• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
  • We hope the site problems here are now solved, however, if you still have any issues, please start a ticket in Contact Us

3rd Temple coming soon..

Status
Not open for further replies.

xXChristPeripheralXx

Well-Known Member
Nov 27, 2013
1,031
19
✟1,337.00
Faith
Protestant
Marital Status
Married
You could be right, however I don't think it will take place that quickly but I could be wrong. It does seem very strange to me also about the pope and John Kerry . Isn't it interesting that they are pushing for peace between Israel and Palestinians to be during a 9 month period? Prophecy is referred to in Matt 24( birth pains). Just a thought .

I know exactly what you mean..

Remember this verse..

Luk 8:17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.

We will know more very soon..
 
Upvote 0

yeshuasavedme

Senior Veteran
May 31, 2004
12,811
779
✟112,705.00
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
You missed a few of them and their purposes are totally, then, hidden from you.

God's created temple in the created heavens will never cease to exist, and He sits on His throne there in the Person of God the Word, the Son of Man.
That created temple in the heavens is "set in the sun" as we are informed in the Psalms, and in Isaiah, and in Enoch.

The first temple not made with hands -in ruins and vacant since the fall- was Adam.
The last and second and final temple not made with hands is "Israel, the New Man.

The tent/tabernacle in the wilderness was with hands -where the Glory dwelt between the Cherubim on the Mercy Seat of the Ark of the Covenant- and it was set at Shiloh;

The first stone temple made with hands on earth was Solomon's temple, and is called the first temple because it was permanent, not movable like the tent; and the Glory entered that temple at its dedication, and departed at the time of the Babylonian dispersion;

The second temple built by Ezra and Nehemiah and those who returned to Jerusalem never had the Glory, but it was the temple of God, and God respected it and the Israelis were to keep His Law for that, even though the Glory never returned.
That temple was defiled and the Maccabees re-dedicated it, and later, Herod, a wicked man, rebuilt it and Jesus respected that temple though the Glory never returned to dwell there. Jesus even called it "My Father's House".

That temple was destroyed in 70 AD, but til then, it was the House of God made with hands, on earth, and Paul and all the Jews who were born again in Christ kept the Law and called it the temple of God in Jerusalem.

There will be two more temples made with hands in Jerusalem. The tribulation temple will not have the Glory enter it, just like the last one and its remodel job, did not.
Then there will be the millennial temple, and it will be made with hands, and the Glory of God will dwell there, as Ezekiel wrote, for the Messiah will be the Glory of God who enters and plants the soles of His feet there.


The LORD Jesus Christ is that last/second temple not made with hands, and every adopted in His living Spirit son is a living stone in that temple, but there is yet a third temple made with hands coming, and the Messiah will enter there, in His Glory, and plant the soles of His feet there, as Ezekiel wrote under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, in chapter 44.
 
Upvote 0
Psa 90:10 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

3 score+10= 70

Mat_24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Was Christ talking about the generation of his time?? I believe so, but I also believe that because so much of the prophecy in the Gospel was unfulfilled, that it applied to the "last generation" as well, which ironically is starting to line up with our reality as we are 65 years into that generation and the Eze38 war is lining up flawlessly with the recent removal of power from Libya and Egypt. Persia and Russia are already allies, and the recent alliance between Saudi Arabia and Israel is consistent with the coming war as they are not mentioned as one of the countries that comes against Israel.

Here is the Breakdown I gave BW, tell me what you think.. Keep in mind, if I was off by one year, this entire post fails, it just works to perfectly based on the data. (you could say I have an affliction for biblical numerology)

Jesus born, Judgement 70 years later. (1 generation) 70ad
Israel born, Judgement 70 years later. (1 generation) 2018

Israel born 1948+70=2018, judgement, or middle of 70th week of Daniel..

If the 70th week starts next year, as I suspect it will, that is 66 years after the return of the Jews to Israel.

2014=2+1+4= 7, Gods Holy number, 14 is the sum of its factors, 2x7

Separation of Christians and anti christians.

2x7 (Gods signifier is 7) (2 signifies separation, Christians/Pagans)

TWO: This number can mean difference, division or double portion.

