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It astounds me what lengths you go to just so you do not have to admit that your earlier claims was wrong.
Astounded or not, I do not take my doctrine from prophetic riddles not spoken clearly (Nu 12:6-8).
That's how we got dispensationalism, which contradicts NT apostolic teaching.

I take my doctrine from apostolic didactics., where Jesus is the Word who is God.
 
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I do not take my doctrine from prophetic riddles
be more forthright, what you do is pick and choose what bible passages 'count' or not. This isn't sola scripture, it is just opinion, and the religion it generates is a game.
 
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be more forthright, what you do is pick and choose what bible passages 'count' or not. This isn't sola scripture, it is just opinion, and the religion it generates is a game.
And what you do is let dogma dictate to you how you're supposed to understand scripture.
 
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And what you do is let dogma dictate to you how you're supposed to understand scripture.
Of course! That is exactly why Dogma exists. Dogma is right interpretation in the public arena. It is part of the Apostolic Tradition that the Church preserves for the faithful.
 
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be more forthright, what you do is pick and choose what bible passages 'count' or not. This isn't sola scripture, it is just opinion, and the religion it generates is a game.
Seems you don't know the meaning of Sola Scriptura.

You're outside your lane.
 
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Thank God! I never ever want to be in that shocking "sola scriptura" road that leads to destruction.
Looking forward to you staying in your lane. . .
 
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Of course! That is exactly why Dogma exists. Dogma is right interpretation in the public arena. It is part of the Apostolic Tradition that the Church preserves for the faithful.
Apostolic tradition is what the apostles actually taught (1 Corinthians 11:2).
 
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Thank God! I never ever want to be in that shocking "sola scriptura" road that leads to destruction.
Clare73 is right, you don't seem to know the meaning of Sola Scriptura.. And apparently you've been taught that sticking to the words of Christ and the apostles will send you to Hell.
 
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Apostolic tradition is what the apostles actually taught (1 Corinthians 11:2).
Yes, that is what it is. It is how the apostles interpreted the Old Testament scriptures and how they write the New Testament scriptures and how they taught the bishops to interpret all of the scriptures; Christ is always the centre, always the Word who reveals God, never a book nor an inscription. He is the Living Word of God, and the scriptures are a written record of some of what Christ revealed, perhaps most of what he revealed, though saint John suggests that the whole world be too small to contain all that he did.
 
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Clare73 is right, you don't seem to know the meaning of Sola Scriptura.. And apparently you've been taught that sticking to the words of Christ and the apostles will send you to Hell.
She is rarely right about anything she writes about me. You are also rarely right about that subject matter.
 
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Yes, that is what it is. It is how the apostles interpreted the Old Testament scriptures and how they write the New Testament scriptures and how they taught the bishops to interpret all of the scriptures; Christ is always the centre, always the Word who reveals God, never a book nor an inscription. He is the Living Word of God, and the scriptures are a written record of some of what Christ revealed, perhaps most of what he revealed, though saint John suggests that the whole world be too small to contain all that he did.
Where did Paul say there would be additions to the traditions he passed on to us?
 
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Well since your posts are what we have to go by, I'd say that's your fault.
It's always a bad idea to transfer the blame to the victim of your prejudice.
 
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Where did Paul say there would be additions to the traditions he passed on to us?
Do you think it can't be true unless it is in Paul's letters? Is that some kind of doctrine that you have? It's weird.

2 Thessalonians 3:6-15 LSB Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from every brother who walks in an unruly manner and not according to the tradition which they received from us. (7) For you yourselves know how you ought to imitate us, because we did not act in an unruly manner among you, (8) nor did we eat anyone’s bread without paying for it, but with labor and hardship we kept working night and day so that we would not be a burden to any of you; (9) not because we do not have the authority, but in order to offer ourselves as a model for you, so that you would imitate us. (10) For even when we were with you, we used to command this to you: if anyone is not willing to work, neither let him eat. (11) For we hear that some among you are walking in an unruly manner, doing no work at all, but acting like busybodies. (12) Now such persons we command and exhort in the Lord Jesus Christ, that working with quietness, they eat their own bread. (13) But as for you, brothers, do not lose heart in doing good. (14) And if anyone does not obey our word in this letter, take special note of that person to not associate with him, so that he will be put to shame. (15) And yet do not regard him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.
 
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Jesus is the word Gods words are the Bible. Jesus is the Bible.
What?

Yes, Jesus is the Word.

Yes, the Bible is the word of God.

Therefore, Jesus is the Bible?

?!?!?!!?!
 
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That sir is the sin of Idolatry. The breaking of the first and greatest commandment.
Deuteronomy 5:(6) 'I am the LORD your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. (7) 'You shall have no other gods before Me. (8) 'You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. (9) 'You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, and on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me, (10) but showing lovingkindness to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
Thank you.
 
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What?

Yes, Jesus is the Word.

Yes, the Bible is the word of God.

Therefore, Jesus is the Bible?

?!?!?!!?!
Say rather that Jesus is the Word of God, and the bible is holy scripture. The former must be first in all things while the latter is our joy here on earth.
 
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