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A Biblical Divorce

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So, I'm looking through the bible and trying to find any and all verses that have to do with divorce, and why they do or don't support my decision to get one. :pray:
My husband was maritally unfaithful, abusive, and he is a 'non-practising' christian (or in other words he only classifies himself as one, doens't pray or go to church). :preach: Anyone, thoughts, verses on this issue?

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I already have Matthew 19: 8-9, which supports my decision--
8Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."

Because thier hearst were hard--not sure quite what that means. But "except for marital unfaithfulness" shows me that Jesus didn't think much of cheaters either.
 
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Matther 19:8 talks about a spouse that puts away their spouse, it has nothing to do with divorce. In the OT if one was divorced and remarried, then divorced again, they couldn't go back to their first husband. In the NT it says if you are bound to a wife, don't seek to be loosed. If you are loosed, you do not sin by remarrying. Here is some additional info:

[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif](ASV) but I say unto you, that every one that putteth away his wife, saving for the
cause of fornication, maketh her an adulteress: and whosoever shall marry her
when she is PUT AWAY committeth adultery.


(Bible in Basic English) But I say to you that everyone who puts away his wife
for any other cause but the loss of her virtue, makes her false to her husband;
and whoever takes her as his wife after she is PUT AWAY, is no true husband
to her.


(Darby) But I say unto you, that whosoever shall put away his wife, except for
cause of fornication, makes her commit adultery, and whosoever marries one
that is PUT AWAY commits adultery.


(DRB) But I say to you, that whosoever shall put away his wife, excepting the
cause of fornication, maketh her to commit adultery: and he that shall marry her
that is PUT AWAY, committeth adultery.


(LITV) But I say to you, Whoever puts away his wife, apart from a matter of
fornication, causes her to commit adultery. And whoever shall marry the one
PUT AWAY commits adultery.


(MKJV) But I say to you that whoever shall put away his wife, except for the cause
of fornication, causes her to commit adultery. And whoever shall marry her who is
PUT AWAY commits adultery.


(Worldwide English) But I tell you, no man may send away his wife unless she has
committed adultery. If he does send her away, he is making her commit adultery.
And if a man marries a woman who has been sent away from her husband, he
commits adultery.’

[/font][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] (World English Bible) But I tell you that whoever puts away his wife, except for
the cause of sexual immorality, makes her an adulteress; and whoever marries her
when she is put away commits adultery.
[/font]

[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] (WYC) But I say to you, that every man that leaveth his wife [that every man
that shall leave his wife], except (for) [the] cause of fornication, maketh her to do
lechery, and he that weddeth the forsaken wife, doeth adultery.


(Youngs Literal Translation) But I—I say to you, that whoever may PUT AWAY
his wife, save for the matter of whoredom, doth make her to commit adultery; and
whoever may marry her who hath been PUT AWAY doth commit adultery.

[/font][font=Verdana, Arial]But, “Apoluo” is not the verb form of “apostasion,” that would be aphistemi. They are different words but similar in meaning.
Here is a quote I found that explins a little more…

Divorce in the New Testament

In the Greek New Testament the verb translated ?to divorce? is apoluo. The root meaning of apoluo is ?set free, release, pardon,? or ?let go, send away, dismiss.?5 One of the most frequent usages of apoluo in the New Testament is in the sense of setting someone free. It is used of the releasing of Barabbas (Mark 15:15). It also appears when Agrippa said that Paul could have been set free if he had not appealed to Caesar (Acts 26:32). When the writer of Hebrews said that Timothy had been set at liberty, he also used apoluo (Hebrews 13:23).
Apoluo is also translated as forgive (Luke 6:37). In Luke 2:29, when S~mon saw the child Jesus and prayed, ?Now lettest thou thy servant depart,? the word translated ?depart,? signifying death, is apoluo.
The noun form used in the New Testament, divorcement, is the Greek apostasion. It carries with it the idea of relinquishing property after sale, of giving up one?s claim.6 Apostasion comes from the verb aphistemi, which literally means ?to stand away from.? The verb carries the idea of leaving, forsaking. A closely related word, apostasia (from which we get our word apostasy) is used in Acts 21:21, where some said that Paul taught the people to forsake Moses. It also appears in 2 Thessalonians 2:3, where Paul said the falling away would come before the second coming.

The New Testament equivalent of the bill of divorcement (sepher kenthuth) of Deuteronomy 24:1 is biblion apostasiou. This literally means ?a book of separation, dismissal,? it appears in Matthew 19:7. Apostasion also occurs in Matthew 5:31.