  • In the Creation event, God separated light and darkness. [Genesis 1:3-4]
  • The Ten Commandments were inscribed on two tablets of stone. [Exodus 31:18; 32:15; 34:1, 4, 29]
  • The children of Israel were forbidden to collect manna on the Sabbath and therefore were permitted to collect a double portion of manna on Friday.[Exodus 16:5]
  • On the 6th day of Creation God created two—male and female—of every species in order that fertility might be a blessing to the earth. [Genesis 1:24-31]
  • In the New Testament, Christians also saw this number as a symbol of the second person of the Trinity, the Incarnation of God the Son in the perfection of His humanity and divinity.


2018= 2+1+8=11 (the sum of 18's factors is 6) 3x6 or 6+6+6, or Judgement.

ELEVEN: disorder: 10 + 1 or 12 - 1; also disorganization, lack of fulfillment, imperfection.

  • At Kadesh-Barnea the Children of Israel traveled eleven days from Mt. Sinai. In one more day they could have been in the Holy Land but their faith failed them [Deuteronomy 1:2].
  • The last two Kings of Judah each reigned eleven years before the Babylonian conquest of Judah: Jehoiakim [2 Kings 23:36; 24:1; 2 Chronicles 36:5-6 ] and Zedekiah [2 Chronicles 36:11; Jeremiah 52:1]
  • When Judas died there were only eleven Apostles - their number was incomplete; to complete the order of twelve, a twelfth Apostles was chosen by lot [Acts 1:15-26].


2021, end of the Juddgement

21 is the sum of its factors, or 7, Gods holy number.. 3x7=21

THREE: In sacred Scripture the number three represents that which is solid, real, substantial, and something in its completeness. This number usually indicates something of importance or significance in God's plan of salvation by identifying an important event in Salvation History. This number operates as a "sign-post" in Scripture study for the reader to "pay attention" to the significance of the next event.
In the Old Testament:

  • It is the first of the 4 perfect numbers which are 3 (divine perfection); 7 (spiritual perfection); 10 (ordinal perfection); and 12 (governmental perfection).
  • The earth was separated from the waters on the 3rd day [Genesis 1:9-13]
  • There were three Patriarchs of the children of Israel: Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob/Israel
  • There are three verses in the Priestly Blessing in which the Tetragrammaton, YHWH, God's holy covenant name, appears three times [Numbers 6:24-26].
  • Three times the angelic Seraphim cry "Holy, Holy, Holy" [Isaiah 6:3 and Revelation 4:8].
  • After the Great Flood mankind descended from the three sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. [Genesis 10:1-32]
  • Three "men" announced to Abraham that his barren wife would bear a son [Genesis 18:14].
  • Abraham was commanded to sacrifice his son after a three-day journey to Mt. Moriah [Genesis 22:1-4].
  • Baby Moses was hidden by his mother for three months [Exodus 2:1] and the adult Moses requests of Pharaoh that he let Moses take his people on a three-day journey into the wilderness to offer sacrifice to their God [Exodus 3:18].
  • There were three divisions of the desert Tabernacle and later the Temple in Jerusalem: the Outer Court, the Holy Place, and the Holy of Holies [Exodus 27:9; 26:1-30, 35-37; 31-34; 38:9-20; 21-31; 40:1-33; 1 Kings 6: 1-37].
  • God is mentioned three times in the Shema, the Old Covenant profession of faith [Deuteronomy 6:4] and three times in the priestly blessing [Numbers 6:24-26].
  • The three attributes of God mentioned in Exodus 33:18-19 are hen, rachum, and hesed (gracious, compassionate /merciful, and loving kindness).
  • Of the seven annual Holy Feasts of the Sinai Covenant, three are "pilgrim feasts" in which every man 13 years or older must present himself before God at His Sanctuary and later at the Temple in Jerusalem. This command is repeated three time in scripture [Exodus 23:14-17; 34:18-23; Deuteronomy 16:16]
  • Jonah spent three days in the belly of the great fish [Jonah 1:17]; Jonah took three days to journey across the city of Nineveh [Jonah 3:3]
2+2+1=5 (2021, end of Judgement)

FIVE: This is the number of power and Divine grace.

