3rd Temple coming soon..

[SG9]

For the love of God, not you too..

Im not saying they go together, they are separate events, one directly precedes the other..

I just literally argued the same point you made to Ebedmelech...


Starting to feel like im in the twilight zone..

Dear CP, wake up! you're having a nightmare, it's okay! This is exactly the point of awakening from the illusion, my friend, and this is what we are here for, to awaken you from that dream in the Twilight Zone. Review what Albert Einstein said: "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." The strong delusion and the deceptions, and the creations of the beast in Revelation 13:4 have created this illusion that I described as an "electronic menagerie" of our end time tech-age of digital minds that have been programmed to sleep for a period of time, like suspended animation and the mind thinks it's reality. Wake up from this illusion in the TZ, it's time! Thanks

 

[xXChristPeripheralXx]

Dear CP, wake up! you're having a nightmare, it's okay! This is exactly the point of awakening from the illusion, my friend, and this is what we are here for, to awaken you from that dream in the Twilight Zone. Review what Albert Einstein said: "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." The strong delusion and the deceptions, and the creations of the beast in Revelation 13:4 have created this illusion that I described as an "electronic menagerie" of our end time tech-age of digital minds that have been programmed to sleep for a period of time, like suspended animation and the mind thinks it's reality. Wake up from this illusion in the TZ, it's time! Thanks

When you acknowledge that the 144,000, and the multitude are clearly different, then I will accept what you are saying.

There is only one understanding, one is right, one is wrong.

You are the one pulling from your bag of tricks, running around the NT to back your story..

I need two verses, two very cleancut, easy to read and very comprehensible verses..

You cant even answer yes or no, why?

For the love of God I dont know...


If Id known you were another preterist, I sincerely would have ignored you.

 

[SG9]

When you acknowledge that the 144,000, and the multitude are clearly different, then I will accept what you are saying. Really?

There is only one understanding, one is right, one is wrong.

You are the one pulling from your bag of tricks, running around the NT to back your story..

I need two verses, two very cleancut, easy to read and very comprehensible verses..

You cant even answer yes or no, why?

For the love of God I dont know...


If Id known you were another preterist, I sincerely would have ignored you.

This isn't working either, my friend, try another trick? I have stated that these two groups are different, read my posts for the fourth time, as I've asked, err, three times, was it? Well, either way, you have me confused with somebody else, you have too many spoons in the kettle and they have all fell inside. I have said that the two groups are different, it is EBMlech (spelling) who said that they are the same, I even remember reading that much so, with this in the clear now, I'll ignore the rest of your post. Thanks

 

[xXChristPeripheralXx]

This isn't working either, my friend, try another trick? I have stated that these two groups are different, read my posts for the fourth time, as I've asked, err, three times, was it? Well, either way, you have me confused with somebody else, you have too many spoons in the kettle and they have all fell inside. I have said that the two groups are different, it is EBMlech (spelling) who said that they are the same, I even remember reading that much so, with this in the clear now, I'll ignore the rest of your post. Thanks

Then I apologize.

I love the spoons in the kettle bit.. You older guys have the most amazing metaphors.. so true..

 

[SG9]

Then I apologize.

I love the spoons in the kettle bit.. You older guys have the most amazing metaphors.. so true..

Older guys? Well, the "1" doesn't show in my age, there's only space for two digits to fit in the profile image. I'm actually 143 years old and have come through a portal in time, and this is because our Father is drawing the two time-plains closer together, and there's now enough power stored up in the earth's core to make a leap across on an arc of God's Spirit and take form in a wineskin of flesh so that I might be here with you, this very place that I will build up in three days and the places that I have prepared for you will be your reward.

People will awaken to something of this sort as I have described, after awakening from the twilight zone. I just love this imagination, Lol I just wanted to cheer things up a bit, my friend. God bless you!

 

[xXChristPeripheralXx]

Older guys? Well, the "1" doesn't show in my age, there's only space for two digits to fit in the profile image. I'm actually 143 years old and have come through a portal in time, and this is because our Father is drawing the two time-plains closer together, and there's now enough power stored up in the earth's core to make a leap across on an arc of God's Spirit and take form in a wineskin of flesh so that I might be here with you, this very place that I will build up in three days and the places that I have prepared for you will be your reward.

People will awaken to something of this sort as I have described, after awakening from the twilight zone. I just love this imagination, Lol I just wanted to cheer things up a bit, my friend. God bless you!

