A Pondering of the Peculiar (2)

[anyathesword]

That worm only lives two miles below the surface. We've dug much deeper that that.

Yes; it's just an example of how science is discovering worms underground. I'm sure they live deeper.

 

[anyathesword]

I appreciate your answer.

Until you have figured that out, I will consider what you are experiencing to be only in your imagination.

It's not in my imagination, it's in my expériences. I have never heard God speak to me, well maybe in dreams.

 

[Herman Hedning]

New "Devil Worm" Is Deepest-Living Animal
Could Worms Deep Below Earth Mean There's Life in Space? - TIME
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/29720/title/Deep-Earth-devil-worms/

The worms are there to feed on the flesh of the people.

You are not saying that these worms inhabit hell, are you? Please say you're not. You did catch that they are only 0.5 mm long, right? That's 0.02 inches for those that are metrically handicapped. And, even if they were found at a surprising depth, it is still only a tiny fraction of the thickness of earths crust.

 

[PsychoSarah]

I wonder if we should just ignore what she says, since she doesn't really listen to us...

 

[selfinflikted]

That's religion. Not Christianity. If you were baptized in the Spirit you would be a Christian. Water baptism was carried over from the tradition of Judaism in the early days of the Church age because that's all they knew. Then water baptism faded out as the new life became better known. Baptist have a hard time with this teaching because it embarrasses them in their strongly felt tradition.

If you were baptized in the Spirit you would have become a new person.

Acts 1:4-5

On one occasion, while he was eating with them,
he gave them this command: “Do not leave Jerusalem,
but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you
have heard me speak about. For John baptized with
water, but in a few days you will be baptized with
the Holy Spirit.”

​

The knuckleheads forgot what he said almost immediately and continued to water baptize for quite some time. It is recorded in Scripture that they did. Many do not realize that it was their error in thinking that was being recorded. Not what we are supposed to be doing in the Church age. The Bible does not try to hide the errors of believers.


Of course. You tried religion that so happens to use the NT Scriptures to wrap themselves in, like fig leaves.






Not when your reward is all about pleasing the Lord of your life. To know you pleased Him will be your reward. We must understand and have the capacity for love in order to appreciate that statement.

You need to think back as a child when you desired the love of an adult you admired. Jesus said that we must become like little children if we are ever to enter into the Kingdom. That does not mean return to being childish. But rather, childlike, as an adult. Young at heart. Not hard hearted and needing some stimulant to make you feel alive. Not heard hearted in demanding attention to feel you are loved. God in the Spirit is that love manifested through you. If you have it. We first need to be truly born again. Then, to learn to become honest about ourselves before the Lord by not denying the Word of God says we are all no good in our natural selves. It requires discipline and honesty in the truth.

That's a lot of work just to try and prove I wasn't a True Christian™.

Besides, AV said to me, "Once saved, always saved." I trust him more than you.

 

[Davian]

That's religion. Not Christianity.
...

If Christianity is not a religion, should it no longer get all of those tax exceptions provided to religions?

Should all of that money be given back?

 

[SkyWriting]

But nothing suggests it is beneath our very feet.

By "nothing", what are you referring to?

Isaiah 14:9 The realm of the dead below is all astir to meet you ...
... Hell below was in an uproar to meet thee at thy coming, it stirred up the
giants for thee. All the princes of the earth are risen ...
//bible.cc/isaiah/14-9

Proverbs 15:24 The path of life leads upward for the prudent to ...
... The path of life for a wise person leads upward in
order to turn him away from hell below. ...
//bible.cc/proverbs/15-24

Deuteronomy 32:22 For a fire will be kindled by my wrath, one that ...
For a fire will be kindled by my wrath, one that burns down to the realm of the
dead below. ... My anger has started a fire that will burn to the depths of hell. ...
//bible.cc/deuteronomy/32-22

Job 11:8 They are higher than the heavens above--what can you do? ...
They are higher than the heavens above--what can you do? They are deeper than the
depths below--what can you know? ... It is deeper than [the depths] of hell. ...
//bible.cc/job/11-8

Amos 9:2 Though they dig down to the depths below, from there my ...
Though they dig down to the depths below, from there my hand will take them ... Though
they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to ...

 

[SkyWriting]

That's a lot of work just to try and prove I wasn't a True Christian™.

Besides, AV said to me, "Once saved, always saved." I trust him more than you.

The "Once" AV refers to is an eternal event. God "always" throughout all time saved you.
All you have to to is accept God's word for it. Salvation is a permanent event.

Only those who reject God's free gift are lost.

 

[AV1611VET]

I am curious genez, would you sacrifice your own eternal paradise so that two people you didn't know would be spared from hell (thus, you would suffer in hell in their place).