In the New Testament both the verb for ?divorce? (apoluo) and the noun (apostasiop) continue the Old Testament concept of complete dissolution of the marriage bond. In both Testaments the meaning of divorce is clearly more than putting away the wife with separate bed and board. It is granting freedom for the party to marry again.
Neale Pryor. Divorce ? It?s Meaning. Your Marriage Can Be Great. Thomas B. Warren, Ed. (98-104).[/font]
 
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RJHarmony84 said:
Whaaa? :p I mean, I've already established that I'm going to get a divorce, and that he has 'abandoned' me...so since he left me spiritually, I want to know what there is in the bible for/about making it permanent... *confused* :scratch:

A divorce does make it permanent. In the OT if you divorced and remarried, then divorced again, you couldn't go back to your first husband.

I don't really understand what you mean by permanent though, as in can you divorce him then go back to him?
 
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RJHarmony84 said:
Whaaa? :p I mean, I've already established that I'm going to get a divorce, and that he has 'abandoned' me...so since he left me spiritually, I want to know what there is in the bible for/about making it permanent... *confused* :scratch:

Where do you read a woman may divorce her husband.:scratch:
 
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Maybe I will re-post it there, if the Mods will allow it *waves to mods* :wave:
the bible doesn't exacly say a wife may divorce her husband, just that a spouse may divorce thier spouse, or the husband divorce the wife. But I'm pretty sure Jesus meant it to go both ways...and that's a topic for another thread, lol. ;)
 
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Hi

It sounds like you are not sure you wish to get a divorce and are trying to justify it.

If you can, get a book "The unexpected legacy of Divorce" By Judith Wallestein.

Hope this will help.

Some other books are victroy over darkness by Neil Anderson and bondage breaker by the same person.

Pray and follow the holy spirit gudance that is with in you meditate and pray.

Hope this helps

Your Brother in Christ.
Wayne
 
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RJHarmony84 said:
Maybe I will re-post it there, if the Mods will allow it *waves to mods* :wave:
the bible doesn't exacly say a wife may divorce her husband, just that a spouse may divorce thier spouse, or the husband divorce the wife. But I'm pretty sure Jesus meant it to go both ways...and that's a topic for another thread, lol. ;)

Sure. Its probably just a minor technicality.
 
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Johnnz said:
Adultery is a valid biblical ground for divorce. So is a non Christian who no longer wants a Christian wife.

Once you are divorced you are free from all mutual obligations as married people.

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If adultery is the only valid Biblical reason for divorce, then you can't add anything to that.

But I agree, once you are divorced, you are free.
 
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okiemommy26 said:
Well it isn't a sin when something like cheating or if your spouse leaves you and he is a nonchristian.

:scratch: Do you mean that you think it IS a sin to divorce when that isn't the case? Now in my case he did cheat, too, but what if he had only been abusive? I don't know if the Bible says anything about punishments/consequences for husbands who beat thier wives, force thier wives, or even simply continually disrespect thier wives! (or the other way around, too, wives abusing husbands, for that matter) I've looked and looked, never found anything about it...
But I don't think Jesus wanted me to stay in a place where I would fear for my life, either. :crossrc:
 
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RJHarmony84 said:
:scratch: Do you mean that you think it IS a sin to divorce when that isn't the case? Now in my case he did cheat, too, but what if he had only been abusive? I don't know if the Bible says anything about punishments/consequences for husbands who beat thier wives, force thier wives, or even simply continually disrespect thier wives! (or the other way around, too, wives abusing husbands, for that matter) I've looked and looked, never found anything about it...
But I don't think Jesus wanted me to stay in a place where I would fear for my life, either. :crossrc:


I am sorry I did not add that in. I do agree with you the abuse part too. I do not think a person should stay with a husband or wife that is abusing them. You should not have to stay with someone is hurting you and I don't think Jesus would want you to either. I can't find it in the Bible either. I am just saying it is a sin when a person just wants out for no reason just because they don't want to be married anymore.
 
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Svt4Him said:
If adultery is the only valid Biblical reason for divorce, then you can't add anything to that.

1 Cor 7:12-16
To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. But if the unbeliever leaves, let him do so. A believing man or woman is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. NIV

I had this scripture in mind when I replied

John
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okiemommy26 said:
I am sorry I did not add that in. I do agree with you the abuse part too. I do not think a person should stay with a husband or wife that is abusing them. You should not have to stay with someone is hurting you and I don't think Jesus would want you to either. I can't find it in the Bible either. I am just saying it is a sin when a person just wants out for no reason just because they don't want to be married anymore.

I agree :clap: there should be a very VERY good reason. and there is.
 
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