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[MoonLancer]

simply calling all the changes a "state" does not get around the problem of all fields of science verifying each other. that's simply a semantic solution.

 

[dad]

oh? and how did it change? do you have any evidence for this, or did you simply claim this when you realized your interpretation of the bible was wrong?

Yes. The evidence is bible and history of the real ancient times. Long lifespans, and spiritual beings in our realm, for example. I don't believe my basic idea of the bible has changed, I still believe in creation 6000 + years ago.

All that happened with me, is that I was backed against a wall by evidence in many fields of science, and had to find what was wrong with the picture. Nothing short of a different state universe can explain it. And science has used only this state, and laws, and light, and etc to draw an imaginary line to our past. It does so, by their own admission, by using the present as the key to the past!!!

 

[dad]

simply calling all the changes a "state" does not get around the problem of all fields of science verifying each other. that's simply a semantic solution.

False, and this shows a basic flawed comprehension of what we are talkinng about. The changes are not changes in the universe we know. We are the change. It was one big change.

 

[MoonLancer]

False, and this shows a basic flawed comprehension of what we are talkinng about. The changes are not changes in the universe we know. We are the change. It was one big change.

Its not a flaw in comprehension. Its a flaw in presentation.

 

[MoonLancer]

All that happened with me, is that I was backed against a wall by evidence in many fields of science, and had to find what was wrong with the picture.

its as i said.

 

[Split Rock]

All that happened with me, is that I was backed against a wall by evidence in many fields of science, and had to find what was wrong with the picture. Nothing short of a different state universe can explain it.

How about, The Bible is wrong about some things?

 

[Hespera]

How about, The Bible is wrong about some things?

Is that the same as saying that the bible is not precisely correct about all things? Some things that are precise are not accurate?

The old Pi=3.0 deal can be figured a lot of ways but none of them end up with the measurements being accurate. I would be fascinated to see someone do accurate measurements with cubits.

So if the Bible is not precise, and is not accurate in all things... what is it?

 

[Freodin]

Is that the same as saying that the bible is not precisely correct about all things? Some things that are precise are not accurate?

The old Pi=3.0 deal can be figured a lot of ways but none of them end up with the measurements being accurate. I would be fascinated to see someone do accurate measurements with cubits.

So if the Bible is not precise, and is not accurate in all things... what is it?

I you go according to the dadological version, the measurments given of that vessel are correct and precise. If they don´t compute accoring to modern mathematics, it is math that is to blame. The "molten sea" existed in a different state, where Pi is 3. Modern math cannot make statements about different state numbers. It is only "so called math", a fairy tale and yadda yadda.

At least, so the little blue pixie on my shoulder told me.

 

[Hespera]

I you go according to the dadological version, the measurments given of that vessel are correct and precise. If they don´t compute accoring to modern mathematics, it is math that is to blame. The "molten sea" existed in a different state, where Pi is 3. Modern math cannot make statements about different state numbers. It is only "so called math", a fairy tale and yadda yadda.

At least, so the little blue pixie on my shoulder told me.

I did my best to immunize myself to dadology so i didnt KNOW....
But now it all makes sense.

 

[LittleNipper]

"wouldn't the bible, and it's dates be silly" yup!

I think you may have a glimmer of understanding of the position you are in with your bible and your fables and your weird dates.

The way you reveal it is your constant accusing of others of doing what you do, calling science a "fable".... all your adjectives are talking from somewhere inside where you know you are talking about yourself. its kinda funny really. I love this line "And people without religious bias for what they claim are facts or science!" You must have been looking in the mirror when you wrote that!


At the U here, we get people who do things like posting a challenge for some 'professor of evolution" to come out and publicly debate them. Then they declare victory when they are ignored.

I wonder if you can guess why it is that no professor cares to debate them. What is your theory? When you figure it out, it will be the same as why nobody cares to debate a chihuahua.

The Bible for all its detractors is still a very old and historical document that contains very many points of proven validity. This is a far cry from someone who concocts a story with modern observations/opinions as their guide...

 

[Jester4kicks]

The Bible for all its detractors is still a very old and historical document that contains very many points of proven validity. This is a far cry from someone who concocts a story with modern observations/opinions as their guide...

Which "points" would those be?

 

[Hespera]

The Bible for all its detractors is still a very old and historical document that contains very many points of proven validity. This is a far cry from someone who concocts a story with modern observations/opinions as their guide...

Sure, depending on what you mean. The bible has some good advice and wisdom. Some valid history, some very questionable things.

A concocted story of course, is a concocted story no matter when it was made up. I wouldnt much want to think of my self as a "detractor" regards the bible, but when someone insists that every word in it is exactly literally true, that will often enough get a reaction from me.

I cant much imagine there is anyone who concocts a story with modern observations and then uses it as their guide. Is there?

 

[Nathan Poe]

The Bible for all its detractors is still a very old and historical document that contains very many points of proven validity. This is a far cry from someone who concocts a story with modern observations/opinions as their guide...

Here are several points of proven validity:

• There is a state in the US known as Kansas
• This state is prone to tornadoes
• A Tornado of F5 strength can easily rip a house from its foundations and send it flying
• At some point in the history of Kansas, a young girl named "Dorothy Gale" lived there.
• It is entirely feasable that Miss Dorothy Gale's home was uprooted by a category F5 tornado and carried "Somewhere over the rainbow."

Therefore, The Wizard of Oz for all its detractors is still a very old and historical document that contains very many points of proven validity. This is a far cry from someone who concocts a story with ancient observations/opinions as their guide

 

[AV1611VET]

Here are several points of proven validity:

• There is a state in the US known as Kansas
• This state is prone to tornadoes
• A Tornado of F5 strength can easily rip a house from its foundations and send it flying
• At some point in the history of Kansas, a young girl named "Dorothy Gale" lived there.
• It is entirely feasable that Miss Dorothy Gale's home was uprooted by a category F5 tornado and carried "Somewhere over the rainbow."

Therefore, The Wizard of Oz for all its detractors is still a very old and historical document that contains very many points of proven validity. This is a far cry from someone who concocts a story with ancient observations/opinions as their guide

Don't worry --- we'll never mistake the Bible for The Wonderful Wizard of Oz.

The Wonderful Wizard of Oz is copyrighted.

 

[Hespera]

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[MoonLancer]

The Bible for all its detractors is still a very old and historical document that contains very many points of proven validity. This is a far cry from someone who concocts a story with modern observations/opinions as their guide...

if its good enough for forensic science...

the bible is just as historical as Gilgamesh, or Beowulf

 

[Toclafane]

Don't worry --- we'll never mistake the Bible for The Wonderful Wizard of Oz.

The Wonderful Wizard of Oz is copyrighted.

So is the Bible in the United Kingdom where the rights to the Authorized Version are held by the British Crown under perpetual Crown copyright.

 

[AV1611VET]

So is the Bible in the United Kingdom where the rights to the Authorized Version are held by the British Crown under perpetual Crown copyright.

The Ones I have aren't.

Are you talking about the AV1611 - First Edition?

I use the Fifth Edition.

 

[MoonLancer]

Don't worry --- we'll never mistake the Bible for The Wonderful Wizard of Oz.

The Wonderful Wizard of Oz is copyrighted.

actually its not. It ended in 1956. The church held a copyright on the bible until protestants came about. That's a very very long time.

The Wizard of Oz Books - Collectible, Rare, First editions

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

actually its not. It ended in 1956. The church held a copyright on the bible until protestants came about. That's a very very long time.

The Wizard of Oz Books - Collectible, Rare, First editions

Whaaa...? You mean AVs' wrong again?