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According to scripture,Trump doesn't abandon the antichrist king of Israel the Jews have chosen after rejecting Christ .
Trump does about all he can to help apostate king of Israel.

He fails to keep his promise to save Israel though and they are overrun by their enemies.
This post is filled with false predictions and flaming accusations, in my opinion.
 
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Netanyahu is king of Babylon.

Same Babylon responsible for ALL the righteous blood shed upon earth

Mathew 23:35
And so upon you will come ALL the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.

Revelation 18
In her was found the blood of prophets and of God’s holy people, of all who have been slaughtered on the earth.”



That is who you have been supporting for Jesus .
In my opinion, it is impossible for Netanyahu to be the king of Babylon. In my opinion, that is a ridiculous thing to say.
 
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In my opinion, it is impossible for Netanyahu to be the king of Babylon. In my opinion, that is a ridiculous thing to say.
And Benjamin netanyahu would think it's rediculous to say Jesus is king of Israel.

Let's see if you can answer this.

According to Isaiah 13,on the day of the Lord the Medes(Iranians)are in Babylon ransacking the houses and raping the women

According to Zech 14,all nations are in Jerusalem on the day of the Lord ransacking the houses and raping the women.

Now you tell me,If all the nations attack Jerusalem on the day of the Lord ransacking the houses and raping the women as the word of God says,then How could the Iranians be in any other city ransacking the houses and raping the women ,when the word of God says all nations are in Jerusalem doing that?

Isaiah 13

16 Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes;
their houses will be looted and their wives violated.
17 See, I will stir up against them the Medes,
who do not care for silver
and have no delight in gold.

Zech 14

2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped.



Which prophet of God are you accusing of being wrong?
The only way both prophets could be right is if earthy jerusalem is called Babylon by the prophet Isaiah.
 
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And Benjamin netanyahu would think it's rediculous to say Jesus is king of Israel.

Let's see if you can answer this.

According to Isaiah 13,on the day of the Lord the Medes(Iranians)are in Babylon ransacking the houses and raping the women

According to Zech 14,all nations are in Jerusalem on the day of the Lord ransacking the houses and raping the women.

Now you tell me,If all the nations attack Jerusalem on the day of the Lord ransacking the houses and raping the women as the word of God says,then How could the Iranians be in any other city ransacking the houses and raping the women ,when the word of God says all nations are in Jerusalem doing that?

Isaiah 13

16 Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes;
their houses will be looted and their wives violated.
17 See, I will stir up against them the Medes,
who do not care for silver
and have no delight in gold.

Zech 14

2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped.



Which prophet of God are you accusing of being wrong?
The only way both prophets could be right is if earthy jerusalem is called Babylon by the prophet Isaiah.
LOL
I am not accusing any of the prophets of my Lord God and my Savior the Lord Jesus Christ. You are flaming me with an insult with your accusations there. However, what I am saying is that your interpretation of prophecies in Isaiah 13 and Zechariah 14 is incorrect.
 
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I am not accusing any of the prophets of my Lord God and my Savior the Lord Jesus Christ. You are flaming me with an insult with your accusations there. However, what I am saying is that your interpretation of prophecies in Isaiah 13 and Zechariah 14 is incorrect.

I quoted the prophecies about Jerusalem and Babylon.
This is not an interpretation of mine.
This is the word of God .


Babylon

Isaiah 13

16 Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes;
their houses will be looted and their wives violated.
17 See, I will stir up against them the Medes,
who do not care for silver
and have no delight in gold.


Jerusalem

Zech 14

2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped.
 
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I quoted the prophecies about Jerusalem and Babylon.
This is not an interpretation of mine.
This is the word of God .


Babylon

Isaiah 13

16 Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes;
their houses will be looted and their wives violated.
17 See, I will stir up against them the Medes,
who do not care for silver
and have no delight in gold.


Jerusalem

Zech 14

2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped.
You are interpreting prophecy. Your interpretation is incorrect. However, I know that you will never ever change your mind about your interpretations of prophecy.
 
