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...nature is garbage? But animalistic behavior such as cutting the head off of someone, ITS OK! (I dont care about the violence, in fact, I loved it, but just pointing out).

Of course you loved it you are a 15 yr old boy.

Seriously though how graphic is it?
 
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Of course you loved it you are a 15 yr old boy.

Seriously though how graphic is it?
Well, most of the blood is clearly computer graphics, but a good portion is slow motion, decapitation (dont know how many times, one for sure though), cutting off of limbs... and yea, GORE GORE GORE
 
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Of course you loved it you are a 15 yr old boy.

Seriously though how graphic is it?

It depends. The violence was visually graphic, but it was extremely stylized and not gritty at all. If you've seen movies like Braveheart, Gladiator, etc, this wasn't any worse than them.

Sounds disgusting! Thanks for the description,I most certainly will not watch this garbage! :sick: :sick: :o

How is it garbage?

Btw, just saw it, GREAT movie, best movie this year so far (Except for Pan's Labyrinth and besides that there hasn't been any real competition yet).

The battle scenes weren't as epic as I was hoping for them to be, but were still really well choreographed and exciting. The use of slow motion was just about perfect, I was afraid it would be too much but it wasn't.

Damn, this movie has some absolutely beautiful scenes, the sex scene especially, was really well done.

I'm probably going to see it again.
 
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lol true, graphic violence is ok, as long as it does not swear nor have sexual content, ha ha, I did not cover my eyes because I was watching nature at work. Even though one time it was rape, still, the other parts is just a couple making love.

I agree. It's ridiculous, what's the big deal with nudity? I never cover my eyes, it's the way we look if you take our clothes off.

Plus, Lena Headey was pleasant to look at. :p

I've been very excited to see this since the trailers came out as well. We have an IMAX nearby but of course those tickets sold out a week in advance, stupid me. But we did get to see it in DLP. Anyways, cinematography wise the movie was beautiful. It will set the bar much higher from now on. It's pretty gory but I think you all knew and expected that. However, my husband and I are in our mid twenties and were ok with the violence. I saw families with young children in our viewing. This is not in any way a movie for young kids to see.

One more thing I want to mention to anyone who hasn't seen it yet - unbeknown to me the film has several scenes of partial female nudity and even one of men. My husband covered his eyes, but still. Those scenes were completely unnecessary and detracted from the movie IMO. Had I known about them beforehand I wouldn't have gone. Wish that Clean Flicks company was still operating. Anyways, just wanted to warn everyone. Besides that it was a very good movie.

I don't think the scenes of nudity were uneccesary at all. Plus, it's not like it was really graphic or anything.
 
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So I suppose that the screenplay for this movie followed the comic book, line-for-line, quote-for-quote.
Of course screenplay writers never adapt original books (comic books) to something more suitable for mass viewing audiences, right?

I have the comic book, it was a very faithful adaptation. Almost frame by frame. Most the lines that are in the comic are in the movie. Yeah there were some things added to it because if they went just on the comic then there wouldn't be enough for the movie. Really the main things that were in the movie that weren't in the comic was that crazy Ogre thing, the Rhino, Leonidas having a son, and Leonidas's wife having a bigger part. Many of the lines that were added in the movie seemed to be more so based off the situations & themes of the comic. Even with those additions, it stays true to the comic in many ways.

Have you actually watched this movie? There were SEVERAL parts where the implied pro-Iraq War propaganda was blatant, and many more where it was more subtle.
I wasn't the only one who noticed: most of the people sitting around me at the theater were snickering and dropping wisecracks about it everytime it happened during the movie.

Yeah I have watched the movie. Twice, and I intend on a third. The only thing is that the bulk of every example that I've heard that is said to be implied pro-Iraq war was something that was already in the comic. So what if you weren't the only one that supposedly noticed pro-Iraq war implications? In the discussions of the movie with the people I went to see it with, I wasn't the only one bashing the people who think there is political meaning in the movie. Really I can see how one would mistake it as pro-Iraq war, but the more the movie goes on the more it seems to be applied to the situation of Persia coming to swallow tiny Greece. By the end of the movie it doesn't parallel anything to our times.

Here's another example of why your analysis was wrong, even though the original story was written prior to the Iraq War: the recent remake of War of the Worlds. As good a movie as it was, I couldn't help feeling a little bit intellectually insulted by the propaganda in that movie. The whole scene where Tom Cruise's son wants to go fight and be a soldier and his dad tries to stop him, and in a suspenseful moment (surrounded by billowing American flags, Humvees, soldiers, and "rockets' red glare"), his son tells him: "Dad, you have to let me go. I want to fight them."

They could have accomplished the same thing by putting an intermission in the movie and airing a "Join the Marine Corps" ad.

By your reasoning though, since War of the Worlds was written in 1898 in England, there is no possiblity that the screenplay writers could inject anything cheesily patriotic into it, right?

I must say that the War of the World's remake didn't really follow the original story very much... it barley did. But it's certainly not the way 300 was done.

Anyways, what I meant was that it followed the comic rather well, there wouldn't be much room to put political agendas into it. My reasoning does not suggest that simply because what it was based on was before the Iraq situation that there couldn't be any inject politics(though I admit that in my original comment that that wouldn't be so clear). I also must add that the director insisted there were no political implications of the movie, not that you'll buy that. Still I've heard plenty of things about this movie suggesting political implications. I've heard it said that Leonidas is George Bush or that Xerxes is George Bush. Really I think both interpretations are just something that people want to believe.
 