Ok, well you are old enough to be my older brother, so you arent "that" old..

 

[ebedmelech]

I truly feel sorry for what is coming on your house.. You speak blasphemy in droves.

This site is not for Christians.. clearly..

The only thing coming on my house it that which God wills for me. My foundation is the Lord Jesus Christ.

That you come out of your flesh at me because I disagree with your eschatology, is an issue for you...not me.

Everything I said is in scripture and defensible...I will stand on it.

Not only that...now you want to say who is a Christian???

Be full of yourself and carry on. As I have just finished 2 Timothy, I say with Paul in 2 Tim 2:11-13:
11 It is a trustworthy statement: For if we died with Him, we will also live with Him;
12 If we endure, we will also reign with Him; If we deny Him, He also will deny us;
13 If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself.

It's only when people want to make a show in the flesh. that they begin to try and make salvation go beyond that which Jesus says it is...

 

[SG9]

Ok, well you are old enough to be my older brother, so you arent "that" old..

Dear CP, well, you are my brethren, and we ought to get acquainted as brethren, right? You have spoken about speaking from the heart and one who does may see from the outside, in. One gift may require other skills and talents from God that are learned by experiences, and not by age or time. Time is man's idea that limits his ability to think for himself, and this has hindered mankind over the ages causing a ever increasing depraving of minds. The abomination that causes desolation's has caused these desolation's which then caused the stones in God's hand's to heat up and become HOT ROCKS, so to speak, and then God casts them down to earth.

God handed us over to our desires, which turned us free to do as we will for ourselves. God thought to Himself: "I'll turn them loose, and if they truly love me they will return."

You have been working on solving prophecy debates with figures and some sort of calculus that you have demonstrated, and with your preconceived algorithm to propel it. It takes more than knowledge of the facts as Albert Einstein has noted, and Albert attributed the spiritual geometry of interpreting matter and creation, and especially the human conscience. Albert could not see the flip side of the coin because his eye was full of one side, and this caused a "heaviness" in his yoke that distorted his thinking and reasoning of any conscience balance.

There are much greater meanings that are hidden in metaphors and parables, and they can cause a sparkle in thought to shine like the Son, and then a door opens that has not before been seen by "two eyes".

Rhe 144k will learn a new song, and it's not a hymn or instrumental song but rather a language of spiritual intercommunication that spans the realms of both natural and supernatural. This is the mind of Christ that we are promised. It sees in all directions, and has been counterfeited and made to appear evil because it has become the eye of a serpent, and not God himself.

The holy attributes of God and all that He has ever done has been tainted, and it can be imagined as graffiti artists defacing a perfectly clear "Wall".

In my words I speak to the spirit if it may hear with it's ear but being that this is electronic communication you cannot have the pnuema of any voice impact your ears, but only your eyes. This limits the senses like closing the mouth of a cat when it sniffs the "air".

There are hidden stories hidden within the words, and one sentence may break-out to become seven-fold in Spirit, and in Truth, and it's Word, and Holy Spirit, and it too, is limited by an absence of certain senses in the communication.

In the first line of my post are a number of words that One eye can see where as two eyes sees only what it sees. This may be a trait of spiritual communication that is not understood by the uninformed. The info must be presented like a gift before it may be accepted, and it must have substance to be matter as giving somebody a check for cash, and the money better be there when it's cashed or else it bounces, and comes back "void". God has a sure way of banking on eternity and in Spirit, and it's another form of communication.

You might see other things that offer more detail to other scripture, although the story appears as science fiction as it is written to be science fiction to the reader. I might talk to a friend who knows the same thought and read the hidden things while making the written texts the basis and framework and context. It only requires one word to direct a thought, and two to steer it.

I will not go into detail about the hidden details because it is then only my opinion. The talents of learning must also come by experience and knowledge and by works in the right faith. Our faith will die without the right works, not just merely, "works".

If you learn something in a circle, and it is something that others cannot understand then you are mocked and what they can't see then becomes evil to them but it doesn't make the Holy things actually profane but they are seen in reverse by a depraved mind that cries out for fear of the darkness.

The story that I told about me is nonsense, surely I'm joking and meant it to be. I'm demonstrating the manner in which the language may be used. Jesus spoke in this manner and made it available. Now, when it appears to others, it will not make sense, neither. So in this same manner, many deceptions might lie within the wrong interpreting method if not that of the master.

