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"Enabled" is a good word. Not caused or forced or coerced but now able to work out our salvation with He who works in us. And believers are likewise still able to fail to do so.It is such in the light of counterfeit faith (tares).
Of course. . .in obedience enabled by the Holy Spirit.
"But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."-John 12 is about praise from God. How are you getting God not praising a believer child to them not being saved.
In Matthew 10 there is also nothing about a believer who does not confess Jesus, being unsaved. Again Jesus' confession is a confession of praise and is connected to rewards.
Believers who deny Jesus will be denied praise and rewards from God. Peter denied Jesus three times, he did not lose his eternal life or was not a true believer (as many call it). Then Jesus restored him back into fellowship in the family of God, where Peter eventually became a strong leader.
Has This Passage Ever Bothered You? — Matthew 10:32-33 – Grace Evangelical Society
Is Confessing Christ a Condition of Salvation? – Matthew 10:32-33 – Grace Evangelical Society
Eternal Rewards and Denying Christ – Grace Evangelical Society
Deny Christ and Ruling with Him – Grace Evangelical Society
"But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."
That is unsaved.
So, then, even the faith of the demons will save them? James is obviously saying that a faith without works/fruit will not cause them to be considered as righteous and, consequently, will not save them.
Are you disputing that the Father is in heaven? But because you accused me of adding to scripture, here is a whole page of reference from various translations.-You are just adding that in the text just says deny before my Father. That can very well be the denying of rewards, if not Peter is in hel, l because Peter denied Jesus not just one time but three times.
Are you disputing that the Father is in heaven? But because you accused me of adding to scripture, here is a whole page of reference from various translations.
I'll expect an apology.
Matthew 10:33 - Confessing Christ
But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father in heaven.biblehub.com
And yet James saw fit to present and compare their faith to a faith that is alone, emphazing that such a faith is capable of saving no one. So, I'll repeat. "James is obviously saying that a faith without works/fruit will not cause them to be considered as righteous and, consequently, will not save them."-Show me where demons are from the line of Adam and Eve. Because that is who Christ came and is offering Eternal Life salvation to.
And yet James saw fit to present and compare their faith to a faith that is alone, emphazing that such a faith is capable of saving no one. So, I'll repeat. "James is obviously saying that a faith without works/fruit will not cause them to be considered as righteous and, consequently, will not save them."
You can follow Jesus' teachings without ever having saving faith in him, as many do in this world.
You shoud add, in your opinion...
I didn’t say they could have eternal life, my post implied just the opposite, in fact, as James did. And I doubt they could or would repent anyway if it was even possible. But James nonetheless used the example of their faith as one that is fruitless because that is the very point he was MAKING, and which you’re desperately trying to avoid, that faith alone would be WORTHLESS, yes, towards SALVATION as the demon verses follow and flow from that direct question about people in vs 14,-I am not the one who is saying James 2 is saying, demons can have eternal life salvation. They (demons) have belief, but just do not have works.
Which leads to you saying. Belief in Jesus does not give a person God's free gift of Eternal Life salvation. Because demons have belief and they are not sav
Even though in James, James does not say the demons believed in Jesus for Eternal Life salvation. James just says they believe God is one, which is not a salvation belief that God has stated will give a person Eternal Life.
It's not about ability, it's about being kept by the power of God (1 Pe 1:5), and his arm is never too short."Enabled" is a good word. Not caused or forced or coerced but now able to work out our salvation with He who works in us.
And believers are likewise still able to fail to do so.
Oh, He has the power to do whatever he wants, but He won't keep us if we don't remain in Him, who don't remain faithful IOW. That's how He wants it. In 1 Pet 1:13-16 he goes on to instruct them on what they must do:It's not about ability, it's about being kept by the power of God (1 Pe 1:5), and his arm is never too short.
Like the sheep (those given to Jesus, Jn 6:39) are kept by the Good Shepherd (Jn 6:39, 10:38, 17:12, 18:9).
You've got it backwards. . .you've got man in the sovereign God's wheelhouse (Da 4:35, as in 2 Kgs 19:28), instead of the sovereign God himself.Oh, He has the power to do whatever he wants, but He won't keep us if we don't remain in Him,
No, here's the proper understanding, from Augustine in this case,You've got it backwards. . .you've got man in the sovereign God's wheelhouse (Da 4:35, as in 2 Kgs 19:28), instead of the sovereign God himself.
We remain in him because he keeps us (1 Pe 1:5).
And if he is not keeping us, we are not his own because our faith is countefeit and, therefore, we do not remain in him.
How is that different from what I said:No, here's the proper understanding, from Augustine in this case,
“It is the grace of God that helps the wills of men; and when they are not helped by it, the reason is in themselves, not in God.
Because it means they, the brothers and sisters Peter is addressing in this case, can resist and oppose God's work, His grace.How is that different from what I said:
We remain in him because he keeps us (1 Pe 1:5).
And if he is not keeping us, we are not his own because our faith is counterfeit and, therefore, we do not remain in him.
He keeps us by his grace causing us not to desire to resist and oppose his work.Because it means they, the brothers and sisters Peter is addressing in this case, can resist and oppose God's work, His grace.
But in actuality they don't when the Holy Spirit gives them to prefer otherwise, and so they freely choose what they prefer.Because it means they, the brothers and sisters Peter is addressing in this case, can resist and oppose God's work, His grace.
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