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Are you guys talking about fallen angels? Arent they bound??

Angels are men when on earth, are we yet, bound? The answer is two sided, the wicked are presently running amok while God's people are in captivity, and await our release when Christ shows Himself to the world. The Parousia (spelling?) is what we should expect but it isn't going to pan out as the world thinks, some will understand as the days follow quickly, and He comes in a flash that will affect the conscience minds of the elect first so to harvest a good crop of Golden ripe apples so to present as a living sacrifice unto God, and they are the multitude! Heavenly bushels of Golden Delicious Apples for our Lord. I'm anxious to please Him and see the Gleam and Sparkles in His Eye's when we present the Harvest to Him. Thanks :)
 
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Angels are men when on earth, are we yet, bound? The answer is two sided, the wicked are presently running amok while God's people are in captivity, and await our release when Christ shows Himself to the world. The Parousia (spelling?) is what we should expect but it isn't going to pan out as the world thinks, some will understand as the days follow quickly, and He comes in a flash that will affect the conscience minds of the elect first so to harvest a good crop of Golden ripe apples so to present as a living sacrifice unto God, and they are the multitude! Heavenly bushels of Golden Delicious Apples for our Lord. I'm anxious to please Him and see the Gleam ans Sparkles in His Eye's when we present the Harvest to Him. Thanks :)

Interesting, so the fallen angels that came to earth were like humans?

Why did they have giants for offspring if they are men when they fall to earth?
 
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Interesting, so the fallen angels that came to earth were like humans?

Why did they have giants for offspring if they are men when they fall to earth?

The idea of "giants" is a flip of the coin, as prophecy repeats but once literal, and then spiritual. In today's passing of this, it means to me that it's a parallel image of a world filled with exalted flesh, fallen spirits. Men were angels, even Enoch would be considered an angel of God but this too has been attacked to put asunder all that God first established in Creation. If Satan can sabotage the beginning he can then fumble the ending play. And this is a brief description of the hidden agenda. This is why we are having so much confusion over scriptures today and it's because we are to await this new Revelation and place our Bibles in the side pocket of our spiritual Ark-mind's and "hear" the Voice of Prophecy speak from a human mouth that breathes pnuema-air, and Holy Spirit. We were promised a counselor and He does come to instruct just before the ending just so that this uninformed world might be informed so that they may be Judged fairly by their own conscience mind's when they then see and compare to the True Law that Comes with Christ.

This is why we must live in faith until we learn the new song. Thanks :)
 
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The idea of "giants" is a flip of the coin, as prophecy repeats but once literal, and then spiritual. In today's passing of this, it means to me that it's a parallel image of a world filled with exalted flesh, fallen spirits. Men were angels, even Enoch would be considered an angel of God but this too has been attacked to put asunder all that God first established in Creation. If Satan can sabotage the beginning he can then fumble the ending play. And this is a brief description of the hidden agenda. This is why we are having so much confusion over scriptures today and it's because we are to await this new Revelation and place our Bibles in the side pocket of our spiritual Ark-mind's and "hear" the Voice of Prophecy speak from a human mouth that breathes pnuema-air, and Holy Spirit. We were promised a counselor and He does come to instruct just before the ending just so that this uninformed world might be informed so that they may be Judged fairly by their own conscience mind's when they then see and compare to the True Law that Comes with Christ.

This is why we must live in faith until we learn the new song. Thanks :)

I believe that men are made from the earth. Our soul is no different from an Angels soul, but they are not bound by our sinful nature, which we inherited.

Have you read the book of Enoch? I dont find it to be an accurate inspired testimony, am I wrong?
 
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What is Jesus Christs birthday then?

Exactly the human gestation period from the eve of Chanukah[the Feast of Dedication] to the beginning of Tabernacles, which is nine months later.

Jesus was born at the beginning of Tabernacles in the Jewish Calendar. His circumcision then, was on the 8th Day, which is a sign of the New Beginning. called "That Great Day" in Judaism.