I thought to share some thoughts with you. Expect the spiritual things to appear as garble but rightly divide them with some form of "steering" your way down or up river. God could not write all that He wanted to write because written words in text are hindering the things that are not seen.

Once we learn and our minds are open, we then will not need written words that hinder the things that God had to say then and now, but now, we can learn how to hear those Words that we could not hear then. He couldn't say them then because we couldn't all hear until He returns. When He is come and ascends upon the believer in Spirit as the Holy Ghost that comes by hearing with an ear, the door to heaven is opened and there are countless doors to explore. It's rather a maze and might even be destructive to the darkened mind as the Light will blind the eye permanently as with a hot iron.

Don't confuse the lights but we shall all walk towards the Light, and become Glorified. I have things to do now, Ttyl Thanks

 

[iamlamad]

I don't mix the church with the Old Covenant...YOU DO! Unless you missed the boat the New Covenant is in effect,,,the Old Covenant died with Christ.

So it is those who are "given the right to become sons of God" that are descendants.

When you get the OT out of your system...you *might* see that.

When Jesus spoke of the "abomination of desolation," He put it in the FUTURE. It did NOT happen in 70 AD. For an example of what WILL happen when the 70th week does get here, we need only read what Antiochus Epiphanes did. Have you read about it? He slaughtered a PIG on the altar, and then erected an image of ZEUS in the Holy Place. So he placed a FALSE GOD in the Holy of Holies.

Did you not understand Paul? He tells us that the man of sin will enter the holy of holies and declare that HE IS GOD. So again a FALSE GOD in the Holy place in the temple. Next, he will make an IMAGE - probably of himself - and set it up in the holy place of the temple, and force all to worship the image. Any who refuses will be put to death. ALL THIS is the abomination Jesus spoke of.

ALL this will happen, NOT in the church age, for that will end soon at the pretrib rapture of the church. The Holy Spirit will leave with the Bride, so things will be just as they were before the day of Pentecost. In case you forgot, that was OLD COVENANT. Once again I remind you to READ:

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city,

What do you see in this sentence that tells you ANYTHING about the church of Jesus Christ? These 70 weeks, of which ONE WEEK remains, is for ISRAEL, not the church. Again I remind you, the church of Jesus Christ is a DIFFERENT RACE of people that never existed before Jesus rose from the dead. The law was for DEAD people....dead in trespasses and sins. The 70th week will be the same. The BODY OF CHRIST, however, are a new race of people, with GOD dwelling inside, and a NEW SPIRIT inside. The LAW was not written for us, but for DEAD MEN walking - dead in sins. Did you not read that "if one died for all, then were all dead?" The world is FULL of dead people walking. But the body of Christ is a different race, ALIVE unto God.

The body of Christ has NO APPOINTMENT with any part of the 70th week. However, if you wish to set your OWN appointment, I believe God will honor that, and you will be left behind. It will be your own doing.

As for the "old covenant" dead, did you never read?

Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

It is not gone yet, for there remains 7 years. However, it will be different, for Jesus already PAID for their sins. They just don't believe it yet. In spite of all your futile arguments, the final 70th week is still in our future. Once you have been LEFT BEHIND, you will begin to understand how far off from truth you have been. But then it will be TOO LATE. You will be STUNG by those flying beasties that sting like scorpions, and probably bitten too, for they have teeth like lion's teeth. You will for SURE remember these posts, and how many of us tried to tell you what was coming, and you will beat your head against a wall....wishing you had listened.

LAMAD

 

[Jipsah]

The preterist posts in a futurist thread is because preterists like to have someone to talk to, other than themselves, about their favorite topic -preterism.

And possibly to lend a note of reality to the thing.

Back in 1923, Arthur Pink wrote in his work "The Antichrist" that there would have to be a rebuilt temple.

And it was baloney then, as well.

 

[southcountry]

I am following most of your work well but may I ask which heaven is this referring to? There are three heavens defined in the Bible that I see as a possible choice, is this one of them, and which one? Thanks

I am seeing it as travelling through the heavens of space.

This would answer two of my questions.

How did man get here after being booted out of Eden, and if by some chance our bodies sprang from a mud hole, how did his spirit get here?

Somehow man had to be delivered to this earth. God cant fit here, or else the elements would have melted. So how did we get to this little marble hiding in the cosmos? It could have just as easily been some other habitable planet.
Battlestar Galactica?

