7 Day creation- literal or figurative?

[Aman777]

Day 7 started and God rested. Clearly obvious. There is just no way around it, and according to scripture it has not ended yet.

Not quite since God's rest, when He ceases from ALL of His work of creating is future. The present 6th Day will NOT end until the last sinner to be saved is saved and safely within the "host" of Heaven. Gen 2:1

 

[Foghorn]

Not quite since God's rest, when He ceases from ALL of His work of creating is future. The present 6th Day will NOT end until the last sinner to be saved is saved and safely within the "host" of Heaven. Gen 2:1

Where do you get that from? day six came to an end. God did not reverse back to day 6

 

[-57]

Yes, therefore I do not think anyone who reads the creation account without preconceived ideas will come to the conclusion that it was a 6 day 24 hour period.

Then why does it say...day 1,2,3 etc, evening and morning?

You do know that the 24 hour long time frame was the "conclusion" until the old earth evolutionist came along and forced their view into scripture.

....so i strongly disagree with your opinion..."anyone who reads the creation account without preconceived ideas will come to the conclusion that it was a 6 day 24 hour period."

 

[Foghorn]

Not quite since God's rest, when He ceases from ALL of His work of creating is future. The present 6th Day will NOT end until the last sinner to be saved is saved and safely within the "host" of Heaven. Gen 2:1

Are you suggesting God is still creating and we are in day 6?

 

[Aman777]

Well number one scripture is concerned with the Triune and His creation, therefore when one tries to look at the time as literal 6, 24 hour periods, it don't fit. How could we have measured time up until the 4th day when God speaks of the sun and putting it in it's place? Scripture always implies a longer period then 24 hours, and no support for a literal 24 hour 6 day creation.

Amen. The Days of Genesis one are best understood as the beginning and end of one of God's periods of labor, in which He is creating the perfect 3rd Heaven. Since the Big Bang of our Cosmos was on the 3rd Day Gen 2:4 and we are currently living on the 6th Day, Gen 1:27 each of God's Days is some 4.5 Billion years in length in man's time. The 7th Day, since it has no end, no evening is Eternity since God has but 7 Days.

 

[Foghorn]

Then why does it say...day 1,2,3 etc, evening and morning?

You do know that the 24 hour long time frame was the "conclusion" until the old earth evolutionist came along and forced their view into scripture.

....so i strongly disagree with your opinion..."anyone who reads the creation account without preconceived ideas will come to the conclusion that it was a 6 day 24 hour period."

You just said yourself there are different meanings for the word day.

Hey, as far as I am concerned scripture does not identify a time, but it sure don't teach a liter 6 day 24 hour period.

And just when do you thing the old earth belief came around?

 

[-57]

You just said yourself there are different meanings for the word day.

Hey, as far as I am concerned scripture does not identify a time, but it sure don't teach a liter 6 day 24 hour period.

And just when do you thing the old earth belief came around?

Are you saying Jesus was in the grave for 3 undisclosed length of time? Perhaps for 3 eons? It surely sounds like you're saying this.

 

[Aman777]

Are you suggesting God is still creating and we are in day 6?

Amen. Just ask any Gospel preacher if you can STILL be created Eternally in Christ. God will NOT rest (cease creating) until the "host" of Heaven is complete. Gen 2:1 AFTER Heaven is filled with it's Christian host, Jesus will return and give mankind dominion or rule over every living creature, including Angels. Gen 1:28 and 1Co 6:3

 

[-57]

The early Christians...Barnabus in this example understood the days to be 24 hour long period of times. Keep in mind this text is extra biblical and not to be taken as inspired...but it does show their belief in a literal six day creation. If the days were "eons" then what Barnabus wrote wouldn't work.


15:2 And in another place he saith, If my sons shall

keep my sabbath, then will I place my mercy upon them.

15:3 He speaketh, too, of the sabbath in the

beginning of the creation: And God made in six days

the works of his hands, and finished them on the

seventh day, and rested in it and sanctified it.

15:4 Consider, my children, what signify the words,

He finished them in six days. They mean this: that in

six thousand years the Lord will make an end of all

things, for a day is with him as a thousand years. And

he himself beareth witness unto me, saying: Behold

this day a day shall be as a thousand years.

Therefore, my children, in six days, that is in six

thousand years, shall all things be brought to an end.

15:5 And the words, He rested on the seventh day,

signify this: After that his Son hath come, and hath

caused to cease the time of the wicked one, and hath

judged the ungodly, and changed the sun and the moon

and the stars, then shall he rest well on the seventh

day.

 

[Aman777]

Are you saying Jesus was in the grave for 3 undisclosed length of time? Perhaps for 3 eons? It surely sounds like you're saying this.

Jesus was in the grave Fri, Sat and rose again on Sun, the 3rd Day. Since He was a man, he was subject to the movement of the Stars within our 2nd Heaven.

 

[-57]

Foghorn, you do realize if God used long time periods to create....including evolution to create man rather then what Genesis informs us....T.U.L.I.P. fails.

 

[Aman777]

Then why doesn't it say...evening of day 7? This is what your theory needs to make it work.

It's because there is NO end, no evening to the Great Sabbath, the 7th Day which is Eternity. EVERY other Day has an ending and a beginning EXCEPT the 7th Day. Eternity is FOREVER and has no end. Amen?