  • Five kinds of animals were sacrificed under the Old Covenant Law of sacrifice: goats, sheep, cattle, pigeons and doves [Genesis 15:9; Exodus 29:38; Leviticus 1:1-17; 3:1; 4:3, 14, 23, 28; 5:6-7]
  • God changed Abram's name to Abraham by adding the letter/number five to his name [Genesis 17:5]. He changed Sarai's name by adding the same letter/number with the value of "grace" to form the name Sarah [Genesis 17:15]. Abraham and Sarah were transformed by grace to become the parents of a family from which the Messiah would be born
  • The Tabernacle was measured in multiples of five [Exodus 25 - 27]
  • There are five books of the Torah (first 5 books of the Old Testament)
  • Matthew's Gospel is divided into five "books" composed of five narratives and five discourses.
  • Jesus bled from five wounds on the altar of the Cross: His two hands, his two feet and His head.
  • Daniel proclaimed the Fifth Kingdom to be an Everlasting Kingdom [Daniel 2:37-44].


We are on Gods prophetic time clock, the Jews are the mechanism he will use to start it up again..


You couldnt make this stuff up if you wanted... I guess we will have to see..


If only the Jews knew how big of a mistake it is to build the Temple.. We cant stop what is coming..


Bare in mind, I didnt calculate these claims until after I figured we were the last generation from Christs, Isaiahs, Hoseas, and Daniels prophecies.

I just started looking for synchronicity in the numbers according to holy numbers and what they are used for throughout scripture.

Dear CP, for my better understanding of this post, I was wondering if and how the shortened or shortening of days in the end applies and affects all of your wonderful calculus? I thought that it might be another attribute of God, and not wanting any man to interpret it until the right man comes along., as in Rev, seal up this book/prophecy? Thanks :)
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

xXChristPeripheralXx

Well-Known Member
Nov 27, 2013
1,031
19
✟1,337.00
Faith
Protestant
Marital Status
Married
Dear CP, I was wondering if and how the shortened days applies to all of this calculus? Thanks :)

We wont be here to see the whole show...

The elect are not appointed to wrath..

Rev is NOT sealed.. Daniels vision is however.. But its becoming more clear by the day..

2 Esd 13 tells us what we can expect... Try and wrap your mind around the prophet Esdra and what he was given in prophecy..

16 For as I conceive in mine understanding, woe unto them that shall be left in those days and much more woe unto them that are not left behind!
17 For they that were not left were in heaviness.
18 Now understand I the things that are laid up in the latter days, which shall happen unto them(those in heaviness), and to those that are left behind.
19 Therefore are they come into great perils and many necessities, like as these dreams declare.
20 Yet is it easier for him that is in danger to come into these things, than to pass away as a cloud out of the world, and not to see the things that happen in the last days. And he answered unto me, and said,
21 The interpretation of the vision shall I shew thee, and I will open unto thee the thing that thou hast required.
22 Whereas thou hast spoken of them that are left behind, this is the interpretation:
23 He that shall endure the peril in that time hath kept himself: they that be fallen into danger are such as have works, and faith toward the Almighty.
24 Know this therefore, that they which be left behind are more blessed than they that be dead.
25 This is the meaning of the vision: Whereas thou sawest a man coming up from the midst of the sea:
 
Upvote 0
Dear CP, I just thought of something that placed a stumbling block in my path as I pondered this calculus, I was thinking that this is really interesting and I too see great truth in even how you are using this calculus but the block came when I wondered how will this play out today? My reasoning is what I would do for myself, and in your case I am using it for myself and while considering the dates of the 20th century, what if it was more like, today? Thanks :)
 
Upvote 0

ebedmelech

My dog Micah in the pic
Site Supporter
Jul 3, 2012
9,002
680
✟235,464.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Constitution
You missed a few of them and their purposes are totally, then, hidden from you.
I don't think so.
God's created temple in the created heavens will never cease to exist, and He sits on His throne there in the Person of God the Word, the Son of Man.
That created temple in the heavens is "set in the sun" as we are informed in the Psalms, and in Isaiah, and in Enoch.
Sorry, but this is pure fantasy. The only temple ever in heaven is the Lord Jesus...and He is not created.
The first temple not made with hands -in ruins and vacant since the fall- was Adam.
The last and second and final temple not made with hands is "Israel, the New Man.
Nope...no where in scripture is Adam called a temple. Adam needed no mediator or "go between" when He was created. He enjoyed perfect fellowship with God until he sinned with his wife Eve. So I won't accept that premise because scripture doesn't even allude to such.
The tent/tabernacle in the wilderness was with hands -where the Glory dwelt between the Cherubim on the Mercy Seat of the Ark of the Covenant- and it was set at Shiloh;