 

[ebedmelech]

When Jesus spoke of the "abomination of desolation," He put it in the FUTURE. It did NOT happen in 70 AD. For an example of what WILL happen when the 70th week does get here, we need only read what Antiochus Epiphanes did. Have you read about it? He slaughtered a PIG on the altar, and then erected an image of ZEUS in the Holy Place. So he placed a FALSE GOD in the Holy of Holies.

Did you not understand Paul? He tells us that the man of sin will enter the holy of holies and declare that HE IS GOD. So again a FALSE GOD in the Holy place in the temple. Next, he will make an IMAGE - probably of himself - and set it up in the holy place of the temple, and force all to worship the image. Any who refuses will be put to death. ALL THIS is the abomination Jesus spoke of.

ALL this will happen, NOT in the church age, for that will end soon at the pretrib rapture of the church. The Holy Spirit will leave with the Bride, so things will be just as they were before the day of Pentecost. In case you forgot, that was OLD COVENANT. Once again I remind you to READ:

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city,

What do you see in this sentence that tells you ANYTHING about the church of Jesus Christ? These 70 weeks, of which ONE WEEK remains, is for ISRAEL, not the church. Again I remind you, the church of Jesus Christ is a DIFFERENT RACE of people that never existed before Jesus rose from the dead. The law was for DEAD people....dead in trespasses and sins. The 70th week will be the same. The BODY OF CHRIST, however, are a new race of people, with GOD dwelling inside, and a NEW SPIRIT inside. The LAW was not written for us, but for DEAD MEN walking - dead in sins. Did you not read that "if one died for all, then were all dead?" The world is FULL of dead people walking. But the body of Christ is a different race, ALIVE unto God.

The body of Christ has NO APPOINTMENT with any part of the 70th week. However, if you wish to set your OWN appointment, I believe God will honor that, and you will be left behind. It will be your own doing.

As for the "old covenant" dead, did you never read?

Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

It is not gone yet, for there remains 7 years. However, it will be different, for Jesus already PAID for their sins. They just don't believe it yet. In spite of all your futile arguments, the final 70th week is still in our future. Once you have been LEFT BEHIND, you will begin to understand how far off from truth you have been. But then it will be TOO LATE. You will be STUNG by those flying beasties that sting like scorpions, and probably bitten too, for they have teeth like lion's teeth. You will for SURE remember these posts, and how many of us tried to tell you what was coming, and you will beat your head against a wall....wishing you had listened.

LAMAD

Jesus spoke of a future abomination because it was future to the disciples not us.

When it comes to Paul...the temple is always the church in his writings so the man of sin isn't about Herod's temple.

If you don't understand the Old Covenant is dead...that's another reson you have the view you do.

I'm not at all worried about being left behind...that's for you and Tim LaHaye.

I await Jesus return.

 

[SG9]

I am seeing it as travelling through the heavens of space.

This would answer two of my questions.

How did man get here after being booted out of Eden, and if by some chance our bodies sprang from a mud hole, how did his spirit get here?

Somehow man had to be delivered to this earth. God cant fit here, or else the elements would have melted. So how did we get to this little marble hiding in the cosmos? It could have just as easily been some other habitable planet.
Battlestar Galactica?

Very intriguing thought
Using this thought as our direction then, let's give it another thought to steer it through another scene as you have described. This will also describe the mental and spiritual repercussions of the conversations that transpired in the garden of Eden. Even any argument in being, will create an antichrist spirit, such as when a child back-talks their father's command/words.

It requires only one word to direct a thought, and it requires two words to steer or "stir" (stir the pot) the direct ion of thought. This is where another form of witness may throw our thought off balance, and only to result in "heaviness". The weight is created by a stirring of the mind and by thought, and when our thoughts are stirred they move about in opposing motions, such as in forward and backward, reverses, flips, and this is the affection that our soul feels, and becomes the driving force that controls our flesh and behavior.

Being that you are here in this thought, let's expand on it: in this case of your thoughts, it's important to see how the paralleling system works, and there's a parallel also in both senses of the celestial's and terrestrial's in this picture that you describe.

