relationship. Its having and knowing that very aspect of relationship that forces a believer to know its not make believe...

One cannot understand what he does not possess.

genez said:

If you can not learn the simplest? Why should we venture into the deeper?

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I agree, if your simple arguments fail (which they do), why would anyone take seriously your more complex arguments?

genez said:

You never entered in the first place.

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How do you know this to be true?

genez said:

I suppose all creationists believe the same thing?

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Whatever, thank goodness it's your life we're talking about and not mine.

bhsmte said:

I agree, if your simple arguments fail (which they do), why would anyone take seriously your more complex arguments?

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Obviously, what I said was not simple enough for you. You can't even get that much.

genez said:

Obviously, what I said was not simple enough for you. You can't even get that much.

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Sure Genez, whatever you say.

bhsmte said:

How do you know this to be true?

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Read not just a few words of post 48, and you would not be asking. You're a smart guy, Surprised you missed it.

genez said:

Read not just a few words of post 48, and you would not be asking. You're a smart guy, Surprised you missed it.

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Scripture?

How do you know the scripture is true?

bhsmte said:

Scripture?

How do you know the scripture is true?

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If I told you, you could not believe me.

And, that's the truth.

genez said:

If I told you, you could not believe me.

And, that's the truth.

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Well, that was easy.

FredHoyle said:

Whatever, thank goodness it's your life we're talking about and not mine.

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How does one "thank" goodness?

Tell me something?

When someone sneezes? Do you tell them..."Goodness bless you?"

And, what about?.. Goodness damn it! ... Goodness save the king!

bhsmte said:

Well, that was easy.

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Atheists are easy.. Over simplified. AM with no FM.

genez said:

Atheists are easy.. Over simplified. AM with no FM.

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I rarely listen to FM, so I guess that fits for me.