Paul would.

Romans 9:3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

 

[Loudmouth]

There is a benefit. If you hold on to something scriptural that you know is true..(it all is).....then eventually the "truth" about what you believe become more evident. This process only works with scripture. Likely because it actually is God's Word to man. The writings are not in their original environment, or even the original language, so the insights available sometimes keep coming for years. My experience anyway.

We've seen how that has worked in the past:

"First, . . . to want to affirm that in reality the sun is at the center of the world and only turns on itself without moving from east to west, and the earth . . . revolves with great speed about the sun . . . is a very dangerous thing, likely not only to irritate all scholastic philosophers and theologians, but also to harm the Holy Faith by rendering Holy Scripture false."--Cardinal Bellarmine, 1615

How is Geocentrism working out?

 

[AV1611VET]

But nothing suggests it is beneath our very feet.

Really?

Proverbs 15:24 The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.

 

[SkyWriting]

We've seen how that has worked in the past:
"First, . . . to want to affirm that in reality the sun is at the center of the world and only turns on itself without moving from east to west, and the earth . . . revolves with great speed about the sun . . . is a very dangerous thing, likely not only to irritate all scholastic philosophers and theologians, but also to harm the Holy Faith by rendering Holy Scripture false."--Cardinal Bellarmine, 1615
How is Geocentrism working out?

Like all of science, it's subject to new information. Whimsy, if you will.
Earth, is the center of all life in the Cosmos.
Even an Atom is asymmetrical, so nothing
physical can really be the center of everything.

But all life is here, so this is the center of everything than counts.

There may be black hole at the geographic center of the cosmos
and the surface of it may have an imprint in 2 dimensions of the
rest of the Cosmos. But that's just a theory.

 

[Loudmouth]

Like all of science, it's subject to new information. Whimsy, if you will.
Earth, is the center of all life in the Cosmos.
Even an Atom is asymmetrical, so nothing
physical can really be the center of everything.

But all life is here, so this is the center of everything than counts.

There may be black hole at the geographic center of the cosmos
and the surface of it may have an imprint in 2 dimensions of the
rest of the Cosmos. But that's just a theory.

Earth isn't even the center of our own Solar system, much less anything else in the cosmos. This was once thought to be heretical, but now it is a common belief among christians. Why can't evolution be the same?

 

[selfinflikted]

Earth isn't even the center of our own Solar system, much less anything else in the cosmos. This was once thought to be heretical, but now it is a common belief among christians. Why can't evolution be the same?

Evolution is a commonly accepted theory among Christians - worldwide. We just have a big problem with it in 'Murica.

 

[Davian]

The "Once" AV refers to is an eternal event. God "always" throughout all time saved you.
All you have to to is accept God's word for it. Salvation is a permanent event.

Only those who reject God's free gift are lost.

It is not free. It comes at the cost of one's intellectual integrity.

 

[SkyWriting]

Earth isn't even the center of our own Solar system, much less anything else in the cosmos.

It's the center of the only thing that matters to us....us.
And that other thingy...ummm...life.
And that handy stuff.......water.
and that annoying stuff.......air.

This was once thought to be heretical, but now it is a common belief among christians. Why can't evolution be the same?

Lucky you, all Christians accept some or all of evolutionary theory.
Note the extensive, page after page, of DNA information.

 

[bhsmte]

You do not know what you ask.

Sure I do, it was a pretty simple question. And, not sure you are in the best position to judge what I know, or don't know.

 

[GenemZ]

Evolution is a commonly accepted theory among Christians - worldwide. We just have a big problem with it in 'Murica.

There is a difference between..."evolution takes place..." And... "evolution started it all."

But, why am I arguing? If you can think all your bodily functions and organs are merely the result of evolution? I won't bother.

 

[GenemZ]

It is not free. It comes at the cost of one's intellectual integrity.

Only if you stopped looking.

Yes, I agree... There are many idiotic fundies out there, and many moronic denominationalists to make matters worse.

That is still no excuse in light of the fact that God will provide teachers who do teach with integrity.

My pastor had a big complaint about most churches. That is... "When you enter that church, you must check your brains at the door." He taught us from the Hebrew, Aramaic, Chaldean, and Greek texts. Presented an equivalent to a PhD in history in his teachings. Yet, the average soul who lacked arrogance? Could over time, grasp what it was he was teaching. That's one amazing aspect of the Grace of God.

 

[Davian]

There is a difference between..."evolution takes place..." And... "evolution started it all."

But, why am I arguing? If you can think all your bodily functions and organs are merely the result of evolution? I won't bother.

Tell me, what do you think they are the result of? Magic?