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Not all Christian have viewed or view Jesus as God incarnate.
Genesis 1:27 indicates continuous action? Where are you finding that in the Hebrew?Amen, you got it. Today remains the 6th Day at Gen 1:27 until God stops creating mankind in His Image or in Christ Spiritually AND after Jesus rules and reigns for a thousand years on Planet Earth after His return. Gen 1:28-31 is prophecy of Future events which will happen AFTER Jesus returns.
Please familiarize yourself with the history of Christendom and how the Trinity doctrine GRADUALLY came to predominate only after centuries of controversy and only with the intervention of secular Roman influence for the sake of political unity.Evidently, you do not know what a Christian is. Paul once said that not all of Israel is Israel. Same principle applies.
The Nicene was not a popular creed when it was signed. Durant affirms that the majority of Eastern bishops sided with Arius in that they believed Christ was the Son of God ‘neither consubstantial nor co-eternal’ with his Father (Age 7). Arianism has never been truly quenched. While the West accepted the Athanasian view of the Trinity, and the East accepted the Trinity of the Cappadocian fathers, Arianism lives on in the Unitarian Church, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and in many smaller religions.
There is an unfortunate side to the whole Athanasian/Arian debate. Campbell could find no parallel in medieval nor modern times in the intensity of debate (49). Historically, this ‘doctrine of God’ has proved to be a bloody doctrine that has no relation to the true God of love, nor His Son Jesus Christ. Durant details the problems that arose from the Council at Nicea and summarizes that period with a dreadful verdict: ‘Probably more Christians were slaughtered by Christians in these two years (342-3) than by all the persecutions of Christians by pagans in the history of Rome’ (Age 8). Thus they perverted the teachings of Christ: ‘Love thy neighbor as thyself’,{# Mt 19:19} and of his apostles: ‘If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and His love is perfected in us’.{# 1Jo 4:12}
The evolution of the Trinity can be well seen in the words of the Apostles’ Creed, Nicene Creed, and the Athanasian Creed.2 As each of the creeds became more wordy and convoluted, the simple, pure faith of the Apostolic church became lost in a haze. Even more interesting is the fact that as the creeds became more specific (and less scriptural) the adherence to them became stricter, and the penalty for disbelief harsher.
In summary, the common culture of the day was one filled with triune gods. From ancient Sumeria’s Anu, Enlil, and Enki and Egypt’s dual trinities of Amun-Re-Ptah and Isis, Osiris, and Horus to Rome’s Jupiter, Juno, and Minerva the whole concept of paganism revolved around the magic number of three. In Greek philosophy, also, we have seen how the number three was used as an unspecified trinity of intelligence, mind, and reason.
In stark contrast, is the simple oneness of the Hebrew God. Jesus was a Jew from the tribe of Judah. He claimed to be sent to the ‘lost sheep of the house of Israel’.{# Mt 15:24} His apostles were all Jews. His god was the Jewish God. He called himself the Son of God and acknowledged his role as the Christ, {#Mt 16:15-17} and the Messiah. {#Joh 4:25-26} His message was one of love, righteousness, and salvation, and he despised the religious dogma of tradition. What a contrast from the proceedings of the Council of Nicea and the murders that followed! He gave the good news of his coming kingdom to the poor and meek: the lowly of this world. He did not require dogmatic creeds that had to be believed to the word, but rather said, ‘Follow me’.{# Mt 9:9}
http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/Contents/doctrine/The%20Origin%20of%20the%20Trinity.htm[/quote]
Please familiarize yourself with the history of Christendom and how the Trinity doctrine GRADUALLY came to predominate only after centuries of controversy and only with the intervention of secular Roman influence for the sake of political unity.
The Nicene Creed
Genesis 1:27 indicates continuous action? Where are you finding that in the Hebrew?
It only became an issue when it was challenged by heresy. The Nicene creed did not create the concept of the Trinity. It simply confirmed what had, up until then, been accepted throughout the churches. It was not a new teaching! Some think that the council at Nicea was the beginning of this understanding. It had been long standing and not questioned. Why? Even regenerate rabbis prior to the church age knew about the Torah speaking of God being a Trinity!
Ancient Jewish Writings
About the Trinity http://www.layevangelism.com/qreference/chapter10e.htm#Top of Page
-------------------------------------Truth or Tradition?