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You are interpreting prophecy. Your interpretation is incorrect. However, I know that you will never ever change your mind about your interpretations of prophecy
False


These two verses are quotes from the Bible.
I copied and pasted them.They are not my personal.intetpretations..


Babylon

Isaiah 13

16 Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes;
their houses will be looted and their wives violated.
17 See, I will stir up against them the Medes,
who do not care for silver
and have no delight in gold.


Jerusalem

Zech 14

2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped.



According to both prophets,these events take place on the day of the Lord.You can read the chapters for yourself if you don't believe me.
 
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These two verses are quotes from the Bible.
I copied and pasted them.They are not my personal.intetpretations..


Babylon

Isaiah 13

16 Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes;
their houses will be looted and their wives violated.
17 See, I will stir up against them the Medes,
who do not care for silver
and have no delight in gold.


Jerusalem

Zech 14

2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped.



According to both prophets,these events take place on the day of the Lord.You can read the chapters for yourself if you don't believe me.
I have read the verses and the entire chapters. However, you are interpreting them with the understanding that the Day of the Lord is happening within the next year or so. But, we really don't know what years that the Day of the Lord shall begin. The Scriptures don't give prophecy that is specific enough to say in what decade the 7 Year Tribulations Period will begin.
 
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I have read the verses and the entire chapters. However, you are interpreting them with the understanding that the Day of the Lord is happening within the next year or so. But, we really don't know what years that the Day of the Lord shall begin. The Scriptures don't give prophecy that is specific enough to say in what decade the 7 Year Tribulations Period will begin.
Don't false accuse me.
I have not said the day of the Lord is happening within the next year.Dont put words in my mouth when I have not said them.

And for your information.There is no 7 year tribulation.The saints in Israel are persecuted for 42 months.Not 7 years


Revelation 13
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.


Daniel 7
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.


Daniel 12
7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.



And anyone who has been paying attention to the prophecies concerning the United States presidents and the Israeli government would know what decade the persecution begins and ends.Amyone who has not been paying attention would not know.
Them who do not watch are like the people in Noah's day who were oblivious to the flood coming to take them away.That is why Jesus warned everyone to watch.Everyone.
 
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And anyone who has been paying attention to the prophecies concerning the United States presidents and the Israeli government would know what decade the persecution begins and ends.Amyone who has not been paying attention would not know.
Them who do not watch are like the people in Noah's day who were oblivious to the flood coming to take them away.That is why Jesus warned everyone to watch.Everyone.

The United States is actually never once mentioned in prophecy. To get to the shores of the United States you have to see symbolism in Scripture and extrapolate.

The United States there is no doubt is two things right now, in a potential 'end of empire' moment, fighting to survive, and is also a nation in judgement for sin.

The Bible tells us signs of judgement and we have fit those signs for a generation now.

That doesn't actually mean much prophetically. There's been a lot of empires rise and fall and they ALL follow a specific pattern, it's a pattern that Scripture often speaks of, and one that yes, I think we can learn from.

But there's never been a moment on earth Christian's weren't persecuted for the last 2,000 years, somewhere.

Right now Christians are persecuted all over the world, right now all over the world countries rise and fall upon the head of their own choices. Right now we have a red/green axis that is among the most dangerous thing Christians have ever faced the world over.

But we don't know God is done with us as a human race yet. We don't know that America won't repent and become something better than she's been...

We don't know the future, or what the future holds for us.

We don't operate our daily life on future maybes, we operate our lives according to living our lives as God ordered and ordained - no matter what the world throws at us.

Then, it doesn't matter if Jesus comes back this afternoon or in another thousand years. This life is about getting to know Him and living as He wants His people to live.

If people are genuinely promoting bad things somewhere, then we stand against the evil and promote the good. But we honestly don't decide we know exactly how the future is going to play out, because quite frankly God Himself might have other plans.

We should concern ourselves with the fact every day is the end of the world for someone, for many someone's, and God gave us a job to do until His return, and it's to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

We are inviting everyone to the wedding party. Gathering them from the streets, and making sure they are dressed in the Kings clothes that He gave us to wear.

Not pretending we know what the future holds.
 
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The United States is actually never once mentioned in prophecy. To get to the shores of the United States you have to see symbolism in Scripture and extrapolate.

