3abn Continued

[Pickle]

Pickle. I'm shocked! Why do you make such threats?

That wasn't a threat, and anyone can see that it wasn't. I very plainly stated that I don't want it in the newspapers, didn't I? But I have no control over what other people choose to do.

 

[Pickle]

Could be assets held for resale $608,073 don't you think?

God Bless
Jim Larmore

That's an interesting possibility. Inventory and Assets for Resale are combined into one Inventory category on the 990. Could that be where WDQN is?

At the end of 2002 the 990- inventory amount was $618,377. At the end of 2003 it was $850,165. Doesn't look like WDQN could be in there after all.

 

[Pickle]

Tomatoe,

You have your facts all wrong. Gailon got involved after I did, as a result of the 2003 Dryden letter that a pastor and I secured, and I did not start looking into Danny's divorce and remarriage until four months after that. So when you say something about Joy and Linda coming along, you just don't have the facts.

 

[Adventist Dissident]

what proof do you have that she is innocent. No, don't give us that tired jargon that Danny's own people said.... that has been explained a thousand times.

danny and Walt Thompson said they had no evidence. What evidend do you need? Aparrently all you need is danny saying on world TV that she is guilty and she is. that is some one whocan be brainwashed.


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[Jimlarmore]

That wasn't a threat, and anyone can see that it wasn't. I very plainly stated that I don't want it in the newspapers, didn't I? But I have no control over what other people choose to do.

This would probably be read on the internet by as many or more people really interested than if it was put in the news paper.

God Bless
Jim Larmore

 

[Adventist Dissident]

3abn is a wonderful TV station. There are sermons by Doug Batchelor and Shawn Boonstra and many others. There are some excellent cooking classes which I particularly enjoy. And I do enjoy those that Danny will interview, I feel like I'm meeting new people when I watch.

I believe 3abn has only made good programming. I haven't noticed anyone talking against Linda on the program. In fact, I've never even heard her name mentioned. I especially enjoy 3abn if I'm sick at home. It is comforting to me.

again no one said the programmig was ont good it is not about 3ABN it is about Danny shelton

 

[Jimlarmore]

again no one said the programmig was ont good it is not about 3ABN it is about Danny shelton

Have you ever advocated that donors quit paying into 3ABN?

What have you done outside of this fiasco to resolve the problem in your own mind?
example: Calling someone like John Lomacang or someone on the board and speaking to them personally.

What do you see all of this coming to eventually? You are saying you want Danny to come foward and take responsibility for his so called heinous crimes. What if he does that, not that he should do that but lets say he did, what then my friend?

I may be way off base here and If I am I apologize but I have a feeling that if Danny did exactly that you or none of the other folks here would be satisfied. Why do I say that? Because I really don't think that is the ultimate goal of what is going on. I think satan himself is behind this. It's 3ABN that satan is after and he's going after it thru the sorted details of a fallen marriage between Danny and Linda.

God Bless
Jim Larmore

 

[tomatoe]

danny and Walt Thompson said they had no evidence. What evidend do you need? Aparrently all you need is danny saying on world TV that she is guilty and she is. that is some one whocan be brainwashed.


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Or, Linda saying she is innocent and the victim in all this. Brainwashing can go 2 ways. As far as evidence, they have said quite the opposite. That they do have evidence. The only mistake by 3abn was not to just say it like it was and show the evidence in the beginning. In trying to make it easier on Linda to go on with her life, all they did was shoot themselves in the foot. History bares fact, sometimes you just can't be the nice guy.

 

[Adventist Dissident]

Have you ever advocated that donors quit paying into 3ABN?

What have you done outside of this fiasco to resolve the problem in your own mind?
example: Calling someone like John Lomacang or someone on the board and speaking to them personally.

What do you see all of this coming to eventually? You are saying you want Danny to come foward and take responsibility for his so called heinous crimes. What if he does that, not that he should do that but lets say he did, what then my friend?

I may be way off base here and If I am I apologize but I have a feeling that if Danny did exactly that you or none of the other folks here would be satisfied. Why do I say that? Because I really don't think that is the ultimate goal of what is going on. I think satan himself is behind this. It's 3ABN that satan is after and he's going after it thru the sorted details of a fallen marriage between Danny and Linda.

God Bless
Jim Larmore

you sound like you work for 3ABN. in fact you saund like Walt Thompson. I know john Lomacang personally and I must say I am really disappointed in John, but not supprised. I don't believe that I have ever advocated with holding money from 3ABN, I could be wrong, although it would not be wrong to do so. I have called for the denomination to have a investigation and to ban all denominational employees from appearing on 3ABN until crediblity has been restored . 3ABN does not have an automatic right to Adventist money and I am not oopposed to with holding money to 3ABN. Espically with the ammount of money they charge for programming. insane.

 

[Adventist Dissident]

Or, Linda saying she is innocent and the victim in all this. Brainwashing can go 2 ways. As far as evidence, they have said quite the opposite. That they do have evidence. The only mistake by 3abn was not to just say it like it was and show the evidence in the beginning. In trying to make it easier on Linda to go on with her life, all they did was shoot themselves in the foot. History bares fact, sometimes you just can't be the nice guy.