The first stone temple made with hands on earth was Solomon's temple, and is called the first temple because it was permanent, not movable like the tent; and the Glory entered that temple at its dedication, and departed at the time of the Babylonian dispersion;

The second temple built by Ezra and Nehemiah and those who returned to Jerusalem never had the Glory, but it was the temple of God, and God respected it and the Israelis were to keep His Law for that, even though the Glory never returned.
That temple was defiled and the Maccabees re-dedicated it, and later, Herod, a wicked man, rebuilt it and Jesus respected that temple though the Glory never returned to dwell there. Jesus even called it "My Father's House".

That temple was destroyed in 70 AD, but til then, it was the House of God made with hands, on earth, and Paul and all the Jews who were born again in Christ kept the Law and called it the temple of God in Jerusalem.
None of the above escaped me. However since the conversation is about this *so called* 3rd temple, I felt no need to go into the history of temples. They are provided in scripture.

On another note Jesus certainly did respect Herod's Temple because God's Glory and His name WAS THERE! You can't find one verse that says it wasn't.
What in the world are you talking about???

*Why did the angel appear to Zecharias as he offered up incense in the temple to tell him Elizabeth would give birth to John?

*Why did Jesus call it "My Father's House"?

*Why did Jesus participate in EVERY FEAST at THAT TEMPLE if God's name was not there???

*Why when Jesus died...did God rip the veil in half?

That temple was honored by God until Jesus died and the veil was torn in half. It was God telling them the Holy of Holies was no longer needed!!!!

There will be two more temples made with hands in Jerusalem. The tribulation temple will not have the Glory enter it, just like the last one and its remodel job, did not.
Then there will be the millennial temple, and it will be made with hands, and the Glory of God will dwell there, as Ezekiel wrote, for the Messiah will be the Glory of God who enters and plants the soles of His feet there.
Total fantasy! You simply will not accept what the scripture teaches. The church is and will be the ONLY temple God recognizes. The temple describe in Ezekiel 40-48 was never built and is a vision Ezekiel was escorted through. AT one point in Ezekiel 43:10-12, Ezekiel is told to describe the temple to Israel and *if* they were ashamed of their iniquities, to make the design known to them. There's no record Ezekiel had to do so...so it was never done, because Israel never was ashamed of their inquities.
The LORD Jesus Christ is that last/second temple not made with hands, and every adopted in His living Spirit son is a living stone in that temple, but there is yet a third temple made with hands coming, and the Messiah will enter there, in His Glory, and plant the soles of His feet there, as Ezekiel wrote under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, in chapter 44.
The Lord Jesus is THE ONLY TEMPLE MADE WITHOUT HANDS! Hebrews makes that very clear!

As for this third temple...nope...it's total conjecture! I will also say this...if Israel does build a third temple...God will not put His name there...so it's a waste. Just as Hebrews says Jesus FULFILLED the temple...it's only purpose was to offer up sacrifices to God in obedience to the Old Covenant. In case you're not aware Jesus fulfilled that covenant...and in doing so offered Himslef as the LAST SACRIFICE. As Hebrews 9:23-26 says very clearly:
23 Therefore it was necessary for the copies of the things in the heavens to be cleansed with these, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
24 For Christ did not enter a holy place made with hands, a mere copy of the true one, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us;
25 nor was it that He would offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the holy place year by year with blood that is not his own.
26 Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now once at the consummation of the ages He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.


If that's not clear enough for you...I don't know what is! There IS NO REQUIREMENT WHATSOEVER for a third temple!!!
 
Upvote 0

xXChristPeripheralXx

Well-Known Member
Nov 27, 2013
1,031
19
✟1,337.00
Faith
Protestant
Marital Status
Married
Dear CP, I just thought of something that placed a stumbling block in my path as I pondered this calculus, I was thinking that this is really interesting and I too see great truth in even how you are using this calculus but the block came when I wondered how will this play out today? My reasoning is what I would do for myself, and in your case I am using it for myself and while considering the dates of the 20th century, what if it was more like, today? Thanks :)

I understand your concern.. You see, any dates that were calculated before the return of Israel were doomed to fail.

