A Complete Skull from Dmanisi

dad · Dec 11, 2013

Aman777 said:
Dear Dad, I was NOT speaking of the men of the Bible and you know it. Here is the record which you are trying to twist.

So who are the goatherders you spoke of??

Dear Dad, Why do you believe mens views instead of what God told us in Genesis? You said it was God and His record and then listed what some men who lived long ago, thought. <<<<<<< Your deception is noted, along with your changing my words into teeny tiny words. Why do you fell it necessary to do such things?

The men who got dates from the bible did so well, from the bible. Your 10,000 year nonsense is way off. Face it, you base that on so called science claims.

I don't CLAIM anything. I show that the sons of God came into the daughters of Adam and produced mighty men which were of old, men of renown. That's because that is what Genesis 6:4 states and YOU cannot refute it, obviously.

But you claim these 'sons of god' were what? Brainless apes spawned from water or some idiotic thing??

As far as I know, the first world was always in the water of the Lake.

Rich! The whole world was in a lake. How clever.

No. In the beginning God created the air and the ground. And the ground was without form and Void because there was NO Potter to mold the clay. Notice also that Darkness was upon the face of the Deep (Water). With your understanding, where did the water come from? It wasn't created, was it?

I also notice the water was separated from the land...duh.

...Have you noticed the thread you started trying to get Christians to refute me? So far, NONE of them has been able to accomplish your wishes.

Guess they feel your cultish nonsense is unworthy.

Aman777 · Dec 11, 2013

dad said:
dad said:

So who are the goatherders you spoke of??

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Dear Dad, They are the ancient men whose Theology you follow.

The men who got dates from the bible did so well, from the bible. Your 10,000 year nonsense is way off. Face it, you base that on so called science claims.

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The Bible does NOT list EVERY man, but ONLY those who have been born again. This eliminates most men since men tend to believe in themselves instead of God's Truth.

But you claim these 'sons of god' were what? Brainless apes spawned from water or some idiotic thing??

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No. They are the best that Evolution can produce. That is WHY Jesus made Adam first. He knew that Adam would fall, so He made people who looked just like Adam and could produce children with Adam's descendants, thus populating our Earth. Today, His foreknowledge has produced over 7 Billion Humans. Human Lifespans have been reduced by 90% since this happened.

Rich! The whole world was in a lake. How clever.

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That's because God's Truth is clever, so clever that most people cannot understand it. The first world was much SMALLER than the present world for it fit into Lake Van, Turkey, which is just 75 miles wide.

I also notice the water was separated from the land...duh.

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When the windows of the firmament were opened, the water was no longer separated from the land. Then the Flood, "clean dissolved" Adam's earth as Isaiah 24:19 confirms. If you don't keep water separated from the land, it will dissolve the land.

This reveals that Adam's Earth was much different from the 3rd Rock from the Sun, which we live on today. It will never be dissolved in water because God promised Noah that it would not. Genesis 9 (Blue Letter Bible: KJV - King James Version)

Guess they feel your cultish nonsense is unworthy.

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No. I answered 3 comments Scripturally, and the ALL of the posters disappeared. I suppose, unlike you, they must be Bible believing Christians. I told you that Bible believers can see that I support whatI write with Scripture. If you want to keep the thread, you better hurry since it was about to disappear from the main page this morning due to Lack of postings. Thus your plea that Christians refute me Scripturally FAILS miserably. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

dad · Dec 11, 2013

Aman777 said:
The Bible does NOT list EVERY man, but ONLY those who have been born again.

?? So Cain was born again? He is listed.

He knew that Adam would fall, so He made people who looked just like Adam and could produce children with Adam's descendants, thus populating our Earth.

Unscriptural. You cannot claim additional creations of men!

That's because God's Truth is clever, so clever that most people cannot understand it. The first world was much SMALLER than the present world for it fit into Lake Van, Turkey, which is just 75 miles wide.

Ha. Maybe it could fit in your nose!? Why not? Why stop at a lake for size??

I suppose, unlike you, they must be Bible believing Christians. I told you that Bible believers can see that I support whatI write with Scripture. If you want to keep the thread, you better hurry since it was about to disappear from the main page this morning due to Lack of postings. Thus your plea that Christians refute me Scripturally

No. I answered 3 comments Scripturally, and the ALL of the posters disappeared.

Scared them away did you?

Stop talking about it here. This is about skulls. I think we have had your opinion. You think the skulls (correct me if I have your idea wrong) were here when Noah wafted humans onto this planet! You also think they were from ape like creatures who had sex with mankind, and grew very clever!!! Right?

Aman777 · Dec 12, 2013

dad said:
Originally Posted by Aman777

The Bible does NOT list EVERY man, but ONLY those who have been born again.

?? So Cain was born again? He is listed.

