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[OldWiseGuy]

Oh, Yeshua also told the crowds at times: turn to Yhwh, BECAUSE HIS KINGDOM IS HERE, AT HAND....... and some became members. not many, but some.

We are ambassadors of the coming kingdom, not the kingdom itself. The kingdom is a thought within us at this time, and it is real in that sense.

 

[W2L]

Oh, Yeshua also told the crowds at times: turn to Yhwh, BECAUSE HIS KINGDOM IS HERE, AT HAND....... and some became members. not many, but some.

Kinda like this

Philippians 4:4 Rejoice in the Lord always. Again I will say, rejoice!

5 Let your gentleness be known to all men. The Lord is at hand.

6 Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; 7 and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

 

[W2L]

We are ambassadors of the coming kingdom, not the kingdom itself. The kingdom is a thought within us at this time, and it is real in that sense.

Its not a mere thought. God is with us.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Its not a mere thought. God is with us.

Not with everyone.
Many are not in His Kingdom.

Only a few are. The remnant.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Like one of the oldest proverbs, proven true always:

Before getting your son an 'education', give him a trade. (then he can make a living when no one else might, and then he can get an education if he wants)

Good advice. My son worked construction jobs while going to school. There are presently no jobs in his field but he is now an experienced concrete finisher making $35 an hour with great benny's.

 

[W2L]

Not with everyone.
Many are not in His Kingdom.

Only a few are. The remnant.

Maybe that's because people don't take Galatians 5-6 seriously.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Maybe that's because people don't take Galatians 5-6 seriously.

Perhaps.
Jesus still says "Whoever is thirsty, come...."
and
Jesus says He will never turn anyone away who comes to Him
and
Jesus says "THANKS AND PRAISE TO YOU FATHER IN HEAVEN
for revealing all about salvation in this life and in the life to come
to babes ! (who might not ever read Galatians)....

But yes, Galatians and all Scripture is absolutely TRUE, and never changing.

 

[Landon Caeli]

I have no idea what it's like to have a billion dollars while others suffer. Likewise, I have no idea what it's like to want the rich to give me what they have. My conscience matches neither.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I have no idea what it's like to have a billion dollars while others suffer.

From what Scripture says plainly , Genesis through Revelation,
you certainly DON'T want to know.

Instead, what is it Jesus said for all of us to do ?
What is it Jesus said each one of us was to give to others (physically) ?
Something we have,
or something we don't have ?

Remember He said , and Yochanan the immerser said,
"If you have TWO shirts.....
not
"If you have ONE shirt....
and so on....

 

[chandraclaws]

Now you are advocating lawlessness,government was ordained by God to regulate human behavior towards righteousness,they are currently failing but its better than anarchy

That is why I don't understand conservative anti-government sentiment. Some groups advocate for no government at all.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

That is why I don't understand conservative anti-government sentiment. Some groups advocate for no government at all.

How about Biblical recognition that all government of man will be wiped out when/after Yeshua returns
just as Israel had no government of man before they sinfully desired a government like other countries had ? (and they were punished for it)

 

[W2L]

That is why I don't understand conservative anti-government sentiment. Some groups advocate for no government at all.

I'm not one of them. I belive in submitting to law enforcement, but I don't believe in dividing the church over the deceptions of politics. Politics are a game that are designed to divide people. That's what politicians do, divide and conquer. They divide the Church as well.

 

[chandraclaws]

How about Biblical recognition that all government of man will be wiped out when/after Yeshua returns...

Of course, there would be no need for it. But until then government has a purpose. Would you prefer complete lawlessness and anarchy?

 

[Received]

A Black Lives Matter rioter said: 'Rich People Got all this Money and They Ain't Tryin' to Give Us None'

The sense of entitlement is breathtaking. To think that he, or anyone else, is entitled to someone else's money is at the heart of whats wrong with the BLM movement.

And there's the whole hidden philosophical underpinning that slips by in virtually every political discussion regardless of your leanings.

Is the money a person has rightfully his? That's the whole question the Black Lives Matter person is instinctively getting at, and what all liberals are getting at when they support measures like increased progressive taxation. With the huge decreases in pay with increasing hours (the "big economic squeeze") concurrent with extreme gains in wealth and income going to the top few percent, anyone with a sense of justice can see the problem for what it's worth. It's only people like neoconservatives who think the cash the rich (and especially the super-rich) have is justified.

So yeah, many members of the rich class aren't entitled, ethically, to the money they're making. Ethically, speaking of what a person should make relative to his actual work, things are very different than how the market works, which is purely according to demand. Poor people should be getting more money; the whole phrase "the working poor" shouldn't even exist. They're the ones working their asses off and getting crumbs while the super-rich are bogging down aggregate demand by not even being capable of spending the money they make.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Of course, there would be no need for it. But until then government has a purpose. Would you prefer complete lawlessness and anarchy?

hahaha, no , not at all.... just was asking for what you thought.

IN fact, a few seconds before reading your post and replying, I just posted against lawlessness.

 

[chandraclaws]

Politics are a game that are designed to divide people. That's what politicians do, divide and conquer. They divide the Church as well.

I believe you're right. I've never seen the divisions in this country to be so extremely polarized than they have been during this election. It stirs up anger and hatred among the people, even among Christians who are called to love.

"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."
John 13:34-35

 

[W2L]

And there's the whole hidden philosophical underpinning that slips by in virtually every political discussion regardless of your leanings.

Is the money a person has rightfully his? That's the whole question the Black Lives Matter person is instinctively getting at, and what all liberals are getting at when they support measures like increased progressive taxation. With the huge decreases in pay with increasing hours (the "big economic squeeze") concurrent with extreme gains in wealth and income going to the top few percent, anyone with a sense of justice can see the problem for what it's worth. It's only people like neoconservatives who think the cash the rich (and especially the super-rich) have is justified.

So yeah, many members of the rich class aren't entitled, ethically, to the money they're making. Ethically, speaking of what a person should make relative to his actual work, things are very different than how the market works, which is purely according to demand. Poor people should be getting more money; the whole phrase "the working poor" shouldn't even exist. They're the ones working their asses off and getting crumbs while the super-rich are bogging down aggregate demand by not even being capable of spending the money they make.

Not that I'm arguing entitlement, but you raise an interesting question. Is a person entitled to more money than they need? Who is entitled to 50 million dollars? That's insane.

 

[chandraclaws]

Do you not trust ANY bible 100% at all? Even when god said there IS a bible that is 100% the truth!!!!!

The King James Bible? God said that?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

God said that?

no.

His Word is Trustworthy and True. He guards His Word and Reveals it to whom He chooses. (i.e. it is not by study we learn who the Messiah is, and not by study anything is revealed by the Father to us --- Jesus Praises the Father instead for REVEALING SALVATION and everything concerning salvation to BABES and hiding it from scholars (which makes the scholars mad unless they have been born again and grown in grace and in truth in Christ Jesus)....

 

[chandraclaws]

hahaha, no , not at all.... just was asking for what you thought.

IN fact, a few seconds before reading your post and replying, I just posted against lawlessness.

Trying to find your post.