The United States there is no doubt is two things right now, in a potential 'end of empire' moment, fighting to survive, and is also a nation in judgement for sin.

The Bible tells us signs of judgement and we have fit those signs for a generation now.

That doesn't actually mean much prophetically. There's been a lot of empires rise and fall and they ALL follow a specific pattern, it's a pattern that Scripture often speaks of, and one that yes, I think we can learn from.

But there's never been a moment on earth Christian's weren't persecuted for the last 2,000 years, somewhere.

Right now Christians are persecuted all over the world, right now all over the world countries rise and fall upon the head of their own choices. Right now we have a red/green axis that is among the most dangerous thing Christians have ever faced the world over.

But we don't know God is done with us as a human race yet. We don't know that America won't repent and become something better than she's been...

We don't know the future, or what the future holds for us.

We don't operate our daily life on future maybes, we operate our lives according to living our lives as God ordered and ordained - no matter what the world throws at us.

Then, it doesn't matter if Jesus comes back this afternoon or in another thousand years. This life is about getting to know Him and living as He wants His people to live.

If people are genuinely promoting bad things somewhere, then we stand against the evil and promote the good. But we honestly don't decide we know exactly how the future is going to play out, because quite frankly God Himself might have other plans.
No.no symbolism of the US.

Just prophecies which have already been fulfilled by Reagan,Bush ,Bush ,Obama and Trump.

Trump still has things to accomplish.
 
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No.no symbolism of the US.

Just prophecies which have already been fulfilled by Reagan,Bush ,Bush ,Obama and Trump.

Trump still has things to accomplish.
LoL what prophecies have been fulfilled by USA presidents????
 
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Don't false accuse me.
I have not said the day of the Lord is happening within the next year.Dont put words in my mouth when I have not said them.

And for your information.There is no 7 year tribulation.The saints in Israel are persecuted for 42 months.Not 7 years


Revelation 13
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.


Daniel 7
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.


Daniel 12
7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.



And anyone who has been paying attention to the prophecies concerning the United States presidents and the Israeli government would know what decade the persecution begins and ends.Amyone who has not been paying attention would not know.
Them who do not watch are like the people in Noah's day who were oblivious to the flood coming to take them away.That is why Jesus warned everyone to watch.Everyone.
The tribulation is a future seven-year period when God will finish His discipline of Israel and finalize His judgment of the unbelieving world. The church, comprised of all who have trusted in the person and work of the Lord Jesus, will not be present during the tribulation. The church will be removed from the earth in an event called the rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13–18; 1 Corinthians 15:51–53). In this way, the church is saved from the wrath to come (1 Thessalonians 5:9).
Throughout Scripture, the tribulation is associated with the day of the Lord, that time during which God personally intervenes in history to accomplish His plan (see Isaiah 2:12; 13:6–9; Joel 1:15; 2:1–31; 3:14; 1 Thessalonians 5:2). It is referred to as “tribulation . . . in the latter days” (Deuteronomy 4:30, ESV); the great tribulation, which refers to the more intense second half of the seven-year period (Matthew 24:21); “a time of distress” (Daniel 12:1); and “the time of Jacob’s trouble” (Jeremiah 30:7, NKJV). And we have this description of the tribulation that attends the day of the Lord:

“That day will be a day of wrath— a day of distress and anguish, a day of trouble and ruin, a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and blackness— a day of trumpet and battle cry” (Zephaniah 1:15–16).
The tribulation will be marked by various divine judgments, celestial disturbances, natural disasters, and terrible plagues (see Revelation 6—16). In His mercy, God sets a limit on the duration of the tribulation. As Jesus said, “Those will be days of distress unequaled from the beginning, when God created the world, until now—and never to be equaled again. If the Lord had not cut short those days, no one would survive” (Mark 13:19–20).

Daniel 9:24–27 reveals the purpose and time of the tribulation. This passage speaks of 70 weeks that have been declared against “your people.” Daniel’s people are the Jews, the nation of Israel, and Daniel 9:24 speaks of a period of time in which God’s purpose is “to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy.” God declares that “seventy sevens” will fulfill all these things. The “sevens” are groups of years, so 70 sevens is 490 years. (Some translations refer to 70 “weeks” of years.)

