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God also told us we are Abraham's seed if we belong to Christ...HEIRS according to the promise! So now what?

Paul tells us the true Jew is one inwardly!!! Did you miss that?

Paul said they are NOT all Israel that are descended from Israel BUT THE CHILDREN OF PROMISE ARE REGARDED AS DESCENDANTS!!!

...now you figure that out.

Oh my Lord in Heaven with the Jews business.. Give it up... We are talking about the 144,000 and the multitude, two DIFFERENT groups of people..

Are you calling John a liar?
 
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John then tells of a mulitude that CANNOT be numbered.

Cannot be numbered doesnt add up to 144,000...


How hard is this to understand.. Then you want to add to the prophecy to make it work to your standards..

Just why... why...

WOW! this is TRUTH - VERY PLAIN truth. !44,000 IS A NUMBER!

LAMAD
 
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Simple bro.. catch up..

How can you possible refute revelation, you can keep dodging the question, but you honestly cant deny what John sees and hears, and that there is a clear separation betwixt the two..



Read:

He heard the number of those sealed on earth.
Rev 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

John then says..


He saw the multitude in heaven.
Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

How can you possibly disregard fact?

Dear CP, this is really ridiculous for you to accuse me and speak as you do. I am trying to focus on the topic at hand because this thread is all over the place. Then when you need any defense, you reach into your bag of tricks and pull out: "why do you keep dodging the question?"

I have explained it precisely and very accurately, and in plain english. I asked you to read it again because you are not seeing what I said, and it's obvious when you reply to something of another nature. It's rather simple, really, you say tomatoe and I say tomato? I've heard enough, Lol Thanks :)
 
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God also told us we are Abraham's seed if we belong to Christ...HEIRS according to the promise! So now what?

Paul tells us the true Jew is one inwardly!!! Did you miss that?

Paul said they are NOT all Israel that are descended from Israel BUT THE CHILDREN OF PROMISE ARE REGARDED AS DESCENDANTS!!!

...now you figure that out.

UNBELIEVABLE! You are MIXING Orange with bananas. YOU CANNOT MIX THE CHURCH with the OLD COVENANT!

Here, let me help:

Dan 9
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city,

UPON WHOM? This is specifically for the JEW and HEBREW. It has NOTHING to do with the church of Jesus Christ. That is one reason why the rapture takes the church OUT before the 70th week begins. It is for a DIFFERENT RACE of people. The church is made up of BORN AGAIN people, and NEW race. Once we are gone, the time goes right back to the OLD covenant to finish up the FINAL WEEK of seven years.

What you wrote is TRUTH for the church, NOT FOR people still dead in their sins! When John writes of the 144,000 he is speaking of PHYSICAL birth, born of a Jewish or Hebrew mother. They are NATURAL men, not born again.

Your theory is simply WRONG.

LAMAD
 
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Yea, right...
Don't you love your neighbor as Jesus instructed? Why do you spread false prophecies about the Jews suffering again in the future, when it was done in AD70?

What is Christian like love when you misunderstand prophecies at another groups expense?

I dont debate prophecy with women. Sorry..

Im sure you are a nice person..
 
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Yea, right...
Don't you love your neighbor as Jesus instructed? Why do you spread false prophecies about the Jews suffering again in the future, when it was done in AD70?

What is Christian like love when you misunderstand prophecies at another groups expense?

So you are one more that will be LEFT BEHIND when Jesus comes PRETRIB for His bride. Well, it is YOUR CHOICE. But you could do Luke 21:36 and PRAY you be found worthy to escape what is coming, for it is MOST CERTAINLY in your future, not in your past.

LAMAD
 
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Oh my Lord in Heaven with the Jews business.. Give it up... We are talking about the 144,000 and the multitude, two DIFFERENT groups of people..

Are you calling John a liar?
What I do, is accept what the scripture says, that Gentiles are fellow citizens with Jews..that we are ONE built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets with Jesus as the cornerstone.

I accept that Peter says we (Christians) are a CHOSEN RACE, A ROYAL PRIESTHOOD, A HOLY NATION! Now...unless I'm mistaken that's what Israel was in the OT...but Peter says that is the CHURCH!!!

I don't know what you do...but I accept that! Are you calling Paul and Peter liars?

You can't get away from it...but neither can you accept it...so you remain unable to see what John means.
 
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Dear CP, this is really ridiculous for you to accuse me and speak as you do. I am trying to focus on the topic at hand because this thread is all over the place. Then when you need any defense, you reach into your bag of tricks and pull out: "why do you keep dodging the question?"

I have explained it precisely and very accurately, and in plain english. I asked you to read it again because you are not seeing what I said, and it's obvious when you reply to something of another nature. It's rather simple, really, you say tomatoe and I say tomato? I've heard enough, Lol Thanks :)

What??

2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.


Get with the program.. You are taking away from the prophecy..

Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
 
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UNBELIEVABLE! You are MIXING Orange with bananas. YOU CANNOT MIX THE CHURCH with the OLD COVENANT!

Here, let me help:

Dan 9
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city,

UPON WHOM? This is specifically for the JEW and HEBREW. It has NOTHING to do with the church of Jesus Christ. That is one reason why the rapture takes the church OUT before the 70th week begins. It is for a DIFFERENT RACE of people. The church is made up of BORN AGAIN people, and NEW race. Once we are gone, the time goes right back to the OLD covenant to finish up the FINAL WEEK of seven years.

What you wrote is TRUTH for the church, NOT FOR people still dead in their sins! When John writes of the 144,000 he is speaking of PHYSICAL birth, born of a Jewish or Hebrew mother. They are NATURAL men, not born again.

Your theory is simply WRONG.

LAMAD
I don't mix the church with the Old Covenant...YOU DO! Unless you missed the boat the New Covenant is in effect,,,the Old Covenant died with Christ.

So it is those who are "given the right to become sons of God" that are descendants.

When you get the OT out of your system...you *might* see that.
 
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It IS obvious, but some preconceived glasses are VERY THICK, like old coke bottles. :thumbsup:

LAMAD

Its got to be worse than that..
Preconceived notions are the least of these peoples problems..

Augmenting the prophecy in Revelation is a huge no no...
 
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I don't mix the church with the Old Covenant...YOU DO! Unless you missed the boat the New Covenant is in effect,,,the Old Covenant died with Christ.

So it is those who are "given the right to become sons of God" that are descendants.

When you get the OT out of your system...you *might* see that.

I truly feel sorry for what is coming on your house.. You speak blasphemy in droves.

This site is not for Christians.. clearly..
 
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When you get the OT out of your system...you *might* see that.

Yes, bury the prophecy of the Old Testament in one fell swoop too.. Clever..

You cant be a brother in Christ. Your fruit is making me sick.

Im going to pray for you.. You need help at this point, and only God can give you what you need..

Bet on it old man..
 
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