 

[-57]

Jesus was in the grave Fri, Sat and rose again on Sun, the 3rd Day. Since He was a man, he was subject to the movement of the Stars within our 2nd Heaven.

...I'm not going to argue your cult like heresy.....Now, if you can present a web site from a respected denomination perhaps I'll take a look. But as far as I can tell you are the only one with your belief. Until you can do that I consider refuting you pretty much a waste of time.

 

[Aman777]

Where do you get that from? day six came to an end. God did not reverse back to day 6

There has NEVER been a time in the past when mankind had dominion or rule over mosquitoes, viruses or Angels. That is because Gen 1:28 is Prophecy. The has NEVER been a time in the past when ALL living creatures were vegetarians Gen 1:30 since it's Prophecy of a future event which will happen AFTER Jesus returns to this Earth. Isa 11:7

 

[Aman777]

...I'm not going to argue your cult like heresy.....Now, if you can present a web site from a respected denomination perhaps I'll take a look. But as far as I can tell you are the only one with your belief. Until you can do that I consider refuting you pretty much a waste of time.

Have you noticed that I support my views with Scripture? I can also support them Scientifically and Historically. This changes my religious views into Facts since they are supported in every way. So continue to believe ancient man's theology if you wish, but you will never understand God's Truth of the Creation. Amen?

 

[Foghorn]

Are you saying Jesus was in the grave for 3 undisclosed length of time? Perhaps for 3 eons? It surely sounds like you're saying this.

If so, then your not hearing correctly.

It's obvious Jesus was dead for three days, literally.
Scripture teaches it, and there was no reason to think otherwise according to context.

However, the only thing you have about is creation is the word day, which you said yourself has different meanings.

Imagine on day 6, God created animals, then Adam, then brought all the animals to Adam to name, then after this long process, Adam became lonely, so God put him to sleep and took part of his side and created Eve.

Now God can do anything in a day, or an instant. But man cannot.

 

[Foghorn]

Amen. Just ask any Gospel preacher if you can STILL be created Eternally in Christ. God will NOT rest (cease creating) until the "host" of Heaven is complete. Gen 2:1 AFTER Heaven is filled with it's Christian host, Jesus will return and give mankind dominion or rule over every living creature, including Angels. Gen 1:28 and 1Co 6:3

That's another subject.

Whether we are in the 6th day or 7th has nothing to do with the discussion about the age of the earth. Well, it does actually but it can also be a rabbit trail.

 

[Aman777]

That's another subject.

Whether we are in the 6th day or 7th has nothing to do with the discussion about the age of the earth. Well, it does actually but it can also be a rabbit trail.

What it is, is what is actually written in Genesis.

 

[Foghorn]

The early Christians...Barnabus in this example understood the days to be 24 hour long period of times. Keep in mind this text is extra biblical and not to be taken as inspired...but it does show their belief in a literal six day creation. If the days were "eons" then what Barnabus wrote wouldn't work.


15:2 And in another place he saith, If my sons shall

keep my sabbath, then will I place my mercy upon them.

15:3 He speaketh, too, of the sabbath in the

beginning of the creation: And God made in six days

the works of his hands, and finished them on the

seventh day, and rested in it and sanctified it.

15:4 Consider, my children, what signify the words,

He finished them in six days. They mean this: that in

six thousand years the Lord will make an end of all

things, for a day is with him as a thousand years. And

he himself beareth witness unto me, saying: Behold

this day a day shall be as a thousand years.

Therefore, my children, in six days, that is in six

thousand years, shall all things be brought to an end.

15:5 And the words, He rested on the seventh day,

signify this: After that his Son hath come, and hath

caused to cease the time of the wicked one, and hath

judged the ungodly, and changed the sun and the moon

and the stars, then shall he rest well on the seventh

day.

The early Christians...Barnabus in this example understood the days to be 24 hour long period of times. Keep in mind this text is extra biblical and not to be taken as inspired...but it does show their belief in a literal six day creation. If the days were "eons" then what Barnabus wrote wouldn't work.


15:2 And in another place he saith, If my sons shall

keep my sabbath, then will I place my mercy upon them.

15:3 He speaketh, too, of the sabbath in the

beginning of the creation: And God made in six days

the works of his hands, and finished them on the

seventh day, and rested in it and sanctified it.

15:4 Consider, my children, what signify the words,

He finished them in six days. They mean this: that in

six thousand years the Lord will make an end of all

things, for a day is with him as a thousand years. And

he himself beareth witness unto me, saying: Behold

this day a day shall be as a thousand years.

Therefore, my children, in six days, that is in six

thousand years, shall all things be brought to an end.

15:5 And the words, He rested on the seventh day,

signify this: After that his Son hath come, and hath

caused to cease the time of the wicked one, and hath

judged the ungodly, and changed the sun and the moon

and the stars, then shall he rest well on the seventh

day.

Foghorn, you do realize if God used long time periods to create....including evolution to create man rather then what Genesis informs us....T.U.L.I.P. fails.

Foghorn, you do realize if God used long time periods to create....including evolution to create man rather then what Genesis informs us....T.U.L.I.P. fails.

 

[Foghorn]

Foghorn, you do realize if God used long time periods to create....including evolution to create man rather then what Genesis informs us....T.U.L.I.P. fails.

No, but I sure am interested in how you come to that conclusion. Care to explain?