Nathan Poe
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Looks more like he made his excuses and /threaded out.
(deja vu?)
Nothing inherently graceful about saving one's own skin.
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Looks more like he made his excuses and /threaded out.
(deja vu?)
Nothing inherently graceful about saving one's own skin.
I'd like to point something out.
In the southern hemisphere the constellations are upside down, I have seen this myself (having just got back from a year in New Zealand) and can not for the life of me figure out how this would be possible on a flat earth.
In the southern hemisphere the constellations are upside down, I have seen this myself (having just got back from a year in New Zealand) and can not for the life of me figure out how this would be possible on a flat earth.
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How so? (Flat earth is not a new theory either) How many pilots believe in a flat Earth?
its an expression. I would go the ends of the Earth for God, do i bleieve in a flat Earth? No.
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All of them. In fact this is a main point from William Carpenter's book One Hundred Proof's the Earth is Not a Globe (1885). When in a plane and you look down, you see no curvature, all you see is a flat surface.
Isaiah xiii. 5 ''They come from a far country, from the end of heaven''
psalms xix. 4-6 ''Its rising is from the end of the heavens, and its circuit to the end of them''
What's your excuse now? ''end of heavens'' is not an expression.
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This is what converted Aristotle from a flat earth believer to a sphere believer, 2350 years ago. However it can easily be explained, in relation to a flat earth, again with the law of perspective. It is an ordinary effect of perspective for an object to appear lower and lower (or upside down) as the observer goes farther and farther away from it. The also explains the declination of the Pole Star, when viewed from different places on earth. These observations are easily explained for a flat earth model, and are not evidence that the earth is round.
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Well I think he's speaking on behalf of mankind, humanity, whatever.
Then again, he's a self-proclaimed "Computer-Assisted Biologically Augmented Lifeform", so I'm not completely sure he's entitled. We may be dealing with a Fifth Columnist here.
Then again, he's a self-proclaimed "Computer-Assisted Biologically Augmented Lifeform", so I'm not completely sure he's entitled. We may be dealing with a Fifth Columnist here.
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Explain the Coriolis effect! You can't? Of dear! Coriolis effect does not appear on a flat earth!
This is like debating cartoon physics!
This is the same flawed circular logic evolutionists employ. Believers in the coriolis effect start at the assumption the earth is round, and then use it to 'prove' the earth is round.
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Well let's start at the assumption that the earth is flat. Say I start traveling westward (or if you don't believe in "west", say I start traveling toward where the sun "goes down" everyday). Where will I eventually end up? Has anyone ever been there? Have any explorers made any sketches or photographs or other descriptions of the edge of the world? Seems like someone would have by now.
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Woa woa woa, things may get smaller the farther away you get, but no law of perspective ever says that things flip upside down.
Orion is my favorite constillation, mostly it's the only one that I can easily identify at a glance. When I look at the stars I look for Orion, one of the first things that really struck me when I was in New Zealand was that Orion was decidedly upside down (and no smaller looking at that).
Also out of curiosity, do you think the firmament or the earth moves at all? How do you explain stars moving, or some constellations being in the sky in one hemisphere but not in the other for a period of time, then switching back after a while? Is the firmament a sphere while the earth is flat?
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Orion is an interesting constellation, portraying Jesus Christ in Genesis 3.
(God "wrote" the plan of salvation in the stars.)
Have you ever studied what would happened if Orion was to bring that club down, or what is biting his heel?
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Furthest West are the Islands off the west coast of Africa or southern Spain (Canaries/Madeira). The Romans and Greeks called one of these Islands, Erytheia, which was placed ''at the limits of the earth bordering Oceanus''. Furthest North-West is South America. This is the furthest strickly west you can travel on land, what surrounds this is the ocean. These water's are hard to travel across, in fact most agree with this, there is ship freezing etc. The conditions are just like the Arctic.
The atheists/evolutionist's assumption is that man in relation to geography aquired better knowledge over time, yet the truth is the opposite, as any student of classical literature would know. The belief in a round earth or 'globe' is as much a faith as the belief in flat earth.
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SithDoughnut
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As much as I am convinced you are a Poe, I'm interested in why you (or your internet persona you are using) think that the writers of classical literature knew better than we do.
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Show a diagram or picture of what you are typing about?
The law of perspective, explains the declination of the Pole Star.
I pasted some Biblical passages which state the earth doesn't move, nor does the Heavens. Things in them however move i.e Moon and Sun. As for stars? The Bible says they can move. Can't be bothered to quote mine more, but from memory Rev viii. 10 mentions a moving star, as does somewhere in Daniel viii.
The Bible makes it clear the Heavens are the shape of a 'vault' which have a boundry limit.
All of this is also found in Greek, Babylonian, Egyptian, Norse etc mythology.
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Because they posessed greater knowledge, there was once a Satya Yuga or Golden Age.
It's only evolutionists who ignorantly believe man's ancestors were originally dumb but who ''evolved'' over time, becoming more intelligent.
The opposite, is in fact the truth.
''Although modern man until recently has viewed and celebrated the meaning of the history known to him as epitomizing progress and evolution, the truth as professed by traditional man is quite the opposite. In all ancient testimonies of traditional humanity it is possible to find, in various forms, the idea of a regression or fall; from originally higher states. - Julius Evola, Revolt Against the Modern World
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I might agree those waters are relatively hard to travel across, but do you really think no one has done it? There's an Orthodox Christian Church on King George Island in Antarctica.
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Nathan Poe
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People actually believe that dreck?
AV -- they're stars. Orion is not bringing his club down anytime soon.
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