Just ask the Jehovas witness or SDA's.. They founded their Churches on failed prophetic date setting..

I am not a date setter, I am just trying to reconcile what we know given the times..

First and foremost, keep your faith in Christ.. I am not out to set a date, start a following and lead others into confusion..

I havent published my understanding in any way that should be accepted as objective fact, but Im not an idiot..

There is so much other prophecy unfolding right now to give us an idea of where we are prophetically..

Please, just keep your eyes in your Bible, and focus on bringing others into the faith.

Tomorrow will worry about itself.. Just make sure you are right with Christ when it does..

With me?


Read my first post, watch the video i made that sorely needs to be updated with the recent news regarding the Pope and John Kerry getting involved in peace with Israel and Palestine..

Without peace with palestine, the Jew cannot build their temple. People think the Dome of the Rock needs to be destroyed to build the temple, but they are all wrong.. The temple is going to be built next to it..

Rev 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles:(Muslims are Gentiles)and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Here is a diagram of the Temple mt in Jerusalem with a full scale of the Temple next to the dome of the Rock.

Temple_zpsfd346d00.jpg



How it looks right now..
templemount2.jpg
 
Upvote 0
We wont be here to see the whole show...

The elect are not appointed to wrath..

Rev is NOT sealed.. Daniels vision is however.. But its becoming more clear by the day..

2 Esd 13 tells us what we can expect... Try and wrap your mind around the prophet Esdra and what he was given in prophecy..

16 For as I conceive in mine understanding, woe unto them that shall be left in those days and much more woe unto them that are not left behind!
17 For they that were not left were in heaviness.
18 Now understand I the things that are laid up in the latter days, which shall happen unto them(those in heaviness), and to those that are left behind.
19 Therefore are they come into great perils and many necessities, like as these dreams declare.
20 Yet is it easier for him that is in danger to come into these things, than to pass away as a cloud out of the world, and not to see the things that happen in the last days. And he answered unto me, and said,
21 The interpretation of the vision shall I shew thee, and I will open unto thee the thing that thou hast required.
22 Whereas thou hast spoken of them that are left behind, this is the interpretation:
23 He that shall endure the peril in that time hath kept himself: they that be fallen into danger are such as have works, and faith toward the Almighty.
24 Know this therefore, that they which be left behind are more blessed than they that be dead.
25 This is the meaning of the vision: Whereas thou sawest a man coming up from the midst of the sea:

Okay, now that the website seems to be working, I'll try again on this reply......

Hi CP, Before we go into any further detail, please explain to me in one short sentence, what does, "heaviness" mean to you? This can be done, and I want to see if you are willing to go deeper into the law of God on this? Thanks :)
 
Upvote 0
I understand your concern.. You see, any dates that were calculated before the return of Israel were doomed to fail.

Just ask the Jehovas witness or SDA's.. They founded their Churches on failed prophetic date setting..

I am not a date setter, I am just trying to reconcile what we know given the times..

First and foremost, keep your faith in Christ.. I am not out to set a date, start a following and lead others into confusion..

I havent published my understanding in any way that should be accepted as objective fact, but Im not an idiot..

There is so much other prophecy unfolding right now to give us an idea of where we are prophetically..

Please, just keep your eyes in your Bible, and focus on bringing others into the faith.

Tomorrow will worry about itself.. Just make sure you are right with Christ when it does..

With me?


Read my first post, watch the video i made that sorely needs to be updated with the recent news regarding the Pope and John Kerry getting involved in peace with Israel and Palestine..

Without peace with palestine, the Jew cannot build their temple. People think the Dome of the Rock needs to be destroyed to build the temple, but they are all wrong.. The temple is going to be built next to it..

Rev 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles:(Muslims are Gentiles)and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Here is a diagram of the Temple mt in Jerusalem with a full scale of the Temple next to the dome of the Rock.

Temple_zpsfd346d00.jpg



How it looks right now..
templemount2.jpg

Dear CP, I have studied a few of these various faiths in great detail and have drawn my own conclusions on them, and as I suspect, God shortens the days so that we who are watching (Watchmen) may see the changing of the times and the law of God occur within a notable time span or otherwise subtle changes go un-noticed over longer periods of time, besides this, He already paid the price on the Cross and no need to go through that again. We are watching for a living Christ, or dead?

