selwyn said:
Sanaa. The problem with you hindus here is that you all seem to have an opinion that you are all too smart than everyone else here.
there is no need of angry words here . this is nothing about "acting smart" . u urself said in ur earlier posts that you dont know much about hinduism . then by what authority are you dismissing our arguments when u have little knowledge about the nature and nuances of the religion . half baked knowledge is worse than no knowledge
You guys tend to use subtle words so that you always can convey exactly opposite meanings according to the question that is asked. And you also kind of imply that your scriptures imply that all the time. But please don't forget that there is something called honesty and truth in this world. You can end up deceiving the entire world through your defensive arguments like these but before doing that you would have already deceived yourself in that process.
i dont know where all this is coming from . barely do we finish talking about one point , before u make a big mess by talking about some other point that is not even related to the topic . if u want to talk about who said what in x , y , z thread also keep in mind the context and nature of the thread and the nature of the post . all i see is allegations from u rather than any refutations to the content of my post
You might be remembering that I was saying during my discussion that hinduism can mean "anything and everything" to anyone and everyone". Atleast some of you strongly claimed that is not the case and now all that you and Ram have done is just demonstrated what I have said earlier.
i dont understand why we have to talk about everything at the same time .
its really confusing . like i said please stick to 1 topic and dont bring up what happened in x,y,z thread when we dont have the context and nature of the discussion . how do u expect me to respond to ur allegations when this whole post just looks like a rant . there is nothing concrete to respond to .
Ram and i have clarified and explained our posts and if u have to say something about the contents please do so rather than ranting on.
And you guys are talking about logic here. From what you all have talked here about your religion, I am kind of bothered now that even the very little respect that I had for this religion will fall apart.
thats too bad
You are talking about atheistic schools of thought here?!!! I remember once asking here if a true hindu need not even worship any God as I have heard from a similar school of thought. Someone strongly refused and said that it is not true. And now, it is becoming true and tomorrow, who will know what else will become true.
there are different schools of thoughts and sects in hinduism . like i said hinduism is not a homogenous unit of beliefs . all hindus themselves are at different spiritual stages . obviously there is something called orthodox thought and beliefs that are widely accepted . i believe it was clarified that the atheistic school of thought was defeated in the debates and is unorthodox
What you guys are saying here about hindu philosophy is something like this. When you say a statement like, "You are stretching my argument too far" I should also understand the same statement as also implying that "Oh no! you are not at all stretching my argument, You have understood it welland also several other varied meanings as can be applied according to the convenience of one who says it. ?
listen , what are u going on about ?!!!
please dont words in my mouth.
in our earlier discussion i said one incident amused me , ur the one who implied everything amuses me and that am here for amusement .
i have never said anything like "ur stretching my argument too far"
As much as I see this, the whole of hindu philosophy now after reading all you and Ram talked about here seems to be nothing more than a well organized strategy of inclusive deception. Sorry. I will not buy this any more. If this is the deeper knowledge that you are talking about here, then let me say, no thanks.
hinduism is one of the oldest religions in the world and still going strong . i believe u greatly misunderstand it
Before talking about hinduism here, I wish you guys would please go and learn the meaning of honesty or the meaning of logic or even the meaning of a debate. Sorry to say that. You simply cannot say that we believe in a God and that we also don't believe in a God and get away with that logically
first i never said "we dont believe in God" . i said there are atheistic schools of thought too . u are mixing up and manipulating what am saying . are they not different schools of thoughtin christianity . some believe in free will . some dont etc . hinduism can be monotheistic , polytheistic and pantheistic depending on the spiritual stage and needs of the individual . but in the end the truest , deepest and most correct would be monotheistic worship of Vishnu . but if a hindu wants to worship in another way there is no restriction
and ur the one who needs to learn about honesty after gravely misrepresenting me . u have accused me of contradictions where there are none . examples
i said -yes there is a risk
later i said - the risk is minor
then u accused me of contradictions and changing my position . when i never said in the first place that the risk is major .
then in another thread i said - higher spiritual beings dont give into ego and desires
too much
later i said - noone has ever said that higher beings cannot ever take a step back in their spiritual journey.
again u accused me of a contradiction when i never stated that higher beings always move forward in their spritual quest or are incapable of ever doing anything wrong . u have a habit of misrepresenting me until i spell everything out
in other incidents u have put words in my mouth and accused me of being amused at everything .
and ur the one who needs to learn how to debate , this whole post of urs is a mix mash and misrepresentation of what has taken place earlier . ur referring to one line that was said in different unconnected threads and pulling things out of thin air .
i request u to stop ranting and if ur in confusion to ask some concrete questions
