• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

A look at the 144,000

stinsonmarri

Regular Member
Dec 3, 2010
885
10
74
I am currently in Greenville Georgia
✟23,590.00
Faith
SDA
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Democrat
The passage in Rev 10.7 from looking at context as well as the verb tenses and mood, leads to the prophets of old like in the old testament who had the job of preaching the gospel to those of old.....and the passage in Rev 11:18 even backs this up as the passage mentions the judgment is coming upon the dead....the servants and prophets. Read it in context please.

You are correct even the whole chapter is talking about the book which is the Bible. It makes it clear that when the seventh angel sound his trumpet all that the servant HIS prophets prophetic words in the Bible has been fulfill. You have to look at the sentence dealing with the past tense! The very last prophet of ELOHIM was John who wrote Revelation. From then on YAHWEH continues to select messengers to prophesied or explain what the prophets were given through the power of the HOLY SPIRIT!

Happy Sabbath,
stinsonmarri
 
Upvote 0

stinsonmarri

Regular Member
Dec 3, 2010
885
10
74
I am currently in Greenville Georgia
✟23,590.00
Faith
SDA
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Democrat
MidnightCry:

You must read both Daniel and Revelation because they are the same book. One has some of the points and the others have the rest.

But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river. And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth forever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? And he said Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. Dan 12:4-10

The Revelation of YASHUA the MESSIAH, which ELOHIM gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Who bare record of the word of ELOHIM, and of the testimony of YASHUA the MESSIAH and of all things that he saw. Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. Rev 1:1-3
And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire. And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth, And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices. And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not. And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, And sware by him that liveth forever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of ELOHIM should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.
And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey. And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter. And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings. Rev 10:1-11


Yes the ANGEL is the ARCHANGEL MICHAEL known to us as YASHUA! HE explains to John that time as we know it will be no longer. Why is not because of any delay, but it is the beginning of the Time of Trouble. He provides that this earth will have 3 1/2 years and then probation will be close for everyone. There is so much you are correct about but most do seem to understand the Daniel and Revelation is the same book! YAHWEH made it clear to Daniel and us that his book would be open with more understanding and that's why the Father told HIS Son it was time to reveal to his last prophet John more understanding of the last days. YASHUA also explain it to the disciples about the five wise virgins and an outline about however thing would happen before HE returned. The way YAHWEH explains is very unique because HE provides the conclusion first and then HE goes back and explains it in detail.

In order for you to clearly understand the 144,000 you start with the Father sitting on the throne in the MOST HOLY PLACE, judgment is beginning and this is the Father's courtroom. The Father has a book in HIS hand and then John see the LAMB which YASHUA come and takes the book. Daniel also speaks the same thing in Daniel Chapter Seven. Put the thoughts together. What know is the courtroom setting in more detail reveal by John. Twenty-four Elders are the Jury (man is tried by his peers). YASHUA the LAMB is now an ADVOCATOR for HIS people. Who are HIS people those who are faithful but some have lost their love for HIM. They must be blotted out of the Book of Life. Where there are records there are clerks, but there is one superior clerk, the angel with the writer's inkhorn. Eze 9:2, 3 (I also hope you are seeing this is a pattern of the prophets.) There is a BALIFF the HOLY SPIRIT and finally other witnesses which is the great multitude that returned to Heaven with YASHUA. Now the Courtroom of Heaven is set and this is where SDA just don't get it. Revelation Chapter Six provides clear understanding to get to the 144,000. The Book of Life is open and only those who names are sealed remain in the Book. Who names should come first none other than Adam and Eve of course, and they are the riders on the first horse. (Gen 1:26-28) Only time the earth was perfect is the white horse! There are only four horses which represents the earth during periods of time. Those who remain faithful to YAHWEH remain in the Book others who were not are removed. The earth also shows how man has not been a steward and now by the apostolic age she is slowly starting to die. Now the fifth seal shows martyrs who have given their lives symbolically asking when their lives will be vindicated. YASHUA shows that their deeds are recorded and they need to rest for a while because in the six seal others will give up their lives also. However, there is a special group who will complete and step up to the plate. YAHWEH has call throughout this earth history a group who will not bow to the devil and cry out HIS message that HE has given to HIS servants the prophets. Man has disappointed HIM over the centuries but this gospel shall be heard in every nation, tongue and people. Islam will not stop it, Mormonism will not hinder it, Papacy the great harlot and Gentile (people of color are not Gentiles only Japheth children. If people would notice the letters that Paul wrote to beside the Hebrews. Do you see Ethiopia, Nubia, Egypt, Punt, China, India a letter?), is the one along with the beast who will be in the Time of Trouble. Gen 10:5, Isa 66:19 (Another prophet). These two foes will clash one victorious to challenge the YAHWEH and HIS Son.