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Dear Dad, Sorry, but Cain is NOT listed in the order from Adam to Jesus, and neither are ANY of Cain's descendants. It's the same with the Begats. God doesn't list the "dead" Spiritually, but only the living Spiritually. That is WHY the numbers don't add up when one falsely presumes to date the creation morning, like Ussher did.

He knew that Adam would fall, so He made people who looked just like Adam and could produce children with Adam's descendants, thus populating our Earth.

Unscriptural. You cannot claim additional creations of men!

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False. Genesis 2:4-7 shows that Adam was formed of the dust of the ground on the 3rd Day. Genesis 1:21 shows that EVERY living creature that "moveth" was "created" and brought forth from the water on the 5th Day. Genesis 2:22 shows that Eve was made from Adam's rib on the 6th Day. Intellectual Giants were also made when the sons of God married and produced children with Adam's daughters. Genesis 6:4

AFTER Cain killed Abel, God "CREATES" mankind in His Image at the SAME time on the 6th Day. Genesis 1:27 and Genesis 5:1-2 As you should be able to see God made mankind at different times on different days, and NOT all were "created in God's Image" but ONLY those who were born again Spiritually, in Christ, for Jesus IS the ONLY Image of the invisible Spirit of God. Colossians 1 (Blue Letter Bible: KJV - King James Version)

That's because God's Truth is clever, so clever that most people cannot understand it. The first world was much SMALLER than the present world for it fit into Lake Van, Turkey, which is just 75 miles wide.

Ha. Maybe it could fit in your nose!? Why not? Why stop at a lake for size??

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It's because of the story of the Raven and the Dove, which shows that the larger bird simply flew to shore, and did NOT return to the Ark while the smaller Dove coudn't find rest and returned to the Ark. A week later, the Dove was sent out again, and this time brought a leaf of an Olive Tree in it's beak.

NO Olive tree can germinate in the mud, grow up and put forth branches with Leaves in ONE week. The Ark must have moved closer to the shore so the Dove simply flew there and returned to the Ark, exactly as Scripture shows. Try to refute that with YOUR understanding.

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I suppose, unlike you, they must be Bible believing Christians. I told you that Bible believers can see that I support whatI write with Scripture. If you want to keep the thread, you better hurry since it was about to disappear from the main page this morning due to Lack of postings. Thus your plea that Christians refute me Scripturally

No. I answered 3 comments Scripturally, and the ALL of the posters disappeared.

Scared them away did you?

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Not really since I returned this morning to ask them to show where your "theology" is in error. You know, the belief that you preach that the world was divided PHYSICALLY in Peleg's time.

Stop talking about it here. This is about skulls. I think we have had your opinion. You think the skulls (correct me if I have your idea wrong) were here when Noah wafted humans onto this planet! You also think they were from ape like creatures who had sex with mankind, and grew very clever!!! Right?

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The Skull of Dmanisi is that of one of the sons of God (prehistoric people) who were descended from the common ancestor of Apes. They were NOT Humans because they did NOT descend from Adam.

Noah's grandsons, like Cain, on Adam's world, had NO other Humans to marry so they married the descendants of the common ancestor of Apes, and their CHILDREN inherited Adam's Human intelligence which is like Gods. Genesis 3:22

Human blood was contaminated with the blood of the sons of God and we lost 90% of our lifespans. Genesis 6 (Blue Letter Bible: KJV - King James Version)

Thanks again for helping me tell others of God's Truth, Scripturally. It helps when you can bounce your thoughts off those who swallow the nonsensical views of the ancient goatherders. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

dad · Dec 16, 2013

Aman777 said:
The Skull of Dmanisi is that of one of the sons of God (prehistoric people) who were descended from the common ancestor of Apes. They were NOT Humans because they did NOT descend from Adam.

Noah's grandsons, like Cain, on Adam's world, had NOmarried the descendants of the common other Humans to marry so they ancestor of Apes, and their CHILDREN inherited Adam's Human intelligence which is like Gods.

So apes (even better still, ancestors of apes!) had sex with humans that Noah brought to earth. This is your claim!? The apes then got very clever.

That is demonic doctrine.

stevevw · Dec 16, 2013

dad said:
So apes (even better still, ancestors of apes!) had sex with humans that Noah brought to earth. This is your claim!? The apes then got very clever.

That is demonic doctrine.

So the line continues from this 1/2 ape and human hybrid to Noah. then from Noah to Abraham, Issac and Jacob right down to Jesus. So Jesus is 1/2 ape.

dad · Dec 16, 2013

stevevw said:
So the line continues from this 1/2 ape and human hybrid to Noah. then from Noah to Abraham, Issac and Jacob right down to Jesus. So Jesus is 1/2 ape.