Do You Have to Believe in the Trinity to be Saved?
According to orthodox Trinitarian doctrine, if a person claims to be a Christian but does not believe in the Trinity, he is not saved. [1] Is that the truth? Not from the evidence in the Bible. In fact, the evidence in Scripture is that a person can be saved without even knowing about the Trinity.
http://www.truthortradition.com/articles/do-you-have-to-believe-in-the-trinity-to-be-saved-2
Acts 1:24
And they prayed, "Lord, You know everyone's heart. Show us which of these two You have chosen
Romans 2:6
God "will repay each one according to his deeds."
1 Samuel 16:7 ►
New International Version
But the LORD said to Samuel, "Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The LORD does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart."
How can God create SINNERS in his image? Is God a sinner? THINK! (please)... Your wording is all wrong. God is not a sinner.Amen. My point is that WE are Adam (Heb-mankind). Today's Christians are STILL being created by the Trinity, a continuous action. Gen 1:27 and Gen 5:1-2 Jesus (Lord God) formed us but God (The Trinity) CONTINUES to "create" sinners in His Image or In Christ Spiritually, Today, at the end of the Day of Salvation, the present 6th Day. We MUST be born again Spiritually, by the Trinity" Gen 1:26 and John 14:16 in order to enter God's perfect Heaven. Rom 8:9
Actually, the essential difference between us isn't so much the acceptability or unacceptability of the Trinitarian idea as much as it is your vehement belief that it is absolutely necessary for salvation and that its acceptance or non-acceptance as a Christian doctrine either qualifies or disqualifies one as a Christian.
You placed the genuine Christianity of those who do not accept the Trinity as essential to salvation in serious doubt.your vehement belief that it is absolutely necessary for salvation ..... I said that?
Evidently, you do not know what a Christian is.
I understood him to mean transformed via being born again by means of holy spirit.How can God create SINNERS in his image? Is God a sinner? THINK! (please)... Your wording is all wrong. God is not a sinner.
Not questioned? LOL! Have you never read about what went on at the Council of Nicea???It only became an issue when it was challenged by heresy. The Nicene creed did not create the concept of the Trinity. It simply confirmed what had, up until then, been accepted throughout the churches. It was not a new teaching! Some think that the council at Nicea was the beginning of this understanding. It had been long standing and not questioned. Why? Even regenerate rabbis prior to the church age knew about the Torah speaking of God being a Trinity!
A Christian will be given the grace to see the Trinity as undeniable. A carnal Christian (who remains functioning outside of grace) will have his carnality exposed by his blindness, being unable to see the undeniable. To function as a Christian... and to be saved because you believed in Christ... are not one and the same. Paul warned that many (who will be going to heaven) do not function as God desires a Christian to be.You placed the genuine Christianity of those who do not accept the Trinity as essential to salvation in serious doubt.
You said:
Not questioned? LOL! Have you never read about what went on at the Council of Nicea???
How can God create SINNERS in his image? Is God a sinner? THINK! (please)... Your wording is all wrong. God is not a sinner.
I understood him to mean transformed via being born again by means of holy spirit.
I had NO IDEA that anything was supposed to happen to a person after accepting Jesus having died for his sins. When I was in college I accepted. How? After being handed a small pamphlet that explained salvation of the Cross. Where? While I was was walking down the main corridor on a college campus going to my next class. I simply wanted to say the prayer.
God (The Trinity) creates sinners in His Image, or in Christ Spiritually all the Day long. He's been doing this since Adam and Eve were the FIRST of mankind to be born again Spiritually in Christ or "created in God's Image" on the present 6th Day. Gen 1:27 and Gen 5:1-2
The Creation by the agreement of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is to make a sinner into a New Creature in Christ Spiritually and Eternally. No one has said that God is a sinner. That must be your Strawman. Amen?
He is not creating sinners today. It says he is taking sinners, and then TRANSFORMS sinners into His image.
2 Corinthians 3:18
And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed
into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.
words mean things and makes all the difference!
You believed in the Gospel of Jesus Christ, His dying for your sins and His resurrection the third day according to the Scriptures, according to l Cor 15:1-10 Those who believe His Gospel are born again Spiritually, in Christ, brother. It's the POWER of God unto salvation. Rom 1:16
I understood him to mean transformed via being born again by means of holy spirit.
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