The motive behind this is for Satan to escape the blame and guilt by causing man to violate by the works that man does. It's starts with one word as simple as "Yea", just to direct Eve's thought, and then it took "two" words to steer the thought. The words came from either side in the conversation, one was the serpent's and the other was Eve, and so if Eve had remained silent (hush, the beast is nearby so keep quiet so that he doesn't hear us) but Eve replied to the slithering voice and she hearkened unto it's voice instead of allowing the man Adam to hearken unto the voice of God. Eve seduced Adam, no doubt and they both were torn apart like the ripping of the Curtain in that Most Holy Place, the First "Eden", as the name implies.

One is naturally and geographically identified, as when God named the stars and hung them all, etc. Then we go back to the beginning of the Creation in Genesis, 1st chapter and read of the first part of the Seed, and this is first the "Image" of God, and then the "Likeness" came after, and in Glorified Flesh as the first born Son, but He was born twice, first Spirit then flesh. Where there might be two deaths there might be two births? It's saying, yes.

Now, all that was Created was arranged and ordered and created and made and all based on the same Laws, the same plans, and by the same God, and His "Mind". Being that God cannot be here in a separate and physical being other than Himself, He must remain a Virgin, and without "Change" in any part of Him but He can do these Wonders in us and all that He has made.

He is the Potter and all of Creation is?

To be here, God manifested Himself in flesh but had to become sin like us in order to come to hell, and this is the illusion that the world has fallen into by thinking that we are not dead and in hell. Satan has caused us to create our own heaven and away from god by using the same portals and phenomenon's to hijack and reanimate the world by substituting God's Spirit in man with an artificial one that he causes man to create by himself, and Satan gives the beast-man the authority by means that I have described, and he then gives the beast-man (us humans) the power source to bring it all to life in an illusion as I have described in my thread.

Once we can understand the phenomenon we will also then realize that God had to come as man to save man from the Abyss. God is wanting us to live abundantly before we go to heaven, and we cannot do this without Him here in some manner and matter, and the only way that our natural minds may see Him at His appearing He then, must be in an apparition that the wicked eye may see just as we man saw God in Christ.

No man has seen God without a veiled imaged, which then is flawed and as sin. I'll rest this here even though there are many scriptures that fine tune our vision when looking at this picture.

Battlestar Galactica is a fantasy, of course but it appears that there are interesting parallel's between truth and lies in the theme but as science fiction tries to be God we will find many parallel's to the truth, and they sometimes and all do offer clues to the present day at hand.

The Battlestar G stories actually surround and interweave through 4 dimensional realms and all are parallel by crossing, and flipping in reality. It's rather a series of stories that use quantum physics as it's mechanism, I think?

Dat's all folks, Thanks

PS, God-YHWH Spoke in Spirit and Commanded an Order with Authority and Power and Faith, and Identity and it was Done. If we had the faith of even the smallest seed, we might move mountains, and how much more might God do?

 

[iamlamad]

Jesus spoke of a future abomination because it was future to the disciples not us.

When it comes to Paul...the temple is always the church in his writings so the man of sin isn't about Herod's temple.

If you don't understand the Old Covenant is dead...that's another reson you have the view you do.

I'm not at all worried about being left behind...that's for you and Tim LaHaye.

I await Jesus return.

You can certainly keep your head buried in the sand, but one day soon Jesus will come FOR His church, and you will be left behind, mind or not. However, very soon after you WILL mind, because evil is coming the likes of which we have not seen in the USA. First you will be told you MUST worship an image or die. It will be very much like the 3 Hebrew guys and the furnace. You will be told you MUST accept the MARK of the man or the image (probably the same). Without the mark, you will not be able to buy or sell. Keep in mind, when the vials hit, there will be NO FRESH WATER anywhere. So you will get VERY thirsty, not to mention hungry. Still don't mind? Well, by this time, probably not, for my guess is you will refuse the mark, refuse to worship the image and lose your head. At least, I HOPE you will refuse the mark. It may do you well to read the message of the angels in Rev. 14.

LAMAD

 

[ebedmelech]

You can certainly keep your head buried in the sand, but one day soon Jesus will come FOR His church, and you will be left behind, mind or not. However, very soon after you WILL mind, because evil is coming the likes of which we have not seen in the USA. First you will be told you MUST worship an image or die. It will be very much like the 3 Hebrew guys and the furnace. You will be told you MUST accept the MARK of the man or the image (probably the same). Without the mark, you will not be able to buy or sell. Keep in mind, when the vials hit, there will be NO FRESH WATER anywhere. So you will get VERY thirsty, not to mention hungry. Still don't mind? Well, by this time, probably not, for my guess is you will refuse the mark, refuse to worship the image and lose your head. At least, I HOPE you will refuse the mark. It may do you well to read the message of the angels in Rev. 14.