When the prophecy with dual meaning was given in Haggai chapter 2, of the Foundation Stone of the Second Temple was/shall be laid [the temple of Haggai's day was not the one of the prophecy, but foreshadowed it, only], Chanukah was not a Jewish Festival yet, but it came to be a miracle that types Him being the Light of the World, and the Servant Light.
Passover is 6 months from Tabernacles, so Jesus was 33 1/2 years old at His death.
It is all in the Scriptures, but tradition blinds the eye, and the casting off and away the instruction of the "Schoolmaster", the Hellenized western Church became ignorant and uninformed -and many myths were made up.
 
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I believe that men are made from the earth. Our soul is no different from an Angels soul, but they are not bound by our sinful nature, which we inherited.

Have you read the book of Enoch? I dont find it to be an accurate inspired testimony, am I wrong?

Why do you fight with yourself? Do you not know from where the spirit comes? Angels are not bound yet, you miss the point, entirely.

Realize that a fallen man is no longer an angelic figure because of a spirit change. Angels are special agents and cannot be compared exactly with man but when God sends a spirit from Heaven and to earth it must take on flesh and become man. Does this change the angel's identity? Only if the angel is brainwashed and given another and only to believe that he is still an angelic creature. This is the same as becoming gods, gods can be considered angels and visa verse depending on the switching in commands.

If an identity thief steals your identity, did he steal your flesh?

Ye, I've read Enoch and many of the apocrypha gospels, I was raised a Catholic myself. I know more than you realize.

Do you see giant people running amok the earth right now? Thanks :)
 
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Exactly the human gestation period from the eve of Chanukah[the Feast of Dedication] to the beginning of Tabernacles, which is nine months later.

Jesus was born at the beginning of Tabernacles in the Jewish Calendar. His circumcision then, was on the 8th Day, which is a sign of the New Beginning. called "That Great Day" in Judaism.


When the prophecy with dual meaning was given in Haggai chapter 2, of the Foundation Stone of the Second Temple was/shall be laid [the temple of Haggai's day was not the one of the prophecy, but foreshadowed it, only], Chanukah was not a Jewish Festival yet, but it came to be a miracle that types Him being the Light of the World, and the Servant Light.
Passover is 6 months from Tabernacles, so Jesus was 33 1/2 years old at His death.
It is all in the Scriptures, but tradition blinds the eye, and the casting off and away the instruction of the "Schoolmaster", the Hellenized western Church became ignorant and uninformed -and many myths were made up.

Ok, so we dont have a definitive day that Christ was born on, thats all i needed to know.

thx for clearing that up for me, God bless
 
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Why do you fight with yourself? Do you not know from where the spirit comes? Angels are not bound yet, you miss the point, entirely.

Realize that a fallen man is no longer an angelic figure because of a spirit change. Angels are special agents and cannot be compared exactly with man but when God sends a spirit from Heaven and to earth it must take on flesh and become man. Does this change the angel's identity? Only if the angel is brainwashed and given another and only to believe that he is still an angelic creature. This is the same as becoming gods, gods can be considered angels and visa verse depending on the switching in commands.

If an identity thief steals your identity, did he steal your flesh?

Ye, I've read Enoch and many of the apocrypha gospels, I was raised a Catholic myself. I know more than you realize.

Do you see giant people running amok the earth right now? Thanks :)

So when Michael is sent to earth, the angelic nature is actually that of a man?

And no, I dont believe Ive encountered an actual Giant before.
 
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So when Michael is sent to earth, the angelic nature is actually that of a man?

And no, I dont believe Ive encountered an actual Giant before.

Did Christ walk in flesh? And who was Christ, even while in flesh? It's all about authority, not based on flesh but flesh is a wineskin, and the spirit resides in flesh, otherwise the world believes that they are still running about in the Abyss, no they are not, they came back with seven more worse than they.

The seven is significant here, and is algebra based scripture, and it's also an image of a false christ in context. This is saying that the person who quenches the Holy Spirit, which means silencing the mouth's of God's Holy people, because of captivity, they then receive an AC spirit that is in the form of an Christ, but is really Satan in lambskin. Thanks :)
 
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If you believe that the heavens shall be destroyed, ( as the bible testifies) and not just this earth alone, then we have some 'lernin to do about "perpective".