Powerful point.

stevevw · Dec 16, 2013

dad said:
Powerful point.

I did say it a couple of weeks ago to aman. Seemed to be a logical extension of what he was saying. I think it is an attempt to fit a bit of evolution in with the bible. Not sure though, I am not sure if this is another religion of something aman has come up with himself. I have seen similar things on other forums and sites but aman says this is different.

Ursus scientia · Dec 16, 2013

stevevw said:
So the line continues from this 1/2 ape and human hybrid to Noah. then from Noah to Abraham, Issac and Jacob right down to Jesus. So Jesus is 1/2 ape.

Waaaaaiiitt.

Wasn't Jesus conceived divinely, and Joseph's son in name only?

biggles53 · Dec 16, 2013

Ursus scientia said:
Waaaaaiiitt.

Wasn't Jesus conceived divinely, and Joseph's son in name only?

Meh......the name of the game seems to be 'make it up as you go along'.......

Aman777 · Dec 16, 2013

Originally Posted by Aman777

The Skull of Dmanisi is that of one of the sons of God (prehistoric people) who were descended from the common ancestor of Apes. They were NOT Humans because they did NOT descend from Adam.

Noah's grandsons, like Cain, on Adam's world, had NO other Humans to marry so they married the descendants of the common ancestor of Apes, and their CHILDREN inherited Adam's Human intelligence which is like Gods. Genesis 3:22

dad said:
So apes (even better still, ancestors of apes!) had sex with humans that Noah brought to earth. This is your claim!? The apes then got very clever.

dad said:
That is demonic doctrine.

Dear Dad, False accusation which demonstrates your Scriptual illiteracy since Genesis 6:4 says exactly that. Here it is:

Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God (prehistoric man) came in unto the daughters of men, (Adam) and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

You have claimed that your personal opinion, with NO support from Scripture, but only a sound refute, is that the sons of God were Angels. I have shown you Scripturally that Angels don't marry and they are bound in chains under the darkness, but you insist that Angels are the sons of God.

So keep on believing whatever you wish but don't try to peddle it to a Bible believing Christain. All that you are accomplishing is to show everyone that your religious views are based on nothing but Bluff.

BTW, I reposted the second paragraph which you had changed, in order to keep your deceitful posting methods from fooling the Newbies. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

stevevw · Dec 16, 2013

biggles53 said:
Meh......the name of the game seems to be 'make it up as you go along'.......

Thats right actually. Jesus is outside the bloodline of Adam. But he is know as the last Adam.

Aman777 · Dec 16, 2013

stevevw said:
So the line continues from this 1/2 ape and human hybrid to Noah. then from Noah to Abraham, Issac and Jacob right down to Jesus. So Jesus is 1/2 ape.

Dear Steve, Don't be bamboozled by dad who thinks the fallen Angels produced today's humans with Adam's daughters. Here's where the Angels are, Scripturally: Jud 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Also Jesus tells us the Angels do not marry nor are given in marriage.

Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the Angels of God in heaven.Mar 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the Angels which are in heaven.

Dad cannot support his personal opinion with Scripture thus making his view the same as an unbeliever. It doesn't mean that he is not a Christian since that is based on his Faith in the Gospel of Jesus Christ, according to the Scriptures. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

Aman777 · Dec 16, 2013

biggles53 said:
Meh......the name of the game seems to be 'make it up as you go along'.......

Dear biggles, You are correct IF we are speaking of Dad, since he cannot support his view with anything but personal opinion. Beware of following those who make it up as they go.

In Love,
Aman

dad · Dec 16, 2013

Aman777 said:
The Skull of Dmanisi is that of one of the sons of God (prehistoric people) who were descended from the common ancestor of Apes. They were NOT Humans because they did NOT descend from Adam.

Noah's grandsons, like Cain, on Adam's world, had NO other Humans to marry so they married the descendants of the common ancestor of Apes, and their CHILDREN inherited Adam's Human intelligence which is like Gods. Genesis 3:22

We can let this rest on it's own worthlessness.

Dear Dad, False accusation which demonstrates your Scriptual illiteracy since Genesis 6:4 says exactly that. Here it is:

I said this..

'So apes (even better still, ancestors of apes!) had sex with humans that Noah brought to earth. This is your claim!? The apes then got very clever. ' referring to what you claim. I think we see that it is what you claim. If not, now is a good time to clarify.

You have claimed that your personal opinion, with NO support from Scripture, but only a sound refute, is that the sons of God were Angels.

That is a dominant opinion among scholars. I agree. That does not make the skulls related to angels or men though! Show us an example of a skull that is an ancestor to man and ape!!!

I have shown you Scripturally that Angels don't marry and they are bound in chains under the darkness, but you insist that Angels are the sons of God.

