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OK. We need to stop this.
I am sorry you feel that way because I serve a God that throughout scripture tells us that He will never ask something of us that He will not equip us to be able to do...to that end, He tells us to be without sin...just because we don't do that doesn't mean it is impossible for if it was impossible, He would not be the God of the Bible...
I'll teach you something right now since you brought it up.
lol okay, I have to ask...when I tell you about some of the many sins listed that most people do not consider sins what do you think you can teach me by saying that there are long lists of sins some we don't even consider sins? I mean, if I already told you that, what about that do you think I don't already know and understand? Please be clear in your response so I can follow without flaming you by assuming what you mean as it applies to what I said.
hum...so when I say we are now under the law of Love what do you think that means if not that we are under the law of Love? I am so confused...
yep...but you just used the word "when" which is a word that indicates that we don't have to sin...so when I say that we do not have to sin but we do, what do you think that means? YOu are very confusing...
amen...I've said that too...when do you start teaching me about sin that I haven't already said on this thread?
No one, especially me said that I have never sinned in fact, saying that I have never sinned would be a sin in and of itself....so when I say that I have sinned and still sometimes do but that God has given me the tools to NOT sin, why would you falsely accuse me of saying I have never sinned? That would be called flaming which you claim you are not doing so I think you need to explain why you think it is not flaming to claim I said the opposite of what I really did say...please teach me instead of just repeating what I have said
I think you already know.
It sounds to me that you're saying that God gives us the strength NOT TO SIN. To me that means NEVER. I think I'm very clear in how I speak. How many times can I say that the Holy Spirit is our paraclete. He walks by our side and helps us not to sin. That does not mean we NEVER sin. It's held to a minimum because of two reasons: 1. We're more aware of sin. 2. We love God. There are other reasons but it would get too long...I'm sure you know what they are.
Maybe we should study communications sometimes!
He also wrote them on our hearts and minds...are you suggesting He is to weak to remind us of them? Cause scripture says that one of the jobs of the HS is to remind us of all that He (God) has taught....or are you suggesting that God has hidden from us some of the things He considers sin?
I speak very clearly and have been recognized by many as an exceptional communicator of the written word, so when I say that it does NOT mean we never sin but that God has given us all we need to not sin if we just allow Him to work within out lives to do so, how do you think it is good to say that I think we never sin? I mean it's a direct opposite words of what I said and the communication of the thoughts I have to contribute....but again, if it is NOT Flaming to claim someone said the exact opposite of what they really did say as you have repeatedly been doing with me, what is it? Cause the forum rules say that is flaming.
yep...but that was not the question on the table and that is something I already many times over said that we agree on...so please continue to teach me but remember it is sinful to bare false witness of what others have said as it is sinful to proclaim that you are teaching me something when all you are doing is repeating what I already said...so please go on, I have a few more hours to wait for you to allow your yes to be yes and your no to be no...
lol ...this is usually the argument that posters to prideful to confess that they are wrong try to pull when in fact, I have had english teachers, contests, etc. tell me that I am an excellent communicator especially of the written word. If you can't read what I say for meaning I don't know what to tell you, maybe learn to read for comprehension before trying to argue with someone just because you can?!
1 John 1:8
Maybe we should study communications sometimes!
I have stated very clearly on multiple times in this thread alone that it relies on our yielding to God whether we sin or not and that all of us fail at one time or another, myself included...but I also refuse your argument that I sin before I climb out of bed in the morning...I mean come on, one morning I was dreaming a prayer, not dreaming I was praying but actually dreaming a prayer and it was a beautiful prayer and captured my mind, heart, exceedingly as I crawled out of bed with praise to God on my lips...when sin then did I commit before I climbed out of bed? Please, shed light on what sin I committed before I got out of bed as you claim we all do and cannot avoid doing even though God has given us the tools to no longer sin....
so, you refuse to read what I say...you refuse to respond to what I said, and why? Because you have met people who say something different than I am...how pathetic...sorry, I was trying to find a kinder word but couldn't. When I directly tell you that we all have and sometimes do sin but that we don't have to and you say, 'I don't have to listen to what you say because I talked to a guy years ago that said something else and I want to argue so I will pretend you are that guy' it's purely pathetic.
WEll, you told me you could teach me something about sin and I asked you to do so so you repeated everything I just said about sin...news flash, that is NOT teaching.
see, this is an example of flaming...you are asked to teach me what you claim you can teach me...you insult me, twist my words, reinvent my argument, and then further the sin by mocking me as you do here....it's no wonder you do not believe God has the power to keep us from sin if you think this is okay.LOL
Just put a focus on the fact that I said IF anyone does sin, we have and advocate before the Father Jesus Christ the Righteous" 1 John 1:2 While we'd fight and fuss as to whether we can go 3 hours without sinning as compared to 8 there's a whole world around us going to Hell.shouldn't our focus be on not sinning in the first place given all the passages in the OT and NT alike that tell us to not sin and even tell us how to avoid sin, like prayer, being in the word, meditating on His commands, etc. Then take comfort that if we mess up we have an advocate?If I understand the OP correctly its asking the question is it possible for someone to go one 24 hour period and not sin. Or maybe we should say 16 hours for we're sleeping the other 8? But then again some might say you sinned in your dreams even though you can't recall.
I heard one say you notice how in a dream that is if you did wrong you didn't really have a per-mediated choice about it...You're just there and the thing is going on and I'll make it not so strong and just say you sad a bad word in your dream. Back to being serious. Can one not sin for one whole day? Some might think not.
Well...how about 3 hours? How about 1? How about 30 minutes or 15? How about even 1 minute or even 1 second? Must be some possibility of something for Jesus said IF we sin we have an advocate with the Father.....He didn't say you would EVERY SECOND. Well how about a minute, or 5 and onward up we go. I think the Lord might say, "STOP THIS!
not sure how you cannot know that flaming is to reinvent another posters words and ideas just to argue with the person or insight them to anger but cool...hopefully we can continue with some meaningful discussion.OK
I'm not going to inflate what you say anymore.
And I'm not going to do this flaming thing anymore--whatever that is.
now now now, that is not what I said about the picture is it?!! Now, I said it was the mocking tone of the picture after being shown that you are not allowed to reinvent what others say as if they said something they did not and then continue to insist that they didn't say what they clearly said. It's not that hard to understand my words...
which is why it can only be done in the power of the Living God....btw, do you realize that even true self control is in the power of the indwelling HS...Galatians 5:22-23 Very few people have studied self control in scripture and even fewer have taught it...oh and before anyone tries, self control and self discipline are related but not the same thing.