Notice, you mention the failed prophecies, and I'm mentioning current affairs that would follow after that very period of time, and these would be the span of days in which all of the prophecies occur in a very short space of time and up to the end, like a mini series of the first and original event. BTW, the failed prophecies were prophesied to fail but I suppose that you missed that part, I did and later realized it, and it is essential to see the reality, or else we continue in the same deception that the world believes about those particular failed prophecies that you itemized. If you might consider this basic and general idea, that was the time when the abomination's began that would cover the entire population by the nature of the device used in this deception, and the world went crazy with occult religions and off to the moon with technology that now touches every life that I know, and when this reaches every life on earth we have then completed the age of the gentiles, or however it's worded, err :)

I have been writing about technology and electricity and the beast and the last days, and if you examine when all of these things that become idols in our lives as we have become entirely dependent on them, we find that Electricity, the light bulb and a few other electrical inventions were introduced into the world, and this affects every living person by a certain time in the evolution of man and into the future of technology and gadgets and electrical power to give it all life. This electrical power becomes the life force of the devices that we have become entirely dependent on.

Now, please argue this point about idolatry and in context with Rev 13:4. Bring Rev 13 up to the 20th century where you seem to find interest and examine this field of the world. You may have traveled the world but you did when your single eye was closed to what I'm telling you right now for our present day. This I ask as an interest in your work, and I believe that you are wise enough and open minded so to try this POV and consider what I briefly detailed; this is something that Satan can use that would affect every person on earth, regardless of religion, race, language, free and bond, rich and poor, and it involves $$$ big time. What else can become an idol in every life and use the power that may fail at any undetermined time and cause death by failure of medical equipment and life support systems, and all banking, and all communications of 'wicked tongues' that have come into this world as counterfeit Holy Spirits.

Dear brother, these are only a few things that I have considered in my own research. There's many parallel's in prophetic segments and there's one main event, we cannot mix the two or any. I'll rest here, Thanks :)
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0
Dear CP, another point that I still neglected to mention about "Electricity" is the Voice that it creates to substitute the actual Holy Spirit, which is pneuma-tic-air, and that it being the evil life force that man has become entirely dependent it becomes the voice of prophecy that uses another form to travel from bodily temple to bodily temple. The scripture says to let him who has an "ear" hear what this voice is saying to you. The Holy Spirit can only travel from mouth to mouth by believers and it must be the natural breath-pneuma or else it counterfeited by other invisible forces that are not generated from our natural mouth and heard directly by the hearer.

Telephone or any artificial communication is counterfeit and cannot sustain the natural Spirit in the pneuma-voice of prophecy. The scripture is not saying "let him who has a cell phone text another or post your gospels on the internet, but God's people do exploits and do the work of God by using Satan's devices to inform one another of this deception, keeping in mind that I or you cannot deliver the Holy Spirit by alternate means of devices, meaning.... the Holy Spirit cannot live in artificial devices, but only the human heart and mind-spirit and through the 5 senses. This is the purpose of the assembly of the church, to meet and hear and be fed, as Jesus preach to the multitudes by His own voice and no megaphone or audible systems strung out over a stadium. This stuff is new world order stuff that was not so wide spread as religion once was but when there came the rise in technology we also saw a falling away from the church, do the math as you have but use my ingredients and see what product you get. Use it like the new 3-D printer and see if it forms an image of today in Prophecy.

God bless you, truly. Thanks :)
 
Upvote 0

xXChristPeripheralXx

Well-Known Member
Nov 27, 2013
1,031
19
✟1,337.00
Faith
Protestant
Marital Status
Married
Okay, now that the website seems to be working, I'll try again on this reply......

Hi CP, Before we go into any further detail, please explain to me in one short sentence, what does, "heaviness" mean to you? This can be done, and I want to see if you are willing to go deeper into the law of God on this? Thanks :)

Heaviness means those who are heavily burdened and blinded by their sin.

Hard hearted folks who dont have the truth of Christ, and are so consumed by their sin, they have blasphemed the Holy Spirit, damning their souls..
 