This isn't the thread for supposed biblical obsession, and unhinged theory peddling!

bhsmte · Dec 16, 2013

This is better than watching the comedy channel!

Aman777 · Dec 16, 2013

Originally Posted by Aman777

The Skull of Dmanisi is that of one of the sons of God (prehistoric people) who were descended from the common ancestor of Apes. They were NOT Humans because they did NOT descend from Adam.

Noah's grandsons, like Cain, on Adam's world, had NO other Humans to marry so they married the descendants of the common ancestor of Apes, and their CHILDREN inherited Adam's Human intelligence which is like Gods. Genesis 3:22

We can let this rest on it's own worthlessness.

Dear Dad, Can you tell us HOW we got the DNA of prehistoric people inside our blood?

Dear Dad, False accusation which demonstrates your Scriptual illiteracy since Genesis 6:4 says exactly that. Here it is:

I said this..

'So apes (even better still, ancestors of apes!) had sex with humans that Noah brought to earth. This is your claim!? The apes then got very clever. ' referring to what you claim. I think we see that it is what you claim. If not, now is a good time to clarify.

Can YOU tell us how the DNA of prehistoric people who evolved from the common ancestor of Apes got insider your body?

You have claimed that your personal opinion, with NO support from Scripture, but only a sound refute, is that the sons of God were Angels.

That is a dominant opinion among scholars. I agree. That does not make the skulls related to angels or men though! Show us an example of a skull that is an ancestor to man and ape!!!

That was the dominant opinon of ancient men because the name "giant" refers to a tribe of people who were very tall. ln other words, it's the Theology of ancient men which you are teaching.

I have shown you Scripturally that Angels don't marry and they are bound in chains under the darkness, but you insist that Angels are the sons of God.

This isn't the thread for supposed biblical obsession, and unhinged theory peddling!

Where would you suggest? Since you are familiar with unhinged theories supported by nothing but bluff, your insight should be helpful. So far as an obsession with God's Holy Word, I plead guilty. You should try it sometime and it would give you support and from what i've seen, you really, really, need it. God Bless you for your support.

In Love,
Aman

dad · Dec 16, 2013

Aman777 said:
Dear Dad, Can you tell us HOW we got the DNA of prehistoric people inside our blood?

That depends what you call prehistoric people. If you mean monkies that you call sons of god, forget it. If you mean post flood man, well that is elementary.

That was the dominant opinon of ancient men because the name "giant" refers to a tribe of people who were very tall. ln other words, it's the Theology of ancient men which you are teaching.

Forget giants. When the sons of god came before the throne of God in heaven, and Satan was among them, rest assured they were not ape ancestors.

Where would you suggest?

Over the hill and far away.

Aman777 · Dec 17, 2013

dad said:
That depends what you call prehistoric people. If you mean monkies that you call sons of god, forget it. If you mean post flood man, well that is elementary.

Dear Dad, Was the flood on our Planet?

Forget giants. When the sons of god came before the throne of God in heaven, and Satan was among them, rest assured they were not ape ancestors. Over the hill and far away.

You don't know who the LORD is. Do you? You think the sons of God went to heaven BEFORE Jesus was crucified? Don't you know that Jesus was the first to enter God's perfect Heaven?

Col 1:18 And He is the head of the body, the Church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things He might have the preeminence. (first place)

The LORD God of the Old Testament, called YHWH, is Jesus Christ in the New Testament. When you read Job, it is speaking of the sons of God being on the present Earth and NOT going to Heaven. The LORD is Jesus and many people saw Him in the old testament. I'm sorry, but I thought you knew. God bless you. Jesus is LORD.

In Love,
Aman

dad · Dec 17, 2013

Aman777 said:
Dear Dad, Was the flood on our Planet?

Yes.

You don't know who the LORD is. Do you? You think the sons of God went to heaven BEFORE Jesus was crucified? Don't you know that Jesus was the first to enter God's perfect Heaven?

That was after Job. It was in Job we see the sons of god meeting. They were not apes, forget about it.

The LORD God of the Old Testament, called YHWH, is Jesus Christ in the New Testament. When you read Job, it is speaking of the sons of God being on the present Earth and NOT going to Heaven.

Oh? Would that happen to be where the morning stars sang, and the sons of god shouted also?

Job 38:7 -When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
God is in heaven. Remember?? Let's starrt with the basics.."Our Father which art in HEAVEN..."

Lu 11:2 -And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

The LORD is Jesus and many people saw Him in the old testament. I'm sorry, but I thought you knew. God bless you. Jesus is LORD.

Don't try to conflate issues, and have the angel of the Lord in the old testament holding universal court sessions on earth!!! Not honest.

Find another thread, I think we got your opinion on the skulls. You think this planet where they are was not where Noah was, and that they are ancestors of man and apes that had sex with Noah's kids!

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