A new CF, an old vision (3)

[ProdicalChristian]

There is head knowledge, head and heart and just heart knowledge. In knowing God (not just about Him) the heart must be involved. A.W. Tozer

Humility is the only state of mind in which to approach the Scriptures. The Spirit will teach the humble soul those things that make for his salvation and for a holy walk and fruitful service here below. And little else matters. A.W. Tozer

By A.W. Tozer about Christian Unity and Forgiveness Inward Friction​

But there is another kind of friction which retards spiritual progress and does real injury to the soul. It is the friction created by inward maladjustment. Our Lord had this in mind when He spoke of the value of the "single eye," and James referred to the same thing when he told of the wavering man of double mind who was unstable in all his ways. While the heart is at cross-purposes with itself, there can be no inward harmony, only discord and carnal heat that slowly wear out the life. One source of friction is resentfulness. To hold bad feeling against another is to put the brakes on; no matter how sincerely we desire to go on in the holy way, we are held back by the grinding of resentment within us. Morally resentment is static and will brake to a stop any soul that will harbor it. It is vitally important to remove the pressure that is checking forward motion. This we can do by forgiving our enemies and taking pardon and cleansing from the Lord. To name all the possible causes of inward friction would be to list the works of the flesh in their entirety. The flesh warreth against the spirit: that is, it seeks to stop the motions of the growing heart and bring it to a standstill. Or, failing that, it will put as much pressure as possible on the life and slow its progress as much as it can. The sad thing is that so many of us seem willing to let things go on that way. We "grovel here below," creeping forward painfully and at a snail's pace, when we might be racing unhindered toward the prize. Let's check up on ourselves. Possibly we may need to take the brakes off.​

 

[Lisa0315]

There is head knowledge, head and heart and just heart knowledge. In knowing God (not just about Him) the heart must be involved. A.W. Tozer

Humility is the only state of mind in which to approach the Scriptures. The Spirit will teach the humble soul those things that make for his salvation and for a holy walk and fruitful service here below. And little else matters. A.W. Tozer

By A.W. Tozer about Christian Unity and Forgiveness Inward Friction​

But there is another kind of friction which retards spiritual progress and does real injury to the soul. It is the friction created by inward maladjustment. Our Lord had this in mind when He spoke of the value of the "single eye," and James referred to the same thing when he told of the wavering man of double mind who was unstable in all his ways. While the heart is at cross-purposes with itself, there can be no inward harmony, only discord and carnal heat that slowly wear out the life. One source of friction is resentfulness. To hold bad feeling against another is to put the brakes on; no matter how sincerely we desire to go on in the holy way, we are held back by the grinding of resentment within us. Morally resentment is static and will brake to a stop any soul that will harbor it. It is vitally important to remove the pressure that is checking forward motion. This we can do by forgiving our enemies and taking pardon and cleansing from the Lord. To name all the possible causes of inward friction would be to list the works of the flesh in their entirety. The flesh warreth against the spirit: that is, it seeks to stop the motions of the growing heart and bring it to a standstill. Or, failing that, it will put as much pressure as possible on the life and slow its progress as much as it can. The sad thing is that so many of us seem willing to let things go on that way. We "grovel here below," creeping forward painfully and at a snail's pace, when we might be racing unhindered toward the prize. Let's check up on ourselves. Possibly we may need to take the brakes off.​

 

[laddie1]

Heh, yeah.

I hope this gives us all some time relax and see what transpires.

1. The first stage is the CULTURE change stage. This is going to start happening from TODAY but will be an ongoing process. This will involve:

c. Changing the way moderators are appointed - the members decide! There will be forum moderators, category moderators, and then super moderators. Members nominated, members vote, members appointed. Appointments are for a 12 months - at the end, can be renominated, or not. The power is with the people. And yes, if you are not a Christian, you can be on staff, if people vote for you to do so. The whole process will be open, transparent, and clear. What about current staff? They will all have to be renominated and voted in at some stage.

Stage one starts now.

Letalis,
Dude, do tell...how'd you become a mod overnight???? You weren't one yesterday. Is this a new CF or isn't it?

C'mon be open and honest guy....no secrets. ...out with it.

Tell us, who brought you on staff?

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

There is head knowledge, head and heart and just heart knowledge. In knowing God (not just about Him) the heart must be involved. A.W. Tozer

Humility is the only state of mind in which to approach the Scriptures. The Spirit will teach the humble soul those things that make for his salvation and for a holy walk and fruitful service here below. And little else matters. A.W. Tozer

By A.W. Tozer about Christian Unity and Forgiveness Inward Friction​

But there is another kind of friction which retards spiritual progress and does real injury to the soul. It is the friction created by inward maladjustment. Our Lord had this in mind when He spoke of the value of the "single eye," and James referred to the same thing when he told of the wavering man of double mind who was unstable in all his ways. While the heart is at cross-purposes with itself, there can be no inward harmony, only discord and carnal heat that slowly wear out the life. One source of friction is resentfulness. To hold bad feeling against another is to put the brakes on; no matter how sincerely we desire to go on in the holy way, we are held back by the grinding of resentment within us. Morally resentment is static and will brake to a stop any soul that will harbor it. It is vitally important to remove the pressure that is checking forward motion. This we can do by forgiving our enemies and taking pardon and cleansing from the Lord. To name all the possible causes of inward friction would be to list the works of the flesh in their entirety. The flesh warreth against the spirit: that is, it seeks to stop the motions of the growing heart and bring it to a standstill. Or, failing that, it will put as much pressure as possible on the life and slow its progress as much as it can. The sad thing is that so many of us seem willing to let things go on that way. We "grovel here below," creeping forward painfully and at a snail's pace, when we might be racing unhindered toward the prize. Let's check up on ourselves. Possibly we may need to take the brakes off.​

Doublemindedness comes from believing the devils lies about the harmlessness of the world while professing adherence to the things of God.

"don't shot, please!"

 

[ChaliceThunder]

of course they will...it's kinda like when you went off to college...no one around anymore to tell you what to do.

You can do and say what you want, when you want, and how you want to do it with no repercussion.

Welcome to Hell, my friends.

Sorry, but that's just the way it is.



You can't just automatically trust someone you don't know. Nor do we blindly follow someone just b/c they "own" a website. Besides, there's a million other forums going on outside of this one with the SAME posters.

CF is a stumbling block and will continue to be. The name needs to be changed.

While I have found a number of Christians here at CF to be stumbling blocks, I think the site as a whole has been a producer of great light. I have met some wonderful friends who have changed my outlook on conservative Christianity.

(*you know who you are, and I love you!! )

 

[MrJim]

There is head knowledge, head and heart and just heart knowledge. In knowing God (not just about Him) the heart must be involved. A.W. Tozer

Humility is the only state of mind in which to approach the Scriptures. The Spirit will teach the humble soul those things that make for his salvation and for a holy walk and fruitful service here below. And little else matters. A.W. Tozer

By A.W. Tozer about Christian Unity and Forgiveness Inward Friction​

But there is another kind of friction which retards spiritual progress and does real injury to the soul. It is the friction created by inward maladjustment. Our Lord had this in mind when He spoke of the value of the "single eye," and James referred to the same thing when he told of the wavering man of double mind who was unstable in all his ways. While the heart is at cross-purposes with itself, there can be no inward harmony, only discord and carnal heat that slowly wear out the life. One source of friction is resentfulness. To hold bad feeling against another is to put the brakes on; no matter how sincerely we desire to go on in the holy way, we are held back by the grinding of resentment within us. Morally resentment is static and will brake to a stop any soul that will harbor it. It is vitally important to remove the pressure that is checking forward motion. This we can do by forgiving our enemies and taking pardon and cleansing from the Lord. To name all the possible causes of inward friction would be to list the works of the flesh in their entirety. The flesh warreth against the spirit: that is, it seeks to stop the motions of the growing heart and bring it to a standstill. Or, failing that, it will put as much pressure as possible on the life and slow its progress as much as it can. The sad thing is that so many of us seem willing to let things go on that way. We "grovel here below," creeping forward painfully and at a snail's pace, when we might be racing unhindered toward the prize. Let's check up on ourselves. Possibly we may need to take the brakes off.​

cool quote

yer posts are a little seebish; he should be here

 

[Brimshack]

It turns out that Progical Christian from a bit south of Seebs.

 

[ProdicalChristian]

Doublemindedness comes from believing the devils lies about the harmlessness of the world while professing adherence to the things of God.

"don't shot, please!"

I agree....

Many will proclaim to be a Christian but only few are really Christians. There are millions of professing Christians who think they have been justified, who think their sins are forgiven and that they are on their way to heaven, who show no evidence of the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit in their lives. Many Christians are unthinkably horrified when a real sinner is suddenly discovered among the righteous. So we remain alone with our sin, living in lies and hypocrisy. There are many who profess to follow Christ seem to be unyielding to God's Word because they prefer to be surrounded by teachers who will tell them exactly what they want to hear. In 2 Timothy 4:3, "For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear."

 

[Letalis]

Letalis,
Dude, do tell...how'd you become a mod overnight???? You weren't one yesterday. Is this a new CF or isn't it?

C'mon be open and honest guy....no secrets. ...out with it.

Tell us, who brought you on staff?

I asked to help out during the interim.

 

[Lisa0315]

Letalis,
Dude, do tell...how'd you become a mod overnight???? You weren't one yesterday. Is this a new CF or isn't it?

C'mon be open and honest guy....no secrets. ...out with it.

Tell us, who brought you on staff?

This makes me want to create a second account. How do you know so much about Letalis when you are a "newbie" yourself? hmm...

I think I am going to be a single guy next time and find out what all the men folks talk about.

Lisa (Soon to be Larry!)

Lisa

 

[Lisa0315]

It turns out that Progical Christian from a bit south of Seebs.

Shush yo mowth, honey. Lawls!

Lisa

 

[ProdicalChristian]

It turns out that Progical Christian from a bit south of Seebs.

LOL

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

I agree....

Many will proclaim to be a Christian but only few are really Christians. There are millions of professing Christians who think they have been justified, who think their sins are forgiven and that they are on their way to heaven, who show no evidence of the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit in their lives. Many Christians are unthinkably horrified when a real sinner is suddenly discovered among the righteous. So we remain alone with our sin, living in lies and hypocrisy. There are many who profess to follow Christ seem to be unyielding to God's Word because they prefer to be surrounded by teachers who will tell them exactly what they want to hear. In 2 Timothy 4:3, "For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear."

And this is how you think it can be remedied, the new cf? sphw

 

[ProdicalChristian]

And this is how you think it can be remedied, the new cf? sphw

Ummm...

The Holy Spirit.

 

[CrusaderKing]

I think I am going to be a single guy next time and find out what all the men folks talk about.

Do I have some stories to tell you, Larry!

 

[EdmundBlackadderTheThird]

And this is how you think it can be remedied, the new cf? sphw

This may not be the remedy but it is better than what was here. Fewer people will be hurt by an open system and freedom than by a closed system and policing with no accountability.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

I have to admit that caused me to raise my eyebrows as well. However, he did say that it was between that person and God.

I honestly think that Erwin is taking the stance that CF will no longer define anything Christian. He just gave that as an example.

Remember, though, each forum will be able to form its own rules and we the membership will make the forum policy. So, if it comes down to it, we the membership, do not have to allow the same sex marriage rings. In reality, we the membership now rule the site, not Erwin, not Alpha, not moderators.

That is the beauty of the idea.

Lisa

Exactly.

It is not (and never was) our job in life to define Christianity for any other follower of Christ.

We are to live our own lives as a definition of Christianity. Hopefully that will bring others to know Him and love Him.

Pointing out who is and who is not a Christian is not a part of the Great Commission, and not a part of Baptismal vows or theology.

Erwin's vision reflects this beautifully, and I hope people will learn to live it in these forums.

BTW - I think it's fantastic Lisa keeps calling us back to the central act of forgiveness. (You rock, sistah!)

 

[ProdicalChristian]

And this is how you think it can be remedied, the new cf? sphw

You know me under my old username. You never had problems with my posts until now. LOL

 

[ChaliceThunder]

While we are waiting for those catching up with the thread.......

Did anyone figured out who I am ?

Tease!

Are ya going to give us a clue??

 

[Garnet2727]

You know, one of the things we Christians are really, really going to have to work on is treating each other with respect. Remember that non-believers will be able to watch our every move now. How we handle disagreements can be a witness of Christ in of itself.

Do you know what will hurt the cause of Christ more than a liberalization of CF? Infighting. It MUST stop!

Lisa

Speaking only for myself...

I've always been able to watch...and I always have. My reading on CF has never been limited to the non-Christian areas. Particularly when I still had an interest in Bible study.