LAMAD

Here's a bit of reality for you:

What does Hebrews 9:24-26 tell us Christ did?:
24 For Christ did not enter a holy place made with hands, a mere copy of the true one, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us;
25 nor was it that He would offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the holy place year by year with blood that is not his own.
26 Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now once at the consummation of the ages He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.

When Jesus entered heaven THAT WAS THE TRUE "HOLY of HOLIES"...the Holy of holies the Israel's high priest entered was a COPY of the TRUE one. Do you get that Lamad?

The "abomination of desolation' occurred when the Gentile Roman armies entered the temple taking all of the holy articles!!! Obviously what's not entering your mind is that ONLY LEVITES were allowed to enter the temple and ONLY the HIGH PRIEST could enter the Holy of Holies. Think about that. Once again failure to correlate the scriptures!

There is NOTHING of the Old Covenant Christ left undone! When he said IT IS FINISHED,,,guess what??? IT WAS FINISHED...NO MORE OLD COVENANT!!!

Jesus said "this cup is the New Covenant in my blood" because He fulfilled the Old Covenant.

God help you to see that!!!

 

[SG9]

Dear LAMAD, you write about some subjects that I'm agreeing with; your principals and heart of it seem right, albeit I see another object in this picture of the mark, and the beast, etc., I offer another object for comparison.

In this brief picture that you describe of the beast, and refer to Rev 13:4 as our foundation of thought, and in parallel to your's, let's place a couple of objects into the picture and see if it fits all of the attributes of the ones that appear absent:

Imagine it as an illusion; the reason why I put it in this order is because if we are in an illusion there is a way to test it, and simply by reversing current reality and see if there are any parallel's that cross-check our answers to present day objects. Comparing and testing is a process of elimination, and like using addition to check our subtraction, and so on.

IMO, I thought that if God has shifted time in a paradigm we too need to compensate. If our calculations are derived from the Bible history then, we will discover a difference of time that has not been considered. This then would say that the things that appear to be further away are actually closer than we think, like looking in those side view mirrors on your auto that reduces the size of the image, causing it to appear farther away than it is.

Shifting data in the time lines are like spanning across a radio tuner to find a broadcast signal, or like trying to line up two marks. You find many and listen for a while to see if this is it, if not then move on until you find that one that comes in loud and the sound is clear in your ears.

..you WILL mind, because evil is coming the likes of which we have not seen in the USA.

The cause is here, and the origin as well. I suggest that it's the rulers who are the beasts, who created more through politics, religion, and countless more ways. I believe that our invention of electrical technology is our works that has created an image that the dragon may travel; electricity is invisible, has power to restore live, give life and take life, and ruin lives, at least in this context of the apparitions that Satan can use to masquerade in or on. Current runs on the surface of conductors and not in, so if the current is interrupted there will be no more running back and forth or up and down in the earth or in anything made from the earth. All materials taken from earth are "Earth" in this picture.

..First you will be told you MUST worship an image or die.

If electricity is the life force of any or the image of this beast, and the beast is man, then are photographs, paintings, and all forms of reproduced images of the beast, which are us are what we worship, and even possibly pornography, and what ever is "imaginable" even in our thoughts, as it too is counted as lust and sin? Perhaps, concerns of vanity and idolatry?

It will be very much like the 3 Hebrew guys and the furnace. You will be told you MUST accept the MARK of the man or the image (probably the same).

If it is electricity and our own inventions then, it's already here and we can then know where to tune into the timeline for more clues as we listen to the signs and times. This is what the shifting will affect and sensitive to adjustment in time.

Without the mark, you will not be able to buy or sell.

Exactly, and if electricity is a universally power that the entire world is living on, it will not be possible for people to survive very long. So, if we were to deny the use of electricity and find an alternate way of life as people did before we can then escape the grasp that electricity has on us. We cannot buy or sell without it. You can't go anywhere in this world without electricity used in any purchase transaction. This mark is handed down to the hands that trade with that same currency, and the chain continues around the globe and in and through every life in one form, way or another.

Keep in mind, when the vials hit, there will be NO FRESH WATER anywhere. So you will get VERY thirsty, not to mention hungry. Still don't mind?