Surely you have seen the Hubble deep field pictures of deep space.

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Now with this perspective, can you see how large the "field" is? Or does this "harvest" take place on this planet alone? And if the "harvest" is contained to this little planet, then what of the rest of the heavens which planets and stars number as the grains of sand ? Shall they all be destroyed with no explanation?

This should give anyone with basic reasoning skills some perspective as to what the "field" is, who the wheat and tares are, and what happens to stubble ( tares) when the harvest is over.
 
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If you believe that the heavens shall be destroyed, ( as the bible testifies) and not just this earth alone, then we have some 'lernin to do about "perpective".

Surely you have seen the Hubble deep field pictures of deep space.

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Now with this perspective, can you see how large the "field" is? Or does this "harvest" take place on this planet alone? And if the "harvest" is contained to this little planet, then what of the rest of the heavens which planets and stars number as the grains of sand ? Shall they all be destroyed with no explanation?

This should give anyone with basic reasoning skills some perspective as to what the "field" is, who the wheat and tares are, and what happens to stubble ( tares) when the harvest is over.

Ah man, I dont believe in aliens, lol..

I think the earth is earth, and the Heavens are above earth in every direction.

Naive of me?

Remember, the UFO's didnt really start until after Israel formed, kinda like a freak out session for those who work for satan to start convincing the world God wasnt real.

Bluebeam?
 
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Are you guys talking about fallen angels? Arent they bound??

The "unbinding" occurs when the fallen ones take on elemental bodies. The Book of Enoch mentions that they desire this ( so does the bible). Then shall the people of this world directly worship the fallen angels as gods, as they will be something they can see, touch, and feel, but with powers beyond our wildest imagination.

Rev 13
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.


The deception will be an imitation of Christ, but will speak blasphemous things. They will place him in the holy place ( temple of the creator). This is what Satan has wanted since the day he left his first estate and to his rebels with him.
 
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If you believe that the heavens shall be destroyed, ( as the bible testifies) and not just this earth alone, then we have some 'lernin to do about "perpective".

Surely you have seen the Hubble deep field pictures of deep space.

th
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Now with this perspective, can you see how large the "field" is? Or does this "harvest" take place on this planet alone? And if the "harvest" is contained to this little planet, then what of the rest of the heavens which planets and stars number as the grains of sand ? Shall they all be destroyed with no explanation?

This should give anyone with basic reasoning skills some perspective as to what the "field" is, who the wheat and tares are, and what happens to stubble ( tares) when the harvest is over.

If I can offer my idea here, I can agree with your principal idea and to possibly bring clarity, here's another perspective:

IMO, what occurs on earth occurs in heaven, affecting the celestial and terrestrial beings, and not to exclude the most important and the first thing that was ever made is the human mind, and in, and with Spirit, which is the image of God that became the likeness of God in flesh, this made the first soul.

What ever was created in spirit was made in man and so was the universe, and if the universe were made to model the mind and the spirit and that of God, then we might see a gathering of the Universe as it too models all of these things. Man has been scattered and I believe this is why we see an expanding universe.

Now, if all of the things are parallel then, this can also say that God draws near to us as the future and prophecies are passing. The universe might just change along with mankind, and yet, on the other hand, to think of other phenomenal based prophecies might even have a parallel to our galaxy as an image to the larger and smaller images of the model described.

The descriptions of the last day events seem to me to have a fulfillment in a few different forms. We might then witness a collecting universe and it might just become a faster process too, I can't say. Thanks :)
 
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Ah man, I dont believe in aliens, lol..

I think the earth is earth, and the Heavens are above earth in every direction.

Naive of me?

Remember, the UFO's didnt really start until after Israel formed, kinda like a freak out session for those who work for satan to start convincing the world God wasnt real.

Bluebeam?


