A new CF, an old vision (4)

[Erwin]

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[JimfromOhio]

Has anyone else not noticed ANY change in the fora they post in in the post apocolyptic after math??

What difference does it make worrying about how you'd have liked it all to be executed? This is how it is- just focus on how you want to choose to respond and deal with that reality.

We are easy prey to fretfulness when our gaze are fixed CF's future rather than trusting God.

Philippians 4:6
(The Message) Don't fret or worry. Instead of worrying, pray. Let petitions and praises shape your worries into prayers, letting God know your concerns.

 

[Rochir]

First? ... Awwww, no!

 

[JimfromOhio]

First? ... Awwww, no!

Nah... I beat ya. LOL

 

[Swart]

Dang! Not even the first for this one.

 

[Letalis]

Still arguing it out?

 

[Yeshuasteddy]

ya know jim, i cheked ya out. when ya left, ya raised a royla stink bout it. threads, announcements all over the place. good on yer.

if yer super strong in yer faith, thats wonderful. but yer not givin a second of thought to the young christians and ppl who are sufferin now.

too busy informin ppl yer back and hmm... decidin you may become a moderator now... navel-gazin nonsense mate.

 

[Rochir]

Dang! Not even the first for this one.

Neener, neener!

 

[ScottishJohn]

again, what woulda been wrong with him actually takin the time to work out the nuances of it? how was guttin it completely the best way forward?

Erwin is one man, and he has made huge efforts to allow others to steer the direction of this site over the past few years, He has done everything including apparently taking a back seat on his own site. He thinks, and I am inclined to agree with him, that this has not produced the desired results, and will never produce the desired results. Given that his time is not limitless, and CF is not his only commitment, he has chosen to make some unilateral changes. Time will tell whether this will bring us closer to the desired vision, but it is not the changes alone which will make the real difference. It is also the attitude of each one of us posting here. Any attempt to do anything with this site could be undermined and sabotaged by those who wish to see it fail. If we value CF, I think we try and give it the best chance of success we can, and reevaluate as we go along. After all, we are now for the first time ever going to be able to influence what direction this site takes. Personally my own concern is not that it will be too open and free, but that once the site is rejigged, those of us who prefer to hide behind rules and legalism will pull the shutters down again and take us somewhere worse.

ppl are justifiably scared.

I think that is a little dramatic. This is a message board. What is there to be afraid of?

and they're bein told if they leave theyre in the wrong.

I think condemning something before you know what it is is wrong. However, people are free to come and go as they please, what is wrong is the attitude with which many are leaving. Many of the parting words we have seen on this thread have not been particularly kind ones.

that sort of lack of love is as bad as it was before.

It is not my intention to show a lack of love, and I apologise if that is how I come across. I'm just saddened by the hostility that so many of my brothers and sisters in Christ are displaying over this issue, and I want to call them on it, but I want to do it gently and with love.

 

[*Starlight*]

New thread!

*throws confetti over everyone here*

 

[RoseofLima]

well i dont have a regular forum but knowin ppl are leavin in pain dont sit too well with me. it shouldnt sit well with anyone. christian or non.

erwins new way is actually more divisive by STATUTE. and by sayin you couldnt care less if ppl leave, that its makin no difference to YOUR experience here, yer just supportin the division.

You are aware that there have been many people leaving in pain from CF for a long time, right??

I don't care if people leave CF, if that's what they feel called to do by conviction of the Holy Spirit.

 

[JimfromOhio]

ya know jim, i cheked ya out. when ya left, ya raised a royla stink bout it. threads, announcements all over the place. good on yer.

if yer super strong in yer faith, thats wonderful. but yer not givin a second of thought to the young christians and ppl who are sufferin now.

too busy informin ppl yer back and hmm... decidin you may become a moderator now... navel-gazin nonsense mate.

Bad things happen to everybody because we are living in a sinful world.

 

[Rochir]

Nah... I beat ya. LOL

*shakes fist* Next time, pal. NEXT TIME!!!!

 

[ContentInHim]

If you don't have the Holy Spirit within you, you can't.

You can't study the Scriptures without the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the key. Faith comes as a result of the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit-He quickens our hearts to believe. Apart from the new birth, there can be no true faith. Without the Holy Spirit, our faith and our spiritual growth is NOTHING except dead fruit. Through the Holy Spirit, God's grace gave us the strength.

Aarrgghh - so many post to respond to on the old thread!

Jim, I totally agree that you cannot understand scripture without the Holy Spirit, but do you understand that with only the Holy Spirit you might drift away?

I'm with Yeshuasteddy on this - this thread is all about you, according to you. I want it to be all about what CF was supposed to be about - Jesus!

 

[Pogue]

*subscribery*

 

[Swart]

So. What's the consensus from the "End of the world camp?" Who's the biggest threat to CF? The evil mormons, the permissive pagans, the nasty non-nicenes, the skeptical atheists or the dolphin spouses?

 

[JimfromOhio]

You are aware that there have been many people leaving in pain from CF for a long time, right??

I don't care if people leave CF, if that's what they feel called to do by conviction of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Rochir]

New thread!

*throws confetti over everyone here*

You'll clean that up, right?

 

[TheBear]

ya know jim, i cheked ya out. when ya left, ya raised a royla stink bout it. threads, announcements all over the place. good on yer.

if yer super strong in yer faith, thats wonderful. but yer not givin a second of thought to the young christians and ppl who are sufferin now.

too busy informin ppl yer back and hmm... decidin you may become a moderator now... navel-gazin nonsense mate.

I don't think people will give much credibility to someone who just joined CF, and all post have been in this thread alone.

I'm with Lisa. Some Christians are using deception.....not something I'd want from a message board staff member.

 

[JimfromOhio]

So. What's the consensus from the "End of the world camp?" Who's the biggest threat to CF? The evil mormons, the permissive pagans, the nasty non-nicenes, the skeptical atheists or the dolphin spouses?

I never had problems with atheists or anyone but CHRISTIANS in CF.