Linda has No motive. other then wanting to clear her name. YOu have Not established that linda is even guilty of any crime. YOU just ASSUME SHE IS GUILTY.

 

[Adventist Dissident]

Because I really don't think that is the ultimate goal of what is going on. I think satan himself is behind this. It's 3ABN that satan is after and he's going after it thru the sorted details of a fallen marriage between Danny and Linda.

WHEN ALL ELSE FAIL BLAME SATAN. THERE WAS NO FAILED MARRIAGE. Danny divorced her inorder to save himself from having to face some troubles in his marriage. He abandonded his responsibility

 

[noahswife]

WHEN ALL ELSE FAIL BLAME SATAN.

Not a very original line is it, Ice Dragon? It does not become any more believable with repeating.

 

[Adventist Dissident]

Not a very original line is it, Ice Dragon? It does not become any more believable with repeating.

such arrogance for someone so new.

 

[Jimlarmore]

you sound like you work for 3ABN. in fact you saund like Walt Thompson. I know john Lomacang personally and I must say I am really disappointed in John, but not supprised. I don't believe that I have ever advocated with holding money from 3ABN, I could be wrong, although it would not be wrong to do so. I have called for the denomination to have a investigation and to ban all denominational employees from appearing on 3ABN until crediblity has been restored . 3ABN does not have an automatic right to Adventist money and I am not oopposed to with holding money to #ABN. Espically with the ammount of money they charge for programming. insane.

Thankyou for answering my question sir. Thats all I wanted. Your words speak for themselves. ]


God Bless
Jim Larmore

 

[Adventist Dissident]

Thankyou for answering my question sir. Thats all I wanted. Your words speak for themselves. ]


God Bless
Jim Larmore

and what exactly do my words say to you.

 

[Jimlarmore]

Matt 18:15-17 " But if your brother sins against you, go and reprove him between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not hear take one of two more with you so that on the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may stand. But if he fails to hear them tell it to the church. And if he fails to hear the church let him be to you as the nations and the tax collectors."

My brothers and sisters if you are not following the words of Christ who are you really following?

God Bless
Jim Larmore

 

[Adventist Dissident]

Matt 18:15-17 " But if your brother sins against you, go and reprove him between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not hear take one of two more with you so that on the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may stand. But if he fails to hear them tell it to the church. And if he fails to hear the church let him be to you as the nations and the tax collectors."

My brothers and sisters if you are not following the words of Christ who are you really following?

God Bless
Jim Larmore

If danny would have kept this between himself and Linda we would not be having this problem. but he did not. it looks like danny is guilty of violating the very test you claim.

sush self righteousness
Jesus also said 'that the person who divorces his wife, except for maratial unfaithfulness, comitts adultery. and who ever remarries a divorced person commits adultery. why didn't you quote that one Jimmy.

maybe because it goes against your postion?????

 

[tomatoe]

If danny would have kept this between himself and Linda we would not be having this problem. but he did not. it looks like danny is guilty of violating the very test you claim.

sush self righteousness
Jesus also said 'that the person who divorces his wife, except for maratial unfaithfulness, comitts adultery. and who ever remarries a divorced person commits adultery. why didn't you quote that one Jimmy.

maybe because it goes against your postion?????

It is hard to keep something between the 2 of you when a third party is involved and the relationship threatens to destroy the ministry. Ice, You can make excuses all day long but the truth is (read the emails between them and others) she refused to give up a relationship that was hurting her marriage and the ministry. So simple. She was ask over and over again. The emails from Danny to Linda prove that he was still willing to reconcile months after the divorce, even after she had spent time with her friend at his house, her house and traveling together. Most men would have wrote her off by that time, but he didn't. Unless, there would continue to be 3 in the relationship instead of 2. Whether it has been made public or not there were too many people that knew what she was doing and saw evidence of such. Those people made the decision they made based on the the evidence. Just because you personally haven' seen it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Her actions after the divorce speak volumes. The time they have spent together, alone, traveling alone, and c'mon ice. No man that has a simple platonic relationship with a woman loans or gives a woman 100,000.00 to put on the purchase of a house. Danny knows what when on before and after, you should be praising him for keeping it within a tight circle of those that need to know instead of shouting it from the rooftops like a lot of men would have done.
Ice you would be better off on maritime or bsda where you can all gossip and slander together without much opposition. Think about it. Lies are so much more exciting and dirtier than the truth.

 

[Adventist Dissident]

It is hard to keep something between the 2 of you when a third party is involved and the relatio Ice, You can make excuses all day long

What excuses are you talking about? You make absloutely no sense?

she refused to give up a relationship that was hurting her marriage and the ministry. So simple. She was ask over and over again.

that is the propanganda. notice, you never said exactly what about the relationship was hurting the marriage. He was a counsoler he was giving her son counsel and she was part of the process. The relationship could have been hurt by the fact that family secretes were now being revealed.