Explain these versus:
Job 1
7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Psalm 104
26 There go the ships: there is that leviathan, whom thou hast made to play therein.

Isaiah 27:1
In that day the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.

Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
 
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The "unbinding" occurs when the fallen ones take on elemental bodies. The Book of Enoch mentions that they desire this ( so does the bible). Then shall the people of this world directly worship the fallen angels as gods, as they will be something they can see, touch, and feel, but with powers beyond our wildest imagination.


Rev 13
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

So the "he" with two horns that speaks like a lamb is going to be the fallen ones taking on fleshly bodies?

I have Enoch1, and I dont find it personally to be inspired by God. Not that I dont believe an Enochian testimony doesnt exist, just that God hasnt put it on my heart that Enoch1 is inspired scripture.

Your thoughts?


The deception will be an imitation of Christ, but will speak blasphemous things. They will place him in the holy place ( temple of the creator). This is what Satan has wanted since the day he left his first estate and to his rebels with him.

I know there is going to be a fake Jesus they try to convince us with.

Jesus tells us this.

Mat_24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
 
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Ah man, I dont believe in aliens, lol..

I think the earth is earth, and the Heavens are above earth in every direction.

Naive of me?

Remember, the UFO's didnt really start until after Israel formed, kinda like a freak out session for those who work for satan to start convincing the world God wasnt real.

Bluebeam?

Here's the deception behind the UFO myths, it was created by wicked people who know the gospels very well, and they don't want Christ to come and end their day of play behind the garage so they make up all sorts of propaganda, and they know not what they all do but are all led by one spirit of Satan.

The UFO is a model of Christ and His angels coming from above to invade them, they switch identities of the good with the evil to confuse us and because we are deceived we fall for the lies because we love those romance and sci-fi movies that are main theme in this. Ever notice any parallel features that might mimic the Coming of Christ and things that come from outer space to invade and destroy earth? The idea here is to guard our hearts, protect our mind's that is. Thanks :)
 
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Here's the deception behind the UFO myths, it was created by wicked people who know the gospels very well, and they don't want Christ to come and end their day of play behind the garage so they make up all sorts of propaganda, and they know not what they all do but are all led by one spirit of Satan.

The UFO is a model of Christ and His angels coming from above to invade them, they switch identities of the good with the evil to confuse us and because we are deceived we fall for the lies because we love those romance and sci-fi movies that are main theme in this. Ever notice any parallel features that might mimic the Coming of Christ and things that come from outer space to invade and destroy earth? The idea here is to guard our hearts, protect our mind's that is. Thanks :)

I thought aliens predicated on probability and evolution.. I thought they were a theory conjured up to keep people from God.

Silly me I suppose..
 
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Explain these versus:
Job 1
7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Psalm 104
26 There go the ships: there is that leviathan, whom thou hast made to play therein.

Isaiah 27:1
In that day the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.

Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.


What do you suppose the "up and down in it" depicts in this verse?
 
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If I can offer my idea here, I can agree with your principal idea and to possibly bring clarity, here's another perspective:

IMO, what occurs on earth occurs in heaven, affecting the celestial and terrestrial beings, and not to exclude the most important and the first thing that was ever made is the human mind, and in, and with Spirit, which is the image of God that became the likeness of God in flesh, this made the first soul.

What ever was created in spirit was made in man and so was the universe, and if the universe were made to model the mind and the spirit and that of God, then we might see a gathering of the Universe as it too models all of these things. Man has been scattered and I believe this is why we see an expanding universe.

Now, if all of the things are parallel then, this can also say that God draws near to us as the future and prophecies are passing. The universe might just change along with mankind, and yet, on the other hand, to think of other phenomenal based prophecies might even have a parallel to our galaxy as an image to the larger and smaller images of the model described.

The descriptions of the last day events seem to me to have a fulfillment in a few different forms. We might then witness a collecting universe and it might just become a faster process too, I can't say. Thanks :)

I can not disagree, and to add some more food for thought to your idea, consider how the spirit of God (7churches) ended up here on this planet. ( Just my thought mind you)

Rev 12:
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
 
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