7 Day creation- literal or figurative?

[Aman777]

I think the purpose of Genesis 1:30 is to verify that animals were not privy to every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Why would you think that since the verse you posted says?

I have given every green herb for meat

Green herbs are not Trees.

Gen 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after His kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after His kind: and God saw that it was good.

 

[Aman777]

Okay, what do you need to know?

Show us of the "everlasting" first Day.
Explain WHY Gen 1:10 tells us the first Earth was made the 3rd Day.
Explain HOW we could still be living in the 3rd Day, Scripturally.

 

[-57]

Sure. I will believe anything. Presumably that light switched itself on and off at twelve hour intervals, as well.

Or the world was rotating...you know, no switch required.

 

[lesliedellow]

Or the world was rotating...you know, no switch required.

Ah, so there was a light source; just not the Sun. So why not just create the Sun, and have done with it?

 

[-57]

Not so since you, nor anyone else, can show us a time in History when ALL living creatures were Vegetarians:

Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

If this verse isn't prophecy, then show us when, in the past, that Lions ate straw like the ox:

Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. Isa 11:8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. Isa 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea. Isa 11:10 ¶ And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and His rest shall be glorious.

Jesus is the root of Jesse, who was David's father, which reveals that the prophecy of Gen 1:30 happens AFTER Jesus returns to this planet at Armageddon. If you disagree, then post supporting Scripture which refutes these verses.

I have no clue as to what in the world you are talking about. Perhaps it's because your theology is based upon broken theology previously posted by you.

 

[-57]

Ah, so there was a light source; just not the Sun. So why not just create the Sun, and have done with it?

It's not the way God decided to do it.

 

[lesliedellow]

It's not the way God decided to do it.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[-57]

Show us of the "everlasting" first Day.
Explain WHY Gen 1:10 tells us the first Earth was made the 3rd Day.
Explain HOW we could still be living in the 3rd Day, Scripturally.

The bible tells us the formless and void earth was made on day 1.

 

[GenemZ]

Genesis 1 is, amongst other things, a quiet polemic against the pagan gods. Whereas they were thought of as having responsibility for different aspects of creation, Genesis 1 is saying that the God of Israel is Creator and Lord of all things.

No God did not create the universe in seven days.

That's correct. It says... In the beginning God created the heavens and earth." That was done before day one began. What we find in Genesis One is the creation of our present world, than now covers over the prehistoric creations that came first. And, the Word of God tells us that God will once again replace our world with a new one. Isaiah prophesied about there is going to be a "new heavens and new earth." That this present creation will not be in anyone's memory. Look here and see that what this present created world will become. It will become like the buried creations of the dinosaurs... https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+65:17-25

 

[-57]

That's correct. It says... In the beginning God created the heavens and earth." That was done before day one began. What we find in Genesis One is the creation of our present world, than now covers over the prehistoric creations that came first. And, the Word of God tells us that God will once again replace our world with a new one. Isaiah prophesied about there is going to be a "new heavens and new earth." That this present creation will not be in anyone's memory. Look here and see that what this present created world will become. It will become like the buried creations of the dinosaurs... https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+65:17-25

The prehistoric world was the pre-flood world that existed between Adam and Noah.
The dinosaurs fossils we find today were a direct result of being buried in the flood sediment.

 

[GenemZ]

The bible tells us the formless and void earth was made on day 1.

It was found to be in utter chaos and had an eerie sense of emptiness about like. Like a demolished city after an atomic blast had settled down. The Hebrew words are not mildly put as we find in the KJV. It means utter ruin and emptiness. Tohu we bohu is a term for terrible judgement by God. Jeremiah in his warning to rebellious Israel was snatched right out from Genesis 1:2. He was telling them that they were going to end up as the earth was as found in Genesis 1:2! Utter destruction... and empty (in the eerie sense of the word)... Like Hiroshima looked after the atomic blast settled down. Utterly destroyed.


Jeremiah 4:23-26

23 I looked at the earth,
and it was formless and empty;
and at the heavens,
and their light was gone.
24 I looked at the mountains,
and they were quaking;
all the hills were swaying.
25 I looked, and there were no people;
every bird in the sky had flown away.
26 I looked, and the fruitful land was a desert;
all its towns lay in ruins
before the Lord, before his fierce anger.

We must find where the Hebrew words are used throughout Scripture to get the correct feel and sense for what was being expressed in Genesis 1:2... It is not some flowery thought ... "formless and empty." Its about judgment and utter destruction of where live once existed. For the old earth which had been run by Lucifer and his angels had come under final judgment, and God wiped it out of existence for its last time (Gen 1:2). Now, in our new created world, man was to have dominion over the earth. No longer angels.

 

[GenemZ]

The prehistoric world was the pre-flood world that existed between Adam and Noah.
The dinosaurs fossils we find today were a direct result of being buried in the flood sediment.

The dinosaur flood was the raging waters we find covering the earth in Genesis One. Noah's flood was local, and designed only to wipe out evil mankind. Man was in his infancy at that time and only covered a small patch on the earth. No universal flood was need for Noah's day. All the "known" earth was destroyed. No need to destroy the earth where man never lived at that time.

 

[Aman777]

The bible tells us the formless and void earth was made on day 1.

Not so since the Earth was NOT made until the 3rd Day. Gen 1:10

Gen 1:10 And God called the dry land Earth;

Notice that the KJV even capitlized the word Earth.

The earth (Heb-ground) which was made on the first Day was dirt or dust without form. It was part of the air, dust and water which was used by the Light/Jesus to form and shape everything that exists in physical form. On Day 1, it was contaminated by Death/darkness and still is. At the end of the present 6th Day/Age, death will be destroyed:

1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

 

[Aman777]

It's not the way God decided to do it.

