A new CF, an old vision (2)

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Exactly. CF as of yesterday was already a place for non-believers AND believers. But if you are a believer and wanted a resting place, or encouraged etc, you could do that without fear of someone coming in just saying "Prayer's a waste of time. Try....." or "Why do you bother being a Christian?"

If you were a non-believer, you could disrupt outside of the Christian section, and "under" [supposed] Christian mods. Or, there were sections for seekers to ask questions of believers.

Now, anyone can go anywhere. Disrupt if you want. Why would non-believing mods care? They wouldn't!

Exactly, there's no reason for beleiver's to want to be here.

 

[Babymine]

Have Mercy! What is happening in these threads is so ugly and disheartening! People rising up against one another. Who knew that Uniting All Christians would end up like this?

what a way to go...

 

[xapis]

Can we vote for a new site admin, too? Why not go all out, huh?

drstevej — are you running?

 

[Naomi4Christ]

liberals and atheists will enjoy this new CF , but conservatives and Evangelicals will not.

I'm an evangelical and am very excited about the step change in the forum

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Can we vote for a new site admin, too? Why not go all out, huh?

drstevej — are you running?

m'bad I'm in!

 

[Romanseight2005]

I have the most concern in areas that are nondenomination specific, but christian only, like the Christian Advice thread. People go there who are hurting, and both need, and are seeking scriptural advice. Let's say a woman is hurting because her family was broken up over porn, or something like that, and someone can come in there and tell her porn is ok. Who will get to moderate these forums? Since they are not denomination specific, who will decide the rules?

 

[ProdicalChristian]

Of course - and you can certainly discuss your beliefs.

BUT - as is happening in different countries. Will you be allowed to speak what the Bible actually says? Or will your posts be removed as a type of hate speech? Will you, as another post said, be able to get past just the Bible being the Word of God?

Will there just be a lot of [whoevers] coming in, getting each other to support each other, become mods, and work from the inside to just disrupt the whole forum?

Tell me how, as of yesterday, CF wasn't welcoming to non-believers? How were they not being reached if they had questions?

I don't know, Biblically, the Apostles and disciples faced harsh crowds. Why should we limit ourselves?

Acts 14:19
Then some Jews came from Antioch and Iconium and won the crowd over. They stoned Paul and dragged him outside the city, thinking he was dead.

Acts 16:22
The crowd joined in the attack against Paul and Silas, and the magistrates ordered them to be stripped and beaten.

Acts 8:4
[ Philip in Samaria ] Those who had been scattered preached the word wherever they went.

 

[Abiel]

Exactly. CF as of yesterday was already a place for non-believers AND believers. But if you are a believer and wanted a resting place, or encouraged etc, you could do that without fear of someone coming in just saying "Prayer's a waste of time. Try....." or "Why do you bother being a Christian?"

If you were a non-believer, you could disrupt outside of the Christian section, and "under" [supposed] Christian mods. Or, there were sections for seekers to ask questions of believers.

Now, anyone can go anywhere. Disrupt if you want. Why would non-believing mods care? They wouldn't!

Except of course there are going to be rules. And the rules may well disallow disruptive behaviour.

'welcome to our house. Please take your shoes off at the door, and keep your feet off the furniture. Do you want tea or coffee? Remember to use a mat.'

 

[meant4worship]

Good mornin!!

I gave up a few hours ago and decided to get a little sleep. I prayed as I was drifting off that others would sleep as well and that level headedness would begin to come back into focus with some rest. Often feelings and emotions can run at extremely high levels when we are tired.

I woke and jumped in to find that not much has changed. Debate is good. Someone mentioned earlier about iron sharpening iron and I believe if we set aside our own agendas we will find a beautiful opportunity for growth in the change.

Let me take a moment to again admonish you, as I did last night... the enemy in this battle is not each other. It is not the flesh and blood you see represented on these pages. This debate and the emotions it is inciting are exactly what the enemy desires to bring division among the people of God. Iron ceases to sharpen iron when it begins to dig and chip away.

Don't get personal and attack one another. Don't attack Erwin for following the leading of the Holy Spirit. If you want to waste precious time arguing a mute point all day long... be my guest. BUT... do it in love. Not in bitterness or anger or slander. If that is in your heart, forget nonbelievers coming in and wrecking the place... it has already begun from the inside.

God bless you throughout your day today!! May God grant you all grace and peace as you dwell together!!!

 

[Leanna]

Exactly, there's no reason for beleiver's to want to be here.

I'm a believer, and I want to be here.

 

[seekingmyLord]

Exactly, there's no reason for beleiver's to want to be here.

I don't know that I would say that. However, I would say that the logo doesn't fit at all with the new policy. It gives a false idea about the focus of the forums with the new policy.

 

[ProdicalChristian]

Exactly, there's no reason for beleiver's to want to be here.

So, CF replaces the local Church?

This is NOT a church.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

I don't know, Biblically, the Apostles and disciples faced harsh crowds. Why should we limit ourselves?

Acts 14:19
Then some Jews came from Antioch and Iconium and won the crowd over. They stoned Paul and dragged him outside the city, thinking he was dead.

Acts 16:22
The crowd joined in the attack against Paul and Silas, and the magistrates ordered them to be stripped and beaten.

Acts 8:4
[ Philip in Samaria ] Those who had been scattered preached the word wherever they went.

This isn't going to crowds of non beleivers, it's pitching your tent among them.

 

[MrJim]

this is wrong on so many levels .

Sorry preacher-ain't rollin' over and givin' up to this...battle is against the dark powers encircling this site.

 

[meant4worship]

Except of course there are going to be rules. And the rules may well disallow disruptive behaviour.

'welcome to our house. Please take your shoes off at the door, and keep your feet off the furniture. Do you want tea or coffee? Remember to use a mat.'

Just an interesting point to be considered here....

Just because a section was labeled "Christians" doesn't mean only Christians clicked in. You can't control who clicks in with a sign any more than a police officer can keep you from speeding with a sign. Perhaps moderators did eleviate some of those issues if people were out of hand, but I can guarantee that there was no guarantee about who was on those threads.

But, my heart truly isn't for debate in this.

 

[RedTulipMom]

One danger I foresee is that forums would degenerate into flamewars. How would this be avoided? Furthermore, how will likeminded Christians fellowship if others are allowed to join in freely and so distrupt things?

Erwin never said there would be no RULES here, he just said they wont be as legalistic. It will not be total anarchy like many are envisioning.

 

[ProdicalChristian]

One danger I foresee is that forums would degenerate into flamewars. How would this be avoided? Furthermore, how will likeminded Christians fellowship if others are allowed to join in freely and so distrupt things?

Early Christians faced "flamewars" much more harsher than "online flaming".

 

[ProdicalChristian]

Erwin never said there would be no RULES here, he just said they wont be as legalistic. It will not be total anarchy like many are envisioning.

Yes... There are still rules but not as legalistic. Legalists do NOT like this.

 

[herev]

speaking as a Christian PASTOR I ask ... does Truth matter?

John 4:23

you bet TRUTH matters, and Truth would be in such a church just as he would yours.

 

[Leanna]

This isn't going to crowds of non beleivers, it's pitching your tent among them.

Well then you better stay off this thread because they are among us already, taking over, like a disease!! (sarcasm)