Water cleansing will fail when electricity does, and I believe that it's the coming of the Lord that cuts the cable from Satan's power grid and God fills our soul's with His Holy Spirit that will sustain us while all others die for lack of the artificial power. Satan and his offspring will all eventually burn up with the elements (electricity and devices) which are both natural and spiritual.

Well, by this time, probably not, for my guess is you will refuse the mark, refuse to worship the image and lose your head. At least, I HOPE you will refuse the mark. It may do you well to read the message of the angels in Rev. 14.
LAMAD

IMO, it's God who causes the interruption of human resources so that it has repercussions that will serve rewards. Woes play out in various ways and forms. His coming will execute many processes, and execution of advancing forward towards final Judgment, He draws near to us, and things also get worse on earth, and comes as a deliverance of rewards, tribulation, refinement, and resurrection. Any interruption in resources will be the works of God as He will cut Satan's support to us so that He can bring us back and out of Egypt-hell, and only the Strong survive.

 

[coraline]

Here's a bit of reality for you:

What does Hebrews 9:24-26 tell us Christ did?:
24 For Christ did not enter a holy place made with hands, a mere copy of the true one, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us;
25 nor was it that He would offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the holy place year by year with blood that is not his own.
26 Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now once at the consummation of the ages He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.

When Jesus entered heaven THAT WAS THE TRUE "HOLY of HOLIES"...the Holy of holies the Israel's high priest entered was a COPY of the TRUE one. Do you get that Lamad?

The "abomination of desolation' occurred when the Gentile Roman armies entered the temple taking all of the holy articles!!! Obviously what's not entering your mind is that ONLY LEVITES were allowed to enter the temple and ONLY the HIGH PRIEST could enter the Holy of Holies. Think about that. Once again failure to correlate the scriptures!

There is NOTHING of the Old Covenant Christ left undone! When he said IT IS FINISHED,,,guess what??? IT WAS FINISHED...NO MORE OLD COVENANT!!!

Jesus said "this cup is the New Covenant in my blood" because He fulfilled the Old Covenant.

God help you to see that!!!

Lamad doesn't want reality or Biblical proof, he wants us to listen to his false prophecies, as if it is even productive to the Christian cause. Not!

There's just too many false prophets today!

 

[SG9]

Lamad doesn't want reality or Biblical proof, he wants us to listen to his false prophecies, as if it is even productive to the Christian cause. Not!

There's just too many false prophets today!

Dear Coraline, you are a very observant person, indeed are there an influx of false prophets in the world, today. There has been mass arrivals of UFO wackoes landing on earth and inhabiting human beings. This is the reality of the world's fantasy, and they have conjured up all sorts of preachers to tickle their ears with fables such as UFO garbage.

Simply look at the time at hand and compare to creation, and we can do this whenever we need a reality-check; here's how nature works, the earth is the "field" and God planted crops of wheat and He rains "Water" down from His Throne to feed His new seeds. While God was enjoying His works and relaxing one day an enemy came in and sowed many bad seeds of corruption, and they too were fed from the "same" waters from above. They sprouted up and grew quickly as God nourished and cared well for His field of wheat that shared it with the tares. The field produced all sorts of good and bad wheat while producing a lot of poor and healthy tares, as well. They both grew together until the harvest.

The idea is, when it rains the weeds will sprout up and they usually grow fast and plentiful, and especially with lots of rainfall. So in this day of God pouring out His blessings and Latter day Rain, the tares will increase and grow up healthy, as well when they drink of the same waters.

The tares that are not drinking of the same waters or of any water will be sickly and or die, inevitably. You should by reason, expect an increase of counterfeits and diversions just to steer the elect off course. Thanks

 

[southcountry]

Very intriguing thought
Using this thought as our direction then, let's give it another thought to steer it through another scene as you have described. This will also describe the mental and spiritual repercussions of the conversations that transpired in the garden of Eden. Even any argument in being, will create an antichrist spirit, such as when a child back-talks their father's command/words.

It requires only one word to direct a thought, and it requires two words to steer or "stir" (stir the pot) the direct ion of thought. This is where another form of witness may throw our thought off balance, and only to result in "heaviness". The weight is created by a stirring of the mind and by thought, and when our thoughts are stirred they move about in opposing motions, such as in forward and backward, reverses, flips, and this is the affection that our soul feels, and becomes the driving force that controls our flesh and behavior.

Being that you are here in this thought, let's expand on it: in this case of your thoughts, it's important to see how the paralleling system works, and there's a parallel also in both senses of the celestial's and terrestrial's in this picture that you describe.