Before the Throne stands this special group of virgins singing a new song to the Heavenly Father. But the scene changes to return how they got to stand before the Throne. YASHUA reveals they the 144,000 are the messengers flying throughout the earth with the Loud Cry. People of every walk of life will make a choice through the worst time. These 144,000 are not prophet, but they will prophesy what the servant the prophets have written. They will also raise people from the dead, heal the sick, speak like Elijah and all kind of climatic destruction will take place. Like Moses who stood against Egypt false prophets and their lifeless snakes, this special group will stand before the Papacy in Jerusalem that is Babylon. This city throughout the centuries has slaughter's ELOHIM'S servants the prophets. YAHWEH does not need any more prophets because they are all in the Bible and HIS Word has already been reveal by the last one John by the Book know as Revelation!

Be Bless,
stinsonmarri
 
Upvote 0

stinsonmarri

Regular Member
Dec 3, 2010
885
10
74
I am currently in Greenville Georgia
✟23,590.00
Faith
SDA
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Democrat
stinsonmarri,

Where do you find that the horses in Revelation represent the Earth? How do you find that Adam and Eve are the riders on the first horse? Can you please show this with scripture.

YSIC,
MidnightCry


Numbers plays a very important role to man as well as ELOHIM. Three is a very important number and four as well. Together these numbers make of the number seven which means complete or perfect. There are the four heads that came out of the river in the Garden of Eden, the Ark of the Covenant had four rings, the candlestick had four bowls made like unto almonds, four corners of the altar, the burnt offering had four rings, the breast plate four even rows of stones, the four living cherubim that holds the Throne of YAHWEH ELOHIM, four different faces of the highest ranking angels called cherubim. Daniel saw four winds of strife, four great beasts coming out of the sea, leopard had four head and four wings, the goat had four notable horns. As the sea or water represent people the number four represents the earth.

In four quarters were the porters, toward the east, west, north, and south. 1Chr 9:24
And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven, and will scatter them toward all those winds; and there shall be no nation whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come. Jer 49:36
And when he shall stand up, his kingdom shall be broken, and shall be divided toward the four winds of heaven; and not to his posterity, nor according to his dominion which he ruled: for his kingdom shall be plucked up, even for others beside those. Dan 11:4
And I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came four chariots out from between two mountains; and the mountains were mountains of brass. In the first chariot were red horses; and in the second chariot black horses; And in the third chariot white horses; and in the fourth chariot grisled and bay horses. Then I answered and said unto the angel that talked with me, What are these, my lord? And the angel answered and said unto me, These are the four spirits of the heavens, which go forth from standing before the YAHWEH of all the earth. The black horses which are therein go forth into the north country; and the white go forth after them; and the grisled go forth toward the south country. And the bay went forth, and sought to go that they might walk to and fro through the earth: and he said, Get you hence, walk to and fro through the earth. So they walked to and fro through the earth. Zech 6:1-7
And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. Rev 20:8

As I continue to state that the scene given to John was for the last days. YAHWEH is sitting on HIS Throne with the Book of Life in HIS hand. The LAMB which is YASHUA comes and takes the Book. YASHUA opens the book and shows all who are sealed and the first couple that is sealed is Adam and Eve. They are the riders on the first horse which is white that represent perfection.

And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. Rev 6:2
And ELOHIM said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So ELOHIM created man in his own image, in the image of ELOHIM created he him; male and female created he them. And ELOHIM blessed them, and ELOHIM said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen 1:26-28

The Greek word "toxon" (bow), comes from the Greek root word "tikto" that means to produce. The Greek word "nikao" conquer actually means to subdue. Also notice that the crown was giving him and it is one crown. Many tried to say this is YASHUA, but it is not and here is the proof.

And I saw Heaven opened, and behold a White Horse; and HE that sat upon him was called FAITHFUL and TRUE, and in Righteousness HE doth judge and make war. HIS eyes were as a flame of fire, and on HIS Head were many Crowns; and HE had a Name written, that no man knew, but HE HIMSELF. Rev 19:11, 12

YASHUA is depicted here as the Second Adam but not with one crown but many with other titles that only YASHUA the Son of ELOHIM could have!

Happy Sabbath,
stinsonmarri​
 
Upvote 0