Upvote 0

xXChristPeripheralXx

Well-Known Member
Nov 27, 2013
1,031
19
✟1,337.00
Faith
Protestant
Marital Status
Married
Dear CP, I have studied a few of these various faiths in great detail and have drawn my own conclusions on them, and as I suspect, God shortens the days so that we who are watching (Watchmen) may see the changing of the times and the law of God occur within a notable time span or otherwise subtle changes go un-noticed over longer periods of time, besides this, He already paid the price on the Cross and no need to go through that again. We are watching for a living Christ, or dead?

Notice, you mention the failed prophecies, and I'm mentioning current affairs that would follow after that very period of time, and these would be the span of days in which all of the prophecies occur in a very short space of time and up to the end, like a mini series of the first and original event. BTW, the failed prophecies were prophesied to fail but I suppose that you missed that part, I did and later realized it, and it is essential to see the reality, or else we continue in the same deception that the world believes about those particular failed prophecies that you itemized. If you might consider this basic and general idea, that was the time when the abomination's began that would cover the entire population by the nature of the device used in this deception, and the world went crazy with occult religions and off to the moon with technology that now touches every life that I know, and when this reaches every life on earth we have then completed the age of the gentiles, or however it's worded, err :)

I have been writing about technology and electricity and the beast and the last days, and if you examine when all of these things that become idols in our lives as we have become entirely dependent on them, we find that Electricity, the light bulb and a few other electrical inventions were introduced into the world, and this affects every living person by a certain time in the evolution of man and into the future of technology and gadgets and electrical power to give it all life. This electrical power becomes the life force of the devices that we have become entirely dependent on.

Now, please argue this point about idolatry and in context with Rev 13:4. Bring Rev 13 up to the 20th century where you seem to find interest and examine this field of the world. You may have traveled the world but you did when your single eye was closed to what I'm telling you right now for our present day. This I ask as an interest in your work, and I believe that you are wise enough and open minded so to try this POV and consider what I briefly detailed; this is something that Satan can use that would affect every person on earth, regardless of religion, race, language, free and bond, rich and poor, and it involves $$$ big time. What else can become an idol in every life and use the power that may fail at any undetermined time and cause death by failure of medical equipment and life support systems, and all banking, and all communications of 'wicked tongues' that have come into this world as counterfeit Holy Spirits.

Dear brother, these are only a few things that I have considered in my own research. There's many parallel's in prophetic segments and there's one main event, we cannot mix the two or any. I'll rest here, Thanks :)

Tell me, are you talking about computers??

Regarding "shortened days"..

Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

I believe what Christ is referring to is the rapture of the Church by this, very literally..
 
Upvote 0
Heaviness means those who are heavily burdened and blinded by their sin.

Hard hearted folks who dont have the truth of Christ, and are so consumed by their sin, they have blasphemed the Holy Spirit, damning their souls..

Dear CP, you have described the aftermath of the affect, the results of the heaviness. Let me put it in context with the Law of God and His scale of truth. What is the heaviness actually pointing to can be said in one word, in fact: it's a tilting of a scale in this imagery of the prophet's vision. I may also ask, how would this heaviness relate to the Yoke of Christ? I am trying to allow you to see the meaning of scriptures for yourself by giving you key elements of interpreting this and see what the prophet sees.

The prophets were led by the Holy Spirit of God and not by men's written words. These men saw images when they saw this in vision. Every prophet from the beginning to the ending will prophesy of the same issue, what is the key issue?

I'll give you my thoughts in brief, The heaviness is pictured by man as being a heavy weight, sort of like a paper weight on a stack of paper but this is not the image, it's rather a weight scale, as in measuring proportions, and this is pictured in a number of parables. The heaviness is describing the tilting of this scale of Justice, and so I ask, how does man's sin tilt this scale in the prophet's imagery?

The only way that a prophecy may be interpreted is by the same imagery and written word that it voices in Spirit. This cannot be calculated simply by the methods that men have been using. You say that the Book of Daniel has been opened, and Revelation is unfolding each day, well, IMO this is not the case, not entirely true, that is. All scripture must be considered when looking at any part of it,

The light of the single eye is the lamp of the body, and it is written that some of these single eyes will also be darkened. The light of the natural eye is the lamp of the body and it's always in darkness but the light of the single eye that shines forth it's bright light will see heaven, for no darkness/heaviness is allowed in heaven as it tilts the scale as Eve and Adam did in Eden.