The motive behind this is for Satan to escape the blame and guilt by causing man to violate by the works that man does. It's starts with one word as simple as "Yea", just to direct Eve's thought, and then it took "two" words to steer the thought. The words came from either side in the conversation, one was the serpent's and the other was Eve, and so if Eve had remained silent (hush, the beast is nearby so keep quiet so that he doesn't hear us) but Eve replied to the slithering voice and she hearkened unto it's voice instead of allowing the man Adam to hearken unto the voice of God. Eve seduced Adam, no doubt and they both were torn apart like the ripping of the Curtain in that Most Holy Place, the First "Eden", as the name implies.

One is naturally and geographically identified, as when God named the stars and hung them all, etc. Then we go back to the beginning of the Creation in Genesis, 1st chapter and read of the first part of the Seed, and this is first the "Image" of God, and then the "Likeness" came after, and in Glorified Flesh as the first born Son, but He was born twice, first Spirit then flesh. Where there might be two deaths there might be two births? It's saying, yes.

Now, all that was Created was arranged and ordered and created and made and all based on the same Laws, the same plans, and by the same God, and His "Mind". Being that God cannot be here in a separate and physical being other than Himself, He must remain a Virgin, and without "Change" in any part of Him but He can do these Wonders in us and all that He has made.

He is the Potter and all of Creation is?

To be here, God manifested Himself in flesh but had to become sin like us in order to come to hell, and this is the illusion that the world has fallen into by thinking that we are not dead and in hell. Satan has caused us to create our own heaven and away from god by using the same portals and phenomenon's to hijack and reanimate the world by substituting God's Spirit in man with an artificial one that he causes man to create by himself, and Satan gives the beast-man the authority by means that I have described, and he then gives the beast-man (us humans) the power source to bring it all to life in an illusion as I have described in my thread.

Once we can understand the phenomenon we will also then realize that God had to come as man to save man from the Abyss. God is wanting us to live abundantly before we go to heaven, and we cannot do this without Him here in some manner and matter, and the only way that our natural minds may see Him at His appearing He then, must be in an apparition that the wicked eye may see just as we man saw God in Christ.

No man has seen God without a veiled imaged, which then is flawed and as sin. I'll rest this here even though there are many scriptures that fine tune our vision when looking at this picture.

Battlestar Galactica is a fantasy, of course but it appears that there are interesting parallel's between truth and lies in the theme but as science fiction tries to be God we will find many parallel's to the truth, and they sometimes and all do offer clues to the present day at hand.

The Battlestar G stories actually surround and interweave through 4 dimensional realms and all are parallel by crossing, and flipping in reality. It's rather a series of stories that use quantum physics as it's mechanism, I think?

Dat's all folks, Thanks

PS, God-YHWH Spoke in Spirit and Commanded an Order with Authority and Power and Faith, and Identity and it was Done. If we had the faith of even the smallest seed, we might move mountains, and how much more might God do?

Wow, pretty deep stuff, there, I dont know where to comment.

 

[southcountry]

Dear Coraline, you are a very observant person, indeed are there an influx of false prophets in the world, today. There has been mass arrivals of UFO wackoes landing on earth and inhabiting human beings. This is the reality of the world's fantasy, and they have conjured up all sorts of preachers to tickle their ears with fables such as UFO garbage.

Simply look at the time at hand and compare to creation, and we can do this whenever we need a reality-check; here's how nature works, the earth is the "field" and God planted crops of wheat and He rains "Water" down from His Throne to feed His new seeds. While God was enjoying His works and relaxing one day an enemy came in and sowed many bad seeds of corruption, and they too were fed from the "same" waters from above. They sprouted up and grew quickly as God nourished and cared well for His field of wheat that shared it with the tares. The field produced all sorts of good and bad wheat while producing a lot of poor and healthy tares, as well. They both grew together until the harvest.

The idea is, when it rains the weeds will sprout up and they usually grow fast and plentiful, and especially with lots of rainfall. So in this day of God pouring out His blessings and Latter day Rain, the tares will increase and grow up healthy, as well when they drink of the same waters.

The tares that are not drinking of the same waters or of any water will be sickly and or die, inevitably. You should by reason, expect an increase of counterfeits and diversions just to steer the elect off course. Thanks

You have to include all the stubble in the field gets burnt after the harvest.