The Dr. did in fact state that Danny was the cause of many of the emotional problems LInda's son had. So danny may not have liked that and in that way it was harming the marriage. Danny was going to be exposed. You've come to the wrong place if you thing you are going to just get by with the propaganda you are peadling. I have read every first hand account by every one involved. Danny's side and Linda's side. If i didn't know better I say you were Kay Kuzma or a danny supporter that is close to him. You are quoting word for word what she said and what walt thompson said. It seems Danny's crew is on the offensive now.

The emails from Danny to Linda prove that he was still willing to reconcile months after the divorce, even after she had spent time with her friend at his house, her house and traveling together. Most men would have wrote her off by that time, but he didn't.

the e-mail you speak of prove nothing.

Unless, there would continue to be 3 in the relationship instead of 2. Whether it has been made public or not there were too many people that knew what she was doing and saw evidence of such.

Where are their testiomonies.??

Those people made the decision they made based on the the evidence.

Just because you personally haven' seen it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Just because you say it exist dosen't mean it exists

Her actions after the divorce speak volumes. The time they have spent together, alone, traveling alone, and c'mon ice. No man that has a simple platonic relationship with a woman loans or gives a woman 100,000.00 to put on the purchase of a house.

her actions prove nothing. This is not the Vistorian era an man in the company of a woman does not mean they are having sex. after the Divorce she can do what ever she want's she in not married. BTW this is another kay kuzma line.

It is only natural after being wounded to seek support from those who are you friends. Lindas had her support system ripped out from under her and her frieds turn on her. so she naturally went with those whom were her suporters. So your statmets proves nothing. The purchase of the house is a friend wanting to help, I do believe it was a no intrest loan not a gift. if the DR. was in love with Linda like you say why did he not leave his wife? His wife is no longer living why does he not marry linda now??

Danny knows what when on before and after, you should be praising him for keeping it within a tight circle of those that need to know instead of shouting it from the rooftops like a lot of men would have done.

danny has not kept a tight lip on things. He was in the GC talking about his problems before his divorce poisioning the minds of people against linda. He has used the resources of 3abn to promote his side of the story. About month a go he spent 2 hours on the TV whining about how unfair he has been treated. That is not tight liped. Get your fact s stright before you come here. telling other what to do.

Ice you would be better off on maritime or bsda

Like you, a new person, knows what is best for me. remember you are the new persn here not me.

where you can all gossip and slander together without much opposition.

i don't gossip I deal with facts. You are the one gossiping, you have nothing to back up you story.

Think about it. Lies are so much more exciting and dirtier than the truth

I actually think the truth is more exciting. I guess that is the difference between you me. you like lies and I like the truth.

 

[tomatoe]

What excuses are you talking about? You make absloutely no sense?


that is the propanganda. notice, you never said exactly what about the relationship was hurting the marriage. He was a counsoler he was giving her son counsel and she was part of the process. The relationship could have been hurt by the fact that family secretes were now being revealed.

The Dr. did in fact state that Danny was the cause of many of the emotional problems LInda's son had. So danny may not have liked that and in that way it was harming the marriage. Danny was going to be exposed. You've come to the wrong place if you thing you are going to just get by with the propaganda you are peadling. I have read every first hand account by every one involved. Danny's side and Linda's side. If i didn't know better I say you were Kay Kuzma or a danny supporter that is close to him. You are quoting word for word what she said and what walt thompson said. It seems Danny's crew is on the offensive now.

the e-mail you speak of prove nothing.


Where are their testiomonies.??

Those people made the decision they made based on the the evidence. Just because you say it exist dosen't mean it exists

her actions prove nothing. This is not the Vistorian era an man in the company of a woman does not mean they are having sex. after the Divorce she can do what ever she want's she in not married. BTW this is another kay kuzma line.

It is only natural after being wounded to seek support from those who are you friends. Lindas had her support system ripped out from under her and her frieds turn on her. so she naturally went with those whom were her suporters. So your statmets proves nothing. The purchase of the house is a friend wanting to help, I do believe it was a no intrest loan not a gift. if the DR. was in love with Linda like you say why did he not leave his wife? His wife is no longer living why does he not marry linda now??

danny has not kept a tight lip on things. He was in the GC talking about his problems before his divorce poisioning the minds of people against linda. He has used the resources of 3abn to promote his side of the story. About month a go he spent 2 hours on the TV whining about how unfair he has been treated. That is not tight liped. Get your fact s stright before you come here. telling other what to do.


Like you, a new person, knows what is best for me. remember you are the new persn here not me.
i don't gossip I deal with facts. You are the one gossiping, you have nothing to back up you story. I actually think the truth is more exciting. I guess that is the difference between you me. you like lies and I like the truth.

Just because I am new to post doesn't mean I haven't done my homework for a long time. I have. You are just one of many that think they know what happened. If Danny is whining now as you put it, he has reason to be. We all know the origination of these unsubstianted rumors. You said you don't deal in gossip you deal in fact. Unless you were there to witness what went down between Danny and Linda and Linda and the doctor, how do you know their facts? You don't. You have your opinion and I have mine.