How do you see this heaviness relate to the "spirits hovering over the waters" in Genesis and in the beginning of God's Creation story? This Yoke was created when the Son of God was Created in the beginning, and the Son of God is the Ending/Revelation. Genesis to Revelation, the Beginning to the Ending is Prophecy, and to say that prophecy ended or is in the past is saying that Christ is crucified and the Cross is cut down to the 8th commandment, this left only the feminine of the seed after removing the masculine-male from the Cross.

x141 knows exactly what I'm talking about because he too sees the hidden manna that is for a single eye to see; natural eyes cannot see the hidden manna. You have many key elements at work in your calculus but you fall short with the lack of ingredients, and that is Christ in this picture. Christ is Prophecy, He is the Voice of Prophecy, and He wrote it Himself and He Revealed Himself to man in man's time so that He may save a remnant of man.

To place all of your trust on facts of the past and without seeing the present is saying God is dead! God is ALIVE and so does His prophecy continue as the blood in our veins and of the Vine. Prophecy didn't end in 1948 my friend, nor at any time in history, it continues and you must look at today to see the one abomination that raised up in the 20th century and is still a global abomination to this very moment and increases with intensity, while there be a falling away of hearts after God. The image of the beast is too attractive and the man is deceived and consumed by his own follies. This is an attribute of the beast, to devour himself with fire. [James 5:3].

I'll cover more in other replies because this does all relate to the last day, and a Living Christ.

Thanks :)
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0
Tell me, are you talking about computers??

Regarding "shortened days"..

Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

I believe what Christ is referring to is the rapture of the Church by this, very literally..

I don't know how to answer this question because I don't know from where you see computers, can you clarify this question please? Reason I ask is because I likely already gave you the answer but it's still not obvious, obviously. Thanks :)
 
Upvote 0
Tell me, are you talking about computers??

Regarding "shortened days"..

Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

I believe what Christ is referring to is the rapture of the Church by this, very literally..

The written word says "elect", and so I ask, is this also the "multitude" in your theological data?
 
Upvote 0
Dear CP, I'd like to offer another prophecy to support my idea of the "shortened days" phenomenon, first the reference:

Lamentations 4:5
Viewing the King James Version.
Lamentations 4:5.
They that did feed delicately are desolate in the streets: they that were brought up in scarlet embrace dunghills.

A little here, and a little there, a man eats an entire bicycle, have you heard that one? Good example.

IMO, and based on the entire prophetic view from all of the prophets, I conclude that this is saying that mankind feeds on their own abominations as in Rev 13:4, and they do it over a stretch of time un-noticed so that it touches them delicately in mind, and it's the mind-spirit that is being fed in this prophecy, it's not speaking of our natural stomach. Something with weight, i.e., an imbalance in the Yoke, which is the Law causing the "heaviness" is notable and not eaten delicately, but rather find opposition with true believers. The scripture speaks of the wicked, right? Thanks :)
 
Upvote 0
Tell me, are you talking about computers??

Regarding "shortened days"..

Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

I believe what Christ is referring to is the rapture of the Church by this, very literally..

Dear CP, forgive me for being so slow to catch on to your question, and I just noticed after skimming over my post that you referenced, I didn't use the word "computer" in any of it or make reference to a computer and so it sort of wouldn't make sense without giving some sort of an example that is technical and a component of just one of millions of idols, the computer.

The best example in context to my point in post and using computers as the object I can say that it's the difference of storing the Holy Spirit on a computer hard disk storage drive or either the human mind hard disk storage drive of flesh and spirit. This is my point using the object that you are looking for in this picture. It was there all along and I myself overlooked it in a pile of junk computer hardware. Lol Thanks :)
 
Upvote 0
Consider this, some idiot like a false christ can come into your life and be a close companion to your entire family and some day, in the last days of your relationship with him he dies and you discover a hidden secret that he has, bit by bit fed you and your entire family an entire bicycle as you all sat and ate at the dinner table, even when he ate as your guest.
Is deception something that comes suddenly or is it the Truth that comes as a SHOCK? Is our cup half full or half empty? Do you really know?

My point is, where was the deception in this picture? How did it come upon them like a thief in the night? This is your homework assignment, to ponder this deep and think on these things, and in the case that you chose not to accept it, I'll let it go. Thanks :)
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0
Status
Not open for further replies.