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Good film. The fight scenes were well choreographed, the nudity scenes were very tastefully done, and it was the sort of film where I could just turn my brain off for two hours.

Great film, it'll probably make my top 10 list of 2007 films.
 
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The Spartans wore body armor. The movie just wants to beefcake them up, so it left off some of this armor. And, I doubt the real Spartans were anything so muscular. Also, the homosexuality of ancient Greece is greatly exaggerated by liberal historians. They didn't even have same-sex marriage or laws that prohibited discrimination against homosexuals.

Those of you who aren't Christian might not have realized that Xerxes, the leader of the Persians, was later married to Esther, the woman a book of the Bible is named for. So, if you want some quality history of the period, open your Bible.
 
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The Spartans wore body armor. The movie just wants to beefcake them up, so it left off some of this armor. And, I doubt the real Spartans were anything so muscular. Also, the homosexuality of ancient Greece is greatly exaggerated by liberal historians. They didn't even have same-sex marriage or laws that prohibited discrimination against homosexuals.

Those of you who aren't Christian might not have realized that Xerxes, the leader of the Persians, was later married to Esther, the woman a book of the Bible is named for. So, if you want some quality history of the period, open your Bible.

Not neccesarily, there were several kings named Xerxes.

And to look at the bible as 100% accurate, factual history is pretty stupid.
 
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I have the comic book, it was a very faithful adaptation. Almost frame by frame. Most the lines that are in the comic are in the movie. Yeah there were some things added to it because if they went just on the comic then there wouldn't be enough for the movie. Really the main things that were in the movie that weren't in the comic was that crazy Ogre thing, the Rhino, Leonidas having a son, and Leonidas's wife having a bigger part. Many of the lines that were added in the movie seemed to be more so based off the situations & themes of the comic. Even with those additions, it stays true to the comic in many ways.



Yeah I have watched the movie. Twice, and I intend on a third. The only thing is that the bulk of every example that I've heard that is said to be implied pro-Iraq war was something that was already in the comic. So what if you weren't the only one that supposedly noticed pro-Iraq war implications? In the discussions of the movie with the people I went to see it with, I wasn't the only one bashing the people who think there is political meaning in the movie. Really I can see how one would mistake it as pro-Iraq war, but the more the movie goes on the more it seems to be applied to the situation of Persia coming to swallow tiny Greece. By the end of the movie it doesn't parallel anything to our times.



I must say that the War of the World's remake didn't really follow the original story very much... it barley did. But it's certainly not the way 300 was done.

Anyways, what I meant was that it followed the comic rather well, there wouldn't be much room to put political agendas into it. My reasoning does not suggest that simply because what it was based on was before the Iraq situation that there couldn't be any inject politics(though I admit that in my original comment that that wouldn't be so clear). I also must add that the director insisted there were no political implications of the movie, not that you'll buy that. Still I've heard plenty of things about this movie suggesting political implications. I've heard it said that Leonidas is George Bush or that Xerxes is George Bush. Really I think both interpretations are just something that people want to believe.

If any political connection could possibly be made, I would say it's anti-Iraq war more than anything. A larger nation led by a tyrant trying to swallow up a smaller one.
 
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And to look at the bible as 100% accurate, factual history is pretty stupid.

I'm not sure of what your point is? Do you mean the Bible is wrong about Xerxes being a king of Persia? Or, do you mean that the history in the movie 300 more reliable history than the history in the book of Esther? Is 300 100% accurate?
 
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I'm not sure of what your point is? Do you mean the Bible is wrong about Xerxes being a king of Persia? Or, do you mean that the history in the movie 300 more reliable history than the history in the book of Esther? Is 300 100% accurate?

As I said before, there were several Persian kings named Xerxes. So once again, the king that led the Persians against the Spartans was not neccesarily the one that married Esther.
 
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If any political connection could possibly be made, I would say it's anti-Iraq war more than anything. A larger nation led by a tyrant trying to swallow up a smaller one.

I've heard that idea has been made before. Although that specifically was in comic before the recent Iraq situation ever started, and that seems to be how it happened historically. Persia was massive and Xerxes wanted to expand his Empire into Europe, thats one of the few historical accuracies 300 has. But until something else comes up I think it's just a coincidence that any political connections could be made.
 
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I've heard that idea has been made before. Although that specifically was in comic before the recent Iraq situation ever started, and that seems to be how it happened historically. Persia was massive and Xerxes wanted to expand his Empire into Europe, thats one of the few historical accuracies 300 has. But until something else comes up I think it's just a coincidence that any political connections could be made.

I agree, I think any connections are pure coincidence.

You could argue and say Braveheart has a political agenda as well. Or pretty much any war movie.
 
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I agree, I think any connections are pure coincidence.
Very possible. They may just be coincidences. No way to prove either way, except to interview the director and ensure he isn't playing it safe or lying when he answers.

You could argue and say Braveheart has a political agenda as well. Or pretty much any war movie.
Very true. But one must also consider the current political climate to really begin to speculate.
 
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I went to see it yesterday! Its sooooo awesome! I really enjoyed it! I really liked the Oracle Girl Dance, it looked like she was dancing in water!

She was. They filmed her underwater and removed the water digitally.
 
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