7 Day creation- literal or figurative?

[-57]

Also, the Hebrew word for rested from ALL of His work is written in Hebrew Imperfect Tense, which means the action is not yet complete.

Post 739...go up two post...say COMPLETED. When you directly contradict the bible and say "action is not yet complete"....I just can't take you seriously.

 

[SkyWriting]

He is the only way. This is true. But He is not a wooden plank with a knob.

But if I suggest a certain poster is one, you'd get my drift.

 

[Aman777]

For the THIRD time tonight....Gen 2 tells us "1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed,and all their hosts. 2 By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done"

That's what the bible says. Maybe your bible doesn't say completed.

The rest presented in Gen 2:1-2 PERTAINS to the previous six days. There is no reference to future work.

The reason Genesis 2 tells us the heavens and earth were completed, which in Hebrew means brought to perfection, is that it is the HISTORY of God's Creation. God wrote the ENTIRE History of His Creation of the perfect Heaven in the first 34 verses of Genesis, BEFORE the events at the end of the present 6th Day are complete.

WHEN the perfect God finishes/completes any work, it is PERFECT when He completes His work. IF you think this lost and dying world, where 20k children die before the age of 5, every day, your religion needs to be corrected. God will NOT rest or cease creating until DEATH is destroyed.

1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

 

[Aman777]

Is God literally the sun too? And at the same time, literally a shield?

For the Lord God is a sun and shield;
he bestows favor and honor.
No good thing does the Lord withhold
from those who walk uprightly. - Psalm 84:11

Yes, as Jesus showed us when the Sun didn't go down for an entire day as
Jos 10:13 clearly states. IOW, Scripture speaks of Jesus as being brighter than the Sun. Try again?

 

[Aman777]

Post 739...go up two post...say COMPLETED. When you directly contradict the bible and say "action is not yet complete"....I just can't take you seriously.

I didn't say it. The Hebrew tense says it. What is indicated is further study on your part.

 

[Aman777]

But if I suggest a certain poster is one, you'd get my drift.

Then tell us of another literal door to Heaven. I don't think you can. Fool me.

 

[SkyWriting]

Then tell us of another literal door to Heaven. I don't think you can. Fool me.

No, I don't believe you are. I recant.

 

[BrianJK]

Yes, as Jesus showed us when the Sun didn't go down for an entire day as
Jos 10:13 clearly states. IOW, Scripture speaks of Jesus as being brighter than the Sun. Try again?

That's still a metaphor.

 

[Aman777]

That's still a metaphor.

Not so, since Jesus IS the cause of the Literal Sun not going down. IF the normal Sun had stopped in Heaven, the Milky Way Galaxy would have been scattered all over the Universe. Jesus was literally the Sun which did not set that Day. If you don't believe me, then believe the Author of Scripture, the Holy Spirit. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

No, I don't believe you are. I recant.

Since, I've never claimed to be the door to Heaven, your reply makes no sense. Try again?

 

[BrianJK]

Not so, since Jesus IS the cause of the Literal Sun not going down. IF the normal Sun had stopped in Heaven, the Milky Way Galaxy would have been scattered all over the Universe. Jesus was literally the Sun which did not set that Day. If you don't believe me, then believe the Author of Scripture, the Holy Spirit. Amen?

Scripture says that God created the sun. Are you saying that Jesus is merely a created entity? Literally?

 

[Kenneth Redden]

Adam and Eve BOTH were created at the SAME time and on the SAME Day as is EVERY other Christian. Adam was "formed" on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4-7....BUT....was not "created" until the 6th Day. Gen 1:27 Eve was made AFTER the beasts of the field and birds on the 6th Day. Gen 2:22 To be "created in God's Image" is to be born again Spiritually, in Christ, and this happened AFTER Cain killed Abel. Gen 5:1-2 Amen?

I disagree, man must have been created from the beginning of the Creation, look at the man, Melchisedec, is he not from everlasting? Hebrews 7:3. Nevertheless, Genesis one says that man was made on the sixth day after being created at some earlier time.

 

[Aman777]

Scripture says that God created the sun. Are you saying that Jesus is merely a created entity? Literally?

No. I am saying that since Jesus is brighter than the noonday Sun and blinded Saul on the road to Damascus, He is the reason Joshua thought the Sun didn't set. Remember that He is also the light of Heaven. Rev 21:23

 

[Aman777]

I disagree, man must have been created from the beginning of the Creation, look at the man, Melchisedec, is he not from everlasting? Hebrews 7:3. Nevertheless, Genesis one says that man was made on the sixth day after being created at some earlier time.

Melchisedec is Jesus in the OT. Gen 2:4-7 tells us Adam was formed BEFORE the plants, herbs and rain on the 3rd Day. Eve was NOT made until the 6th Day. Gen 2:22 This is important since BOTH A&E were "created in God's Image" or born again Spiritually in Christ, at the SAME time, AFTER Cain killed Abel. Gen 5:1-2

 

[BrianJK]

No. I am saying that since Jesus is brighter than the noonday Sun and blinded Saul on the road to Damascus, He is the reason Joshua thought the Sun didn't set. Remember that He is also the light of Heaven. Rev 21:23

If Jesus is brighter than the sun, He can't literally BE the sun. So therefore, some figurative language DOES exist in Scripture. Likewise, Jesus's followers aren't literally salt.

 

[-57]

Melchisedec is Jesus in the OT. Gen 2:4-7 tells us Adam was formed BEFORE the plants, herbs and rain on the 3rd Day. Eve was NOT made until the 6th Day. Gen 2:22 This is important since BOTH A&E were "created in God's Image" or born again Spiritually in Christ, at the SAME time, AFTER Cain killed Abel. Gen 5:1-2

Wrong. That's been shown to be a non-baptist heritical position.

 

[OzSpen]

Well, okay. How do you reconcile the plural form of, "heavens," in Genesis 2:1?
The reason why the 7th day has no evening or morning is because the 7th day exists in the everlasting, from whence comes Genesis 1:1.

Who said? That's not what the text says. You haven't dealt with the evidence I provided.

 

[OzSpen]

The idea that God is "resting" is not true since the Trinity is STILL working today. IF God had already rested (Heb-ceased) from ALL of His work, it would be impossible to be saved today. God's 7th Day has not ending because it's eternity.

Why do you ignore the evidence I presented from Genesis and Hebrews?

 

[OzSpen]

I personally have no problem with a 6 day view, as since expansion is claimed to have happened faster than c then the correction for time dilation would be exponential. After all, a thousand years...... What is a day to a God of energy that controls the very thing we are made of and causes the changes to those clocks?

Nor do I have a problem with long periods. After all I certainly do not believe that all the animals were brought before Adam to be named and that he did so in a mere day.

Nor do I believe God would warn Adam about actions that would lead to death and punish him for it if Adam was not aware what death was. I believe Adam was in the garden for an unspecified period in which he not only named all the animals but observed them mating, giving birth and also dying.

How could he understand what death was without ever having observed it?

So are you saying that you are unsure what the length of days is in Genesis 1-2? St. Augustine couldn't decide either.

 

[OzSpen]

Of old hast thou laid the foundations....

Do you think the writer of scripture thought a mere 2000 some years were of old?

How long do you think it took Adam to name all the animals?

Did God punish Adam unjustly warning him he would die without him having first hand knowledge of what death was? Animals were born, lived their lives and died, thus Adam understood the punishment for disobedience. Would God punish him without his understanding the consequences? Not my God, maybe yours.

Just,

Argument from silence is a logical fallacy. We will not be able to have a reasonable conversation if you use this fallacious reasoning.

Oz