In Daniel 9:25 and 26, the Messiah will be cut off after “seven sevens and sixty-two sevens” (69 total sevens), beginning with the decree to rebuild Jerusalem. In other words, 69 sevens (483 years) after the decree to rebuild is issued, the Messiah will die. Biblical historians confirm that 483 years passed from the time of the decree to rebuild Jerusalem to the time when Jesus was crucified. Most Christian scholars, regardless of their view of eschatology, have the above understanding of Daniel’s 70 sevens.

God said that 70 weeks had been determined (490 years), but, with the death of the Messiah, we only have 69 weeks accounted for (483 years). This leaves one seven-year period to be fulfilled “to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy” (Daniel 9:24). This final seven-year period is what we call the tribulation—the time when God finishes judging Israel and brings them back to Himself.

Daniel 9:27 gives a few highlights of the final week, the seven-year tribulation period: “[A ruler] will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.” Jesus refers to this passage in Matthew 24:15. The ruler who confirms the covenant and then sets up the abomination is called “the beast” in Revelation 13. According to Daniel 9:27, the beast’s covenant will be for seven years, but in the middle of this week (3 ½ years into the tribulation), the beast will break the covenant, putting a stop to the Jewish sacrifices. Revelation 13 explains that the beast will place an image of himself in the temple and require the world to worship him. Revelation 13:5 says that this will go on for 42 months, which is 3 ½ years (the second half of the tribulation). So, we see a covenant lasting to the middle of the “week” (Daniel 9:27) and the beast who made the covenant demanding worship for 42 months (Revelation 13:5). Therefore, the total length of time is 84 months or seven years.

We also have a reference to the last half of the tribulation in Daniel 7:25. There, the ruler will oppress God’s people for “a time, times, and half a time” (time=1 year; times=2 years; half a time=½ year; total of 3 ½ years). This time of oppression against the Jews is also described in Revelation 13:5–7 and is part of the “great tribulation,” the latter half of the seven-year tribulation when the beast, or the Antichrist, will be in power.

A further reference to the timing of events in the tribulation is found in Revelation 11:2–3, which speaks of 1,260 days and 42 months (both equaling 3 ½ years, using the “prophetic year” of 360 days). Also, Daniel 12:11–12 speaks of 1,290 days and 1,335 days from the midpoint of the tribulation. The additional days in Daniel 12 may include time after the tribulation for the judgment of the nations (Matthew 25:31–46) and time for the setting up of Christ’s millennial kingdom (Revelation 20:4–6).

In summary, the tribulation is the seven-year period in the end times in which humanity’s decadence and depravity will reach its fullness, with God judging accordingly. Also during that time, Israel will repent of their sin and receive Jesus as their Messiah, setting up a time of great blessing and restoration (Zephaniah 3:9–20; Isaiah 12; 35).
 
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The tribulation is a future seven-year period when God will finish His discipline of Israel and finalize His judgment of the unbelieving world. The church, comprised of all who have trusted in the person and work of the Lord Jesus, will not be present during the tribulation. The church will be removed from the earth in an event called the rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13–18; 1 Corinthians 15:51–53). In this way, the church is saved from the wrath to come (1 Thessalonians 5:9).
Throughout Scripture, the tribulation is associated with the day of the Lord, that time during which God personally intervenes in history to accomplish His plan (see Isaiah 2:12; 13:6–9; Joel 1:15; 2:1–31; 3:14; 1 Thessalonians 5:2). It is referred to as “tribulation . . . in the latter days” (Deuteronomy 4:30, ESV); the great tribulation, which refers to the more intense second half of the seven-year period (Matthew 24:21); “a time of distress” (Daniel 12:1); and “the time of Jacob’s trouble” (Jeremiah 30:7, NKJV). And we have this description of the tribulation that attends the day of the Lord:

“That day will be a day of wrath— a day of distress and anguish, a day of trouble and ruin, a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and blackness— a day of trumpet and battle cry” (Zephaniah 1:15–16).
The tribulation will be marked by various divine judgments, celestial disturbances, natural disasters, and terrible plagues (see Revelation 6—16). In His mercy, God sets a limit on the duration of the tribulation. As Jesus said, “Those will be days of distress unequaled from the beginning, when God created the world, until now—and never to be equaled again. If the Lord had not cut short those days, no one would survive” (Mark 13:19–20).