The Light of the first Day is YHWH/Jesus. He came forth from within the invisible Spirit of God into the physical world as the ONLY God ever formed physically or that EVER will be formed physically. Isa 43:10

 

[Aman777]

That's correct. It says... In the beginning God created the heavens and earth." That was done before day one began. What we find in Genesis One is the creation of our present world, than now covers over the prehistoric creations that came first. And, the Word of God tells us that God will once again replace our world with a new one. Isaiah prophesied about there is going to be a "new heavens and new earth." That this present creation will not be in anyone's memory. Look here and see that what this present created world will become. It will become like the buried creations of the dinosaurs... https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+65:17-25

Not quite since Adam's Earth was placed in the firmament or boundary of the first Heaven, which was made in the middle of water on the 2nd Day. Gen 1:6-8 Lord God/Jesus made other HeavenS on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4 He made our present 2nd Heaven AND the 3rd Heaven of ll Cor 12:2, also called the New Heaven and New Earth in Rev 21:1.

 

[Kenneth Redden]

Why would you think that since the verse you posted says?

I have given every green herb for meat

Green herbs are not Trees.

Gen 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after His kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after His kind: and God saw that it was good.

But Genesis 1:30 is speaking of what the animals have to eat in the everlasting. The tree yielding fruit is not mentioned. My point is that the tree yielding fruit is not mentioned for those of the third day of the Creation, Genesis 9:3. Could this be the result of Genesis 3:24?

 

[Aman777]

The prehistoric world was the pre-flood world that existed between Adam and Noah.
The dinosaurs fossils we find today were a direct result of being buried in the flood sediment.

Not really, since Dinosaurs went extinct 65 million years BEFORE the Ark brought the first Humans (descendants of Adam) to our Planet. The sons of God (prehistoric people) left their bones on our Earth for millions of years BEFORE the Ark arrived. You have confused Adam's Earth, which was clean dissolved in the flood, with the world which is NOW.

 

[GenemZ]

Not so since the Earth was NOT made until the 3rd Day. Gen 1:10

Gen 1:10 And God called the dry land Earth;

Notice that the KJV even capitlized the word Earth.

The earth (Heb-ground) which was made on the first Day was dirt or dust without form. It was part of the air, dust and water which was used by the Light/Jesus to form and shape everything that exists in physical form. On Day 1, it was contaminated by Death/darkness and still is. At the end of the present 6th Day/Age, death will be destroyed:

1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Oye vey....

The planet earth.. and the land found on the planet earth, called "earth"... are not holding the same meaning. For the planet earth also includes water in its make up.

Do you really need to be told these things? Nit pickers make interpretation into weary battles of petty point-making.

Please... Its also says that the earth was formless and void before we see your example of what you claimed is the earth.

Genesis 1:10 could accurately be rendered.... "God called the dry ground "land," and the gathered waters he called "seas." And God saw that it was good.

 

[Aman777]

It was found to be in utter chaos and had an eerie sense of emptiness about like. Like a demolished city after an atomic blast had settled down. The Hebrew words are not mildly put as we find in the KJV. It means utter ruin and emptiness. Tohu we bohu is a term for terrible judgement by God. Jeremiah in his warning to rebellious Israel was snatched right out from Genesis 1:2. He was telling them that they were going to end up as the earth was as found in Genesis 1:2! Utter destruction... and empty (in the eerie sense of the word)... Like Hiroshima looked after the atomic blast settled down. Utterly destroyed.


Jeremiah 4:23-26

23 I looked at the earth,
and it was formless and empty;
and at the heavens,
and their light was gone.
24 I looked at the mountains,
and they were quaking;
all the hills were swaying.
25 I looked, and there were no people;
every bird in the sky had flown away.
26 I looked, and the fruitful land was a desert;
all its towns lay in ruins
before the Lord, before his fierce anger.

We must find where the Hebrew words are used throughout Scripture to get the correct feel and sense for what was being expressed in Genesis 1:2... It is not some flowery thought ... "formless and empty." Its about judgment and utter destruction of where live once existed. For the old earth which had been run by Lucifer and his angels had come under final judgment, and God wiped it out of existence for its last time (Gen 1:2). Now, in our new created world, man was to have dominion over the earth. No longer angels.

Jeremiah is speaking of the first world, which was totally destroyed in the flood. ll Peter 3:6 The Gap between Gen 1:1-2 is NOT Scriptural.

 

[Aman777]

Oye vey....

The planet earth.. and the land found on the planet earth, called "earth"... are not holding the same meaning. For the planet earth also includes water in its make up.

Amen, since God put water in the bottom of the hollow firmament first and then put Adam's Flat Earth on top of the water. The mountains on the 1st Earth were covered with water when the water reached a depth of only 22.5 feet/15 cubits. Gen 7:20

*** Do you really need to be told these things? Nit pickers make interpretation into weary battles of petty point-making.

Please... Its also says that the earth was formless and void before we see your example of what you claimed is the earth.

That is because it wasn't an Earth but formless dust, which was one of the THREE creation elements of air, dust and water, of which EVERYTHING that was made consists.

*** Genesis 1:10 could accurately be rendered.... "God called the dry ground "land," and the gathered waters he called "seas." And God saw that it was good.

Amen. I like the Hebrew word for Seas, which means "a roaring". It's the sound which the water made when God took water from under the firmament and put it inside the hollow firmament Gen 1:9 which protected Adam's Earth from the water which surrounded it, and which later totally destroyed it. ll Peter 3:6

I don't mean to be a nit picker but only to understand Scripture for what it actually says instead of the superstitious religious views of men who lived thousands of years BEFORE Science.