I am a good christian with a friend who is trying to help someone come away from Wicca. Please help.
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A Christians View of Wicca
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Help? Why? Does the person want to come away from Wicca? If so then they can just walk away. If they don't want to leave Wicca, why wouldn't you just respect their right to choose their own path?
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my friend used to be into that, but she broke away from it when she became a Christian. i think that would be the first way...but i don't know any more than that.
because as a christian, if we truly believed that Jesus was the only way, we would point others to Jesus. not that we're supposed to stuff it down their throat...but we should at least try to point them in the right direction. because if we didn't bother to reach out to unbelievers...their "blood will be on our hands". does that make sense? but yeah...that's why
because as a christian, if we truly believed that Jesus was the only way, we would point others to Jesus. not that we're supposed to stuff it down their throat...but we should at least try to point them in the right direction. because if we didn't bother to reach out to unbelievers...their "blood will be on our hands". does that make sense? but yeah...that's why
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Originally posted by blueiverson
my friend used to be into that, but she broke away from it when she became a Christian. i think that would be the first way...but i don't know any more than that.
because as a christian, if we truly believed that Jesus was the only way, we would point others to Jesus. not that we're supposed to stuff it down their throat...but we should at least try to point them in the right direction. because if we didn't bother to reach out to unbelievers...their "blood will be on our hands". does that make sense? but yeah...that's why
Well if it's just a pointing out then respecting their decision then fine. The post seems to intimate more than that.
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True, but the starter of the thread also has the right to evangelize to this person. The right to do what you want does not limit others rights to speak to you about other paths.
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That's not quite correct. The other person has the right not to have to listen if they choose not to. If the person insists on "evangelising" them they could consider it harrasment and act accordingly. You have the right to free speech. You do not have the right to speak to me, or any specific person.
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All the same old useless links eh Gunny? Did you think they would be any more truthful witness in this forum than the last one?
Still waiting for you to show evidence that Wiccans, myself included, are murderers. Unless you'd rather retract the claim? Exactly what does your bible say about false witness again Gunny?
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The other person has the right not to associate with the evangelizer. There is no right not to be "harrassed" if physical boundries are not infringed.
...and i don't care what the law says.
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Well if yo don't care what the law says then that says a lot about you. If you're willing to break the law and abrogate other peoples rights becuase your beliefs tell you to then there's not much sense in talking to you.
Terrorists also believe that the law of their God supercedes the rights and laws of otheres.
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i did not say the law of god supercedes anyones rights, i just said i don't believe that anyone has the "right" not to be talked to. If someone is talking to you about something you do not want to hear, and there is no physical force, or threat of physical force, would you use violence to prevent them from talking to you?
appealing to harrassment laws is considered an act of violence.
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How could appealing to a law be an act of vioklence lol.
No, I ouldn't use violence to prevent soemone from talking to me I'd walk away. If they followed me and contuinued to harass me I'l call the police. I do have the right not to be talked to, by leaving the area where the talking is taking place. You have the right to say what you wish, as long as you don't harrass me. Harrasment laws are a way to allow me to pursue my rights by choosing who I will and will not interact with. That is my right.
If I choose not to listen to your religious evangelising I have a responsibility to walk away, or hang up the phone, or turn off the television. Once I have fulfilled my responsibility it is then your responsibility to respect my wishes not to interact with you. If you attempt to force that interaction you are harrassing me, and that can get you into trouble, whether you care about the law or not.
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How would the police solve this problem if you contacted them?
Answer: through violence.
Appealing to the law is an act of violence.
I do agree with you that you have a right to choose not to associate with the harrasser. If the harrasser comes to your house, you do have the right to use violence to remove them from your property (trespassing is one of the four true crimes). However, if you are on someone else's property, you have no "right" to be free from this person, unless the property owner chooses to remove them from his/her property.
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The police would use violence to prevent him from harrassing you? You do have some rather strange ideas.
And you do have the right not to be harrassed by a person. That is the law. I get the feeling you don't agree with the law but that won't change the law. If you want to change the law I suggest you contact your Member of Congress.
Appealing to the law is an act of citizenship, not violence.
And you do have the right not to be harrassed by a person. That is the law. I get the feeling you don't agree with the law but that won't change the law. If you want to change the law I suggest you contact your Member of Congress.
Appealing to the law is an act of citizenship, not violence.
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All laws are enforced through violence. If the police did not use violence, what would they do?
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The only real effective way to evangelize is to do it by example. Let your life speak for it self. Show the light of christ in your life and they will come around, though the effect most likely will not be instant
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Laws are also enforced through fines as well. There is also and most importantly the responsibilities of being citizens of a country where (hopefully) people understand that they need to work together to some degree and not infringe on the rights of others. Without this repect for other people life would surely be chaotic, don't you think?
But seriously I see nothing wrong with evangalism as long as it doesn't become harrassment, and it is the responsibility of Christians to evangalise.
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