Daniel 9:24–27 reveals the purpose and time of the tribulation. This passage speaks of 70 weeks that have been declared against “your people.” Daniel’s people are the Jews, the nation of Israel, and Daniel 9:24 speaks of a period of time in which God’s purpose is “to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy.” God declares that “seventy sevens” will fulfill all these things. The “sevens” are groups of years, so 70 sevens is 490 years. (Some translations refer to 70 “weeks” of years.)

In Daniel 9:25 and 26, the Messiah will be cut off after “seven sevens and sixty-two sevens” (69 total sevens), beginning with the decree to rebuild Jerusalem. In other words, 69 sevens (483 years) after the decree to rebuild is issued, the Messiah will die. Biblical historians confirm that 483 years passed from the time of the decree to rebuild Jerusalem to the time when Jesus was crucified. Most Christian scholars, regardless of their view of eschatology, have the above understanding of Daniel’s 70 sevens.

God said that 70 weeks had been determined (490 years), but, with the death of the Messiah, we only have 69 weeks accounted for (483 years). This leaves one seven-year period to be fulfilled “to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy” (Daniel 9:24). This final seven-year period is what we call the tribulation—the time when God finishes judging Israel and brings them back to Himself.

Daniel 9:27 gives a few highlights of the final week, the seven-year tribulation period: “[A ruler] will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.” Jesus refers to this passage in Matthew 24:15. The ruler who confirms the covenant and then sets up the abomination is called “the beast” in Revelation 13. According to Daniel 9:27, the beast’s covenant will be for seven years, but in the middle of this week (3 ½ years into the tribulation), the beast will break the covenant, putting a stop to the Jewish sacrifices. Revelation 13 explains that the beast will place an image of himself in the temple and require the world to worship him. Revelation 13:5 says that this will go on for 42 months, which is 3 ½ years (the second half of the tribulation). So, we see a covenant lasting to the middle of the “week” (Daniel 9:27) and the beast who made the covenant demanding worship for 42 months (Revelation 13:5). Therefore, the total length of time is 84 months or seven years.

We also have a reference to the last half of the tribulation in Daniel 7:25. There, the ruler will oppress God’s people for “a time, times, and half a time” (time=1 year; times=2 years; half a time=½ year; total of 3 ½ years). This time of oppression against the Jews is also described in Revelation 13:5–7 and is part of the “great tribulation,” the latter half of the seven-year tribulation when the beast, or the Antichrist, will be in power.

A further reference to the timing of events in the tribulation is found in Revelation 11:2–3, which speaks of 1,260 days and 42 months (both equaling 3 ½ years, using the “prophetic year” of 360 days). Also, Daniel 12:11–12 speaks of 1,290 days and 1,335 days from the midpoint of the tribulation. The additional days in Daniel 12 may include time after the tribulation for the judgment of the nations (Matthew 25:31–46) and time for the setting up of Christ’s millennial kingdom (Revelation 20:4–6).

In summary, the tribulation is the seven-year period in the end times in which humanity’s decadence and depravity will reach its fullness, with God judging accordingly. Also during that time, Israel will repent of their sin and receive Jesus as their Messiah, setting up a time of great blessing and restoration (Zephaniah 3:9–20; Isaiah 12; 35).
So you believe the saints who trust and follow the lamb are not persecuted?
Really?

Is that what Jesus tells his followers in the gospel?
 
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So you believe the saints who trust and follow the lamb are not persecuted?
Really?

Is that what Jesus tells his followers in the gospel?
When Jesus said that we are going to be persecuted, His prophecy began to be fulfilled right there in the early New Testament church soon after Christ ascended into Heaven. Afterwards, throughout the centuries, there are countless examples of the persecution of Christians because of their faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
 
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