A Partial List of 7th Day Assemblies

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LoveGodsWord said:
Actually no you didn't dear friend. You simply agreed with me that there is no scripture that says God's 4th commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day.

Isn't what you wanted to tell me?...and I agreed with it.

It doesn't mean that making Sunday the principal day of worship was wrong, however.

According to the Bible - which day of the week is the Holy Day of the Lord?
Which one is the Sabbath day of worship mentioned in the Commandments of God?

If your response is of the form -- "ok well yeah but that is just the Bible - suppose we choose to make a different day of the week the principal day of worship... well that would be just fine", then where do you find Bible support for such a suggestion?

If not in the Bible then are you not to at that point agreeing with those who are claiming there is no Bible support for it?

what is the "other" choice?



STOP quoting the Old Covenant

That post of mine does not contain a quote of the Old Covenant.

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, when we are under the New,

Fine. Quote the New covenant. So far I am the only one doing it.

The New Covenant says that God writes his LAW (known to Jeremiah and his readers) on heart and mind - under the NEW Covenant.

This may be one reason why the Sabbath POV is the only one where you find an actual quote of the New Covenant on this thread so far.
 
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The 7th day sabbath was created for MAN .... not just jews ... so says Jesus.

Jesus IS GOD.

Mark 2

27Then Jesus declared, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. 28Therefore, the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”

PRE-RESURRECTION! NOT in Acts and after!"
 
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That post of mine does not contain a quote of the Old Covenant.



Fine. Quote the New covenant. So far I am the only one doing it.

The New Covenant says that God writes his LAW (known to Jeremiah and his readers) on heart and mind - under the NEW Covenant.

This may be one reason why the Sabbath POV is the only one where you find an actual quote of the New Covenant on this thread so far.

You being an SDA are in the MINORITY that only recently started this nonsense of 7th day worship. The greater majority of Bible-beliving Christians have ALWAYS worshipped on Sunday. YOU cannot say that all these are wrong, and you right!
 
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All of the NT saints in Jerusalem were "Messianic Jews" keeping the Bible Sabbath

complete RUBBISH! This is heretical teaching. You guys are on here to push your heretical teachings, and then try to say that all those who worship on Sunday will not go to heaven! And yet another heresy that you teach, is that there is no eternal suffering for the lost, against what Jesus Himself says!
 
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You being an SDA are in the MINORITY that only recently started this nonsense of 7th day worship. The greater majority...

Now there is another example of a "not the Bible" argument that would have deleted the entire Christian church at its start if all the Jews had to say to the Christian Jews (such as all the Apostles) - was that they were "in the minority".

And Sabbath keeping has been in God's Word long before there was ever a Seventh-day Adventist
 
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then try to say that all those who worship on Sunday will not go to heaven!

You can't "quote you" and then imagine for us that you are "quoting me".

Would you like a pointer to the actual doctrinal statements of the Adventist church? Do you need some help on this one.??

The Millerites (those following the Baptist minister - William Miller) were all sunday keeping christians. Adventists to this very day insist many of them were Christians and are saved saints..

Adventists themselves were all sunday keeping Christians when this group started --- Adventists to this very day insist many of them were Christians and are saved saints..

Some Adventists would go so far as to say that the larger group of of Christians that are saved are still outside of the Adventist church - though we invite them all to join us.
 
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You can't "quote you" and then imagine for us that you are "quoting me".

Would you like a pointer to the actual doctrinal statements of the Adventist church? Do you need some help on this one.??

The Millerites (those following the Baptist minister - William Miller) were all sunday keeping christians. Adventists to this very day insist many of them were Christians and are saved saints..

Adventists themselves were all sunday keeping Christians when this group started --- Adventists to this very day insist many of them were Christians and are saved saints..

Some Adventists would go so far as to say that the larger group of of Christians that are saved are still outside of the Adventist church - though we invite them all to join us.

do YOU completely deny this HERESY as taught today?

The text reads: “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus” (Rev. 14:12). As we have seen, included in “the commandments of God” is the fourth commandment, concerning the Sabbath, which points to God as the Creator and the One who alone should be worshiped. No wonder, then, that many see the issue of “the mark of the beast” as being directly tied to the question of Sunday worship, a counterfeit “sabbath” that is notcommanded in the Bible, as opposed to keeping the fourth command-ment, which is commanded in the Bible.Does this mean that Christians who worship God on Sunday have the mark of the beast now? No. According to Revelation 13:15, those who refuse to join in this false worship of the beast will be killed. It will eventually become a life-or-death issue. Obviously, though, events have not yet reached that point, and the mark of the beast will not be given until this final test does come. Therefore, no one has yet received the mark of the beast., https://absg.adventist.org/assets/public/files/lessons/2018/2Q/TE/PDFs/ETQ218_11.pdf
 
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What the first few posts on this thread proves - is that Sabbath keeping is not an "SDA-only" doctrine. Simply condemning SDAs when you run out of Bible reasons to oppose the Sabbath does not solve anything.

read what is actually says, "No. According to Revelation 13:15, those who refuse to join in this false worship of the beast will be killed. It will eventually become a life-or-death issue. Obviously, though, events have not yet reached that point, and the mark of the beast will not be given until this final test does come. Therefore, no one has yet received the mark of the beast." which means that those who continue to worship on Sundays will receive the mark of the beast. This is PURE HERESY and from the devil himself!
 
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No wonder, then, that many see the issue of “the mark of the beast” as being directly tied to the question of Sunday worship, a counterfeit “sabbath” that is not commanded in the Bible, as opposed to keeping the fourth commandment, which is commanded in the Bible.Does this mean that Christians who worship God on Sunday have the mark of the beast now? No.

It is true that many do see it that way.
It is also true that those who choose to keep Sunday do not have the mark of the beast.

what else were you expecting?
 
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It is true that many do see it that way.
It is also true that those who choose to keep Sunday do not have the mark of the beast.

what else were you expecting?

don't try to twist what it says, "who worship God on Sunday have the mark of the beast now...Therefore, no one has yet received the mark of the beast.,? " means that later they will!
 
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read what is actually says, "No. According to Revelation 13:15, those who refuse to join in this false worship of the beast will be killed.

You are talking about a future even that the Bible describes like this in Rev 13 -- as IF Rev 13 was written by Adventists - just because Adventists can read it and repeat what it says about this future predicted event.

11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon. 12 He exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And he makes the earth and those who live on it worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed. 13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down out of the sky to the earth in the presence of people. 14 And he deceives those who live on the earth because of the signs which it was given him to perform in the presence of the beast, telling those who live on the earth to make an image to the beast who *had the wound of the sword and has come to life. 15 And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even speak and cause all who do not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 and he decrees that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Clearly some future event happens where all mankind is deceived according to Rev 13 and those powers that will be in control at that time make worship a matter of life and death -- according to Rev 13.

That much is not even controversial.

by contrast in the very next chapter -- Rev 14 we find this

Rev 14
6 And I saw another angel flying in midheaven with an eternal gospel to preach to those who live on the earth, and to every nation, tribe, language, and people; 7 and he said with a loud voice, “Fear God and give Him glory, because the hour of His judgment has come; worship Him who made the heaven and the earth, and sea and springs of waters.”

12 Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.

Reading the text does not make you a heretic.
 
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You are talking about a future even that the Bible describes like this in Rev 13 -- as IF Rev 13 was written by Adventists - just because Adventists can read it and repeat what it says about this future predicted event.

11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon. 12 He exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And he makes the earth and those who live on it worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed. 13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down out of the sky to the earth in the presence of people. 14 And he deceives those who live on the earth because of the signs which it was given him to perform in the presence of the beast, telling those who live on the earth to make an image to the beast who *had the wound of the sword and has come to life. 15 And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even speak and cause all who do not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 and he decrees that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Clearly some future event happens where all mankind is deceived according to Rev 13 and those powers that will be in control at that time make worship a matter of life and death -- according to Rev 13.

That much is not even controversial.

by contrast in the very next chapter -- Rev 14 we find this

Rev 14
6 And I saw another angel flying in midheaven with an eternal gospel to preach to those who live on the earth, and to every nation, tribe, language, and people; 7 and he said with a loud voice, “Fear God and give Him glory, because the hour of His judgment has come; worship Him who made the heaven and the earth, and sea and springs of waters.”

12 Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.

Reading the text does not make you a heretic.

is this right or wrong?

https://ssnet.org/blog/thursday-mark-of-beast/
 
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don't try to twist what it says, "who worship God on Sunday have the mark of the beast now...Therefore, no one has yet received the mark of the beast.,? " means that later they will!

If I were to predict that some day in the future things will get so messed up that whoever wears red shoes will be killed or will receive the mark of the beast - and someone has a completely different view of the future - they can always so that the future I think will come some day - will never arrive.
 
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Bond-servant of Christ said: Show from the NT that after the Resurrection of Jesus, that the Disciples kept the 7th day. There are a number of verses that show the first day is when they met. Starting with the Day of Pentecost
My response to your post above here...
LoveGodsWord wrote: No problem, thanks for asking. The disciples met everyday of the week *Acts of the Apostles 2:46-47 and also kept the Sabbath. Acts of the Apostles 13:14; 13:27; 13:44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4; Rev 1:10.
Your response here ....
Nowhere in these verse does it say that Christians met on the 7th day, what they do say is the they took the Gospel to the Jews on this day!
Not really dear friend. All the scriptures listed above show the disciples meeting together everyday of the week to break bread (have a meal) and also shows them keeping the Sabbath according to the commandment. The Sabbath is defined in scripture as "the seventh day" of the week *Exodus 20:10.

Hope this helps
 
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You being an SDA are in the MINORITY that only recently started this nonsense of 7th day worship. The greater majority of Bible-beliving Christians have ALWAYS worshipped on Sunday. YOU cannot say that all these are wrong, and you right!
I like this post as it matches with these scripture here...

Revelation 12:17 [17], And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the REMNANT OF HER SEED WHICH KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Revelation 14:12, HERE IS THE PATIENCE OF THE SAINTS: HERE ARE THEY THAT KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, AND THE FAITH OF JESUS

Revelation 22:14, BLESSED ARE THEY THAT DO HIS COMMANDMENTS, THAT THEY MAY HAVE RIGHT TO THE TREE OF LIFE, AND MAY ENTER IN THROUGH THE GATES INTO THE CITY.

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Guess we should not cast in our lot with the many being called but be with the few that are chosen (the remnant). Best to find the narrow gate that leads to life and the few that find it then the wide gate that leads to destruction that the many enter. Only God's Word is true. The question we should ask ourselves is who do we believe and follow?
 
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The 4th Commandment has not been part of the Church age

Wow I guess I got my answer now to the question in post #11

Daniel 7:25
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws:

Matthew 7:13
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
 
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Well, I'd be interested to know if that's true or not.

It's almost guaranteed to be true, if you include everyone in "the Hebrew roots" movement, which in the last 20 years is including many Pentecostals and "nondenominational" Charismatics (people who are into rabbi Cahn of Harbinger fame).
 
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