A new CF, an old vision (4)

[uberd00b]

They SHOULD be able to force them to change it... If you aren't a Christian, you shouldn't be allowed to post under the tag that you are.

The point is though, and I think this was Erwins idea correct me if I'm wrong, that only God can judge who is a Christian or not. It is not up to individual Christians to judge who or who is not. This strikes me as a very Christian attitude.

Already earlier in the thread we've had people say they were labled "not true Christians" by their Christian brothers and sisters, and driven away from the site because of it.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

I agree too. It's not that simple is it.

The point is though, and I think this was Erwins idea correct me if I'm wrong, that only God can judge who is a Christian or not. It is not up to individual Christians to judge who or who is not. This strikes me as a very Christian attitude.

Already earlier in the thread we've had people say they were labled "not true Christians" by their Christian brothers and sisters, and driven away from the site because of it.

It's not for one person to say. That's far too much power.

 

[Brimshack]

No Devin, it is Erwin's site. You and I are both members of that site. I am no more nor less a member than you, and that was as true when I first signed up for this site as it is today.

And I AM posting by Erwin's rules.

You may feel entitled to leverage over me, and your post clearly demands just that, but what you cannot do is pretend that such leverage is necessary. Your faith is no more harmed by these rules than they are by a spring storm. Only your pride, and your need to mark the difference. That is the only thing threatened by this action.

And, no, Erwin's reforms do not make this a secular site. It is still devoted to Jesus. It is still a Christian site, and its power still rests in the hands of Christians. It hasn't been given a new purpose, nor was its mission revised to promote secular thoughts. If there is truth to your views, this site facilitates that truth every bit as easily today as it did a week ago. What you've lost are the trappings of worldly power, no more and no less. And the loss of that worldly power is precisely what has you angry here. No more and no less.

 

[uberd00b]

No Devin, it is Erwin's site. You and I are both members of that site. I am no more nor less a member than you, and that was as true when I first signed up for this site as it is today.

And I AM posting by Erwin's rules.

You may feel entitled to leverage over me, and your post clearly demands just that, but what you cannot do is pretend that such leverage is necessary. Your faith is no more harmed by these rules than they are by a spring storm. Only your pride, and your need to mark the difference. That is the only thing threatened by this action.

And, no, Erwin's reforms do not make this a secular site. It is still devoted to Jesus. It is still a Christian site, and its power still rests in the hands of Christians. It hasn't been given a new purpose, nor was its mission revised to promote secular thoughts. If there is truth to your views, this site facilitates that truth every bit as easily today as it did a week ago. What you've lost are the trappings of worldly power, no more and no less. And the loss of that worldly power is precisely what has you angry here. No more and no less.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Brimshack again.

 

[88Devin07]

You, are a NON CHRISTIAN on a CHRISTIAN forum... Unless Erwin wants to make this a Secular forum, you are secondary to us Christians on this site...

But I do hear there are better forums out there than this...

Erwin, you are losing A LOT of Christian forumers through this move...

 

[Lindon Tinuviel]

Erwin, being the owner of the largest christian forum does NOT give you the right to change the definition of Christianity. Constantine at least had council that made decisions. This isn't your God given right. I don't know why you can't see that.
Jesus died, the Pharisee's killed Him. So I can see your plan working, unfortunately, but you have no right and do you really want to be the new Pontius Pilete, or the greater than Constantine? Have a council decide, of church leaders.

Erwin hasn't changed the definition of anything.

He is simply leaving the claim to Christianity open, as he feels that he cannot accurately judge another's heart or mind.

Neither can you, nor anyone you know.

The definition has not changed, so anyone claiming the label will have their words judged by that standard.

 

[Servant222]

The best political system in the world is a benevolent dictatorship. The worst is a tyrannical dictatorship.

Democracy is not as good as a benevolent dictatorship, but overall, as Winston Churchill stated, is the best political system there is.

This Internet Forum should be run like a democracy- it should be given to an interdenominational Christian body to administer.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

No Devin, it is Erwin's site. You and I are both members of that site. I am no more nor less a member than you, and that was as true when I first signed up for this site as it is today.

And I AM posting by Erwin's rules.

You may feel entitled to leverage over me, and your post clearly demands just that, but what you cannot do is pretend that such leverage is necessary. Your faith is no more harmed by these rules than they are by a spring storm. Only your pride, and your need to mark the difference. That is the only thing threatened by this action.

And, no, Erwin's reforms do not make this a secular site. It is still devoted to Jesus. It is still a Christian site, and its power still rests in the hands of Christians. It hasn't been given a new purpose, nor was its mission revised to promote secular thoughts. If there is truth to your views, this site facilitates that truth every bit as easily today as it did a week ago. What you've lost are the trappings of worldly power, no more and no less. And the loss of that worldly power is precisely what has you angry here. No more and no less.

Like MiracleStorm's concern , iow christian's will stayb/c their concerned for the unsuspecting, but decietfulness isn't good, no matter what

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

No Devin, it is Erwin's site. You and I are both members of that site. I am no more nor less a member than you, and that was as true when I first signed up for this site as it is today.

And I AM posting by Erwin's rules.

You may feel entitled to leverage over me, and your post clearly demands just that, but what you cannot do is pretend that such leverage is necessary. Your faith is no more harmed by these rules than they are by a spring storm. Only your pride, and your need to mark the difference. That is the only thing threatened by this action.

And, no, Erwin's reforms do not make this a secular site. It is still devoted to Jesus. It is still a Christian site, and its power still rests in the hands of Christians. It hasn't been given a new purpose, nor was its mission revised to promote secular thoughts. If there is truth to your views, this site facilitates that truth every bit as easily today as it did a week ago. What you've lost are the trappings of worldly power, no more and no less. And the loss of that worldly power is precisely what has you angry here. No more and no less.

Erwin hasn't changed the definition of anything.

He is simply leaving the claim to Christianity open, as he feels that he cannot accurately judge another's heart or mind.

Neither can you, nor anyone you know.

The definition has not changed, so anyone claiming the label will have their words judged by that standard.

He insults every Christian by not changing the name

 

[88Devin07]

And Non-christians Should Not Mod A Christian Site

 

[Servant222]

Of course, as of today, if you believe the Pope, you aren't a true Christian unless you belong to the Catholic church.

 

[Miracle Storm]

Erwin hasn't changed the definition of anything.

He is simply leaving the claim to Christianity open, as he feels that he cannot accurately judge another's heart or mind.

Neither can you, nor anyone you know.

The definition has not changed, so anyone claiming the label will have their words judged by that standard.

All the while leading others astray....
Teens, babes in Christ, those who are having trouble with their faith and looking for anything to fill the void..

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Of course, as of today, if you believe the Pope, you aren't a true Christian unless you belong to the Catholic church.

The pope or Erwin, nice choose

 

[Miracle Storm]

And Non-christians Should Not Mod A Christian Site

 

[Lindon Tinuviel]

All the while leading others astray....
Teens, babes in Christ, those who are having trouble with their faith and looking for anything to fill the void..

That's their millstone to wear, not yours.

 

[Lindon Tinuviel]

And Non-christians Should Not Mod A Christian Site

Why not?

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

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That's their millstone to wear, not yours.

That's true. It won't take long for word to get to the masses and God help whoever else shows up. I can't see it lasting long in it's choaotic state anyway, and Christians need to protect themselves by taking the rest God is giving them. It's ciberspace,fcol, lots to do in your backyard.

 

[88Devin07]

because This Is A Christian Site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not A Non-christian Site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Brimshack]

You, are a NON CHRISTIAN on a CHRISTIAN forum... Unless Erwin wants to make this a Secular forum, you are secondary to us Christians on this site...

But I do hear there are better forums out there than this...

Erwin, you are losing A LOT of Christian forumers through this move...

Yes, I am a non-Christian on a Christian site, and I have accepted whatever restictions were placed on me for that reason, as I will accept the limitations of debate in the future.

If, however, you think this means that I am secondary to you (and note that is exactly what you said), then you have long since sold out your own faith to raw power. If such authority is the only manner by which you can imagine the pursuit of a Christian website, then you have an awfully narrow range of vision.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

because This Is A Christian Site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not A Non-christian Site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